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rigimarq wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:19 am Just apply for a new one and throw the old card in the bin

Then all they have to do is create 28days of history before going out the first time

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Write a short letter to explain what happened and take it with you for the next assessment, it will show you’ve thought about what happened and why.
Sometimes telling the story can make it sound worse than it was

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If you’ve seen all those posts of drivers getting an HGV licence then wander around looking for a job almost no one wants to give you? Now think TM CPC and looking at an even smaller number of potential employers!
Mist drivers have never run their own business, so going RTM is an even bigger leap ...

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Can you imagine the adverse impact on so many industries, not least the current operators. How many yards have a company big-boy 4x4 (goods veh over 2.5t GVW), how many office staff excuse a ‘van’ as a run around or a perk (many are hoods veh over 2.5t GVW), mechanic or runaround transits/sprinters ...

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hallpro wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:44 pm Put in slot 2 if it's local

I trust this is joking? Why in slot 2 coz it’s in scope and why would bring “local” make a difference?

For a normal driver it’s wholly in scope.

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I’ll buck the trend, experience can have some influence but not as much as some of the posts postulate. No make how long and varied the TM is (experienced), working for owner driver than can do little different to the newbie.
And in a larger environment, their enthusiasm and open to ideas could be a ...

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LLennovi wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:29 pm
iantelle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:28 pm
LLennovi wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:28 pm

14 days.
Not according to GTMR and TC’s.
"The emphasis on the 14 days prior to PMI is that does not come into play until April

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Daview710 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:56 am
CsabaExpert wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:56 am In case you are caught, it is a problem indeed.
like what? Public enquiry, then what? Revoke licence or level x fine?

DVSA could prosecute which gets a fine, but their easy option is go to PI. OTC cannot impose a fine but can impact the licence which is an indirect financial impact

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Now the curve ball. The OP mentioned a "2 door" towing a trailer. Not sure whether this post is to test everyone, but of course a "2 door " 4x4 is not a dual purpose vehicle as defined by construction and use regs as its likely to have only ONE passenger seat whereas the exemption from Operators ...

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LAWTERIX wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:09 pm Hi all, what’s your opinion on front re-cut tyres being fitted to your HGV vehicles.

Seems so many replies are referring to re-tread rather than re-cut. Bet on reflection many would change their answers to yes as well as say it legal.

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N/s front indicator missing, looks like n/s sensor missing, sharp edges.
Think like a TM. Three days after the incident, with the veh in the same condition, would you be happy to drive into a DVSA check like that? Chances are, seeing the veh in that condition 3 days after an incident would lead to ...

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it's a coach for starters and it needed a front screen and a new bumper (and bumper supports/subframe needed work I believe)
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On the damage noted and not beyond the PMI date then no early PMI required.
If we follow the logic of the ‘must be PMI’d’ or ‘myst PMI after any VOR’ then we’d ...

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It’s almost an eternal circle. There are two certainties though - legally, if you want to drive you have to do it and secondly, there’s no legislation to say employers have to pay, if they do it’s a perk. I’m amazed HMRC don’t charge drivers for benefits in kind

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As part of your investigation besides looking at the driver, review who was holding your position in your absence - 10hrs doesn’t suddenly happen, it’s rarely a surprise to at least one person in the office. Take a breath and deal with it logically. Leaping to conclusions can often lead to bad ...

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Kurisure wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:29 pm As a company owner the trucks are my trucks and I have the right to look at what is going on in my truck and the drivers work space. It is legal and if the drivers cover them up then they have something to hide and I would not want them working for me.

Spot on.

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It’s about safety and overall risk, usually the purpose include periodic dip damping ( not usually called random sampling) and more than just after an incident and as long as the purposes are recorded then it’s legit.
The key bit is there must be control over who gets to use it and make sure it’s ...

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If you don’t already have it, get the TM CPC. As an OD, it would be your licence and you would be responsible so silly not to.

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Obviously need a bit more info, but on the brief info, looks like you’re right for VSO.

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What does the contract say? You should be looking NOW first replacemen. Yes you can but you need to keep both the current TM and OTC updated in your changeover plan.
Can we assume you have no conditions / undertakings. Consider getting a consultant in for the transition. t

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Good evening everybody, Could you let me know how to check commercial mechanic licence. I had 2 providers - 2 of them fail our MOT.

You make an appointment, walk into their office and ask questions to decide if they can do what you need.
They bc will be certified for somethings and not for ...

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There are loads about, some easier to tweak to your needs and most offer free trials. Really depends on what size and quirks the fleet has. Probably easier to ring round and trial them

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This journey type is only out of scope under exemption, if the driver has never (ever) carried goods or passengers in the course of their employment with that operator, otherwise (or, after the first time they do carry goods or passengers) it is in scope of 561/2006 (as amended).

New one on ...

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I got caught once as I was a trade plate driver the vehicle I picked up had a new engine putting and the Old engine was in the back of the Luton van and the police still charge me me by carrying so my insurance was void so I would look into it more or as you might get done 4 carrying even though ...

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If you’re worried the veh might get impounded, and it not something DVSA do lightly, then you’re already with a dodgy operator and may have wanted to check further with the operator (assume this is an old post due to
Number of replies)

But otherwise, record if disc presences part of walktoubd ...

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Ask the TM, it’s a statutory requirement to notify if they were an employee at the time. Regardless of it happening at work or not.
What investigation was done etc. just coz they left or DVLA (not DVSA) knows it doesn’t avoid the obligation by the operator

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Probably controversial, but rarely are these collisions down to just one of the drivers, often the others involved could or even should have done something to help avoid it happening.
Whether it’s car or truck driver, chances are the same can be said in both directions- the difference is those who ...

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. Has a degree then managed to gain quite specific experience and all for £26k.

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Hello, I'm new here. On December 3rd I had my TM exam. I hope the result will be positive. I'm writing to ask experienced Transport Managers what programs they use that are effective in this job and which ones I could try. Where can I check PMI and MOT. And general advice on how to start and what ...

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At a recent freight council meeting I attended, Kevin Rooney was there. He stated that he and the other TC's think the current course is not fit for purpose. They are working on restructuring the course so it is more operational based and tailored towards issues, that if followed will prevent you ...

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So what’s wrong with using dashcam to prove the diversion?

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Does your company do international work?

No its Morrisons Supermarket.

He's misinterpreted the change in regulations then! For now, and the foreseeable future, it's still 28 days on UK domestic operators!

RHA got it wrong, but DVSA have only just, that’s to say @ 10 days from ...

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It's illegal to drive without one in date mate. Therefore the company employing him there insurance maybe invalid while he's driving.

Not technically true. It's only illegal if he's carrying goods. If he's just moving empty trailers or units for service or even workshop related work a cpc is ...

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Remember long ago when doing the TMCPC, employment law - that’s part of the TM role in support of the operator to be compliant. It’s so amazing how folks thing those parts of the course /exam don’t apply to them 🙈and even if it’s not directly the TM’s role at the company coz they have an HR dept, it ...

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I have been self employed for past 30 years with no problems but I have around 25 different customers who I invoice monthly
I believe what tc s are meaning is people who declare themselves self employed but would only be working for you and hold no tmcpc but using yours - same applies on Ltd / big ...

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Traffic Commissioner decisions

The stuff about HMRC is an old idea. The reality is it’s contrary to the regs, and exposes the s/e driver to other risks such as insurances and if things go wrong, expect t the operator to try and shard the costs/blame with you 😂
As the licence holder, Joe can you ...

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If the OP is the licence holder then it’s a real surprise, if they’re nit, then it doesn’t really matter

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martinsor wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 11:12 pm
Vessey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 10:59 pm Thank you for you respond back / But to do a PMI they should be qualify for the job, or it is not right?
yes they should had certificate as a proof they a qualify do PMI

What certificate would you expect t them to have? So are you saying an apprentice can’t work on any vehicles?

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No, but that doesn’t mean you can exceed your authorisation

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Rollwayer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:44 pm DVSA to confirm and publish their interpretation within the next two weeks.

Within two weeks of what date?

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Ok, our skip hire company who has their own dedicated recycling plant and they ONLY take their loads to their own recycling plant can be restricted as it is seen as their goods. If the skip hire takes the waste to another company’s recycling site or another end user then it’s seen as basic carriage ...

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Depends where you are located and how much trouble you are 🙂

trouble?? In notts.

Means if you listen and do what is right, stay compliant etc then your TM may be cheaper than if you are a right pain in the arse, don't listen and argue with everything they tell you to do. You're more than ...

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Critical date is when you sorn old one - month of tax. Although in the scheme of things it’s not a lot.
But if you put private plate on new one, you could double jeopardy ( both taxed for full month but only use for a few weeks for example

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I just cannot understand why ETM do fixed rate!
His do they deal with the fixed rate when something happens requiring more time, more visits, more paperwork and more grief …. All for a bargain fixed rate.
It’s just a poor business model.

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I just cannot understand why ETM do fixed rate!
His do they deal with the fixed rate when something happens requiring more time, more visits, more paperwork and more grief …. All for a bargain fixed rate.

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I’m freight forwarder, not real driver but always have a chance to speak to these drivers. They work extremely hard I promise. 10-15 hours a day. I live with 2 drivers as Ltd, no holidays no sick pay 😞

HMRC are cracking down on LTD drivers.

yeah of course they are been same shit spoke ...

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Thanks for all the replies that clarify s things but does anyone have a link to a specific piece of legislation that backs that up?

It’s in the O licence regulations.
Just remember if you’ve got 2 trls on the licence and 20 in the yard, unless they are VOR they are all available for a DVSA ...

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Once a week - wow. What investigation gave you done about it?

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The exampled contract would be rejected by any decent operator or ETM let alone the ITC
Even to the basics around payment, duration or jurisdiction.

It’s a waste of paper and couldn’t stand any scrutiny if things went wrong - let’s try and raise rather than lower standards

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Worthless for both parties so many reasons

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If an operator wants to take on your limited Co and you are its driver, then by all means do. However, unless specifically included, you would not be covered by the various insurances if things go wrong - and an ‘any driver’ insurance won’t normally cover the veh being driven by another company (you ...

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As an ETM, what do you actually do?
- Make sure trucks are downloaded
- drivers cards downloaded
- input the reason for any missing mileage (though there shouldn’t ever be any)
- make sure trucks/trailers make their PMI’s
- get infringements signed off?
As for charges, charge whatever you want and ...

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As most have said, as long as your’e in the yard then no problem- no need for any licence. The company should review it with their insurers and that’s it.
No need for your tacho card as it’s totally outside of the regs.
Presumably the depot TM would have said that and been part of the discussion ...

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fowlero wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:15 pm Ltd is the way forward

Absolutely. When you total the truck, the operators insurers will refuse to pay, the cost them goes to you / your Ltd Co.
But yeah, go for it in ignorance of the reality and risks you’re taking

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Likely to be concerns over the new operator as much as being a recently qualified TM
I can’t see why a new tM /owner operator is fine, but a new ETM isn’t. There are more than a few seasoned internal/ETMs going before the PI so experience isn’t a defacto of being competent.
But as they say, if you ...

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DornGo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:22 am Where I used to work, we dealt with Cat 1 and Cat 3 ABP. The vehicles we used were unladen when sent for a brake test and I believe were exempt.

If they’re exempt and are still exempt, then little changes.

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As a guide, a DVSA test station would not permit a laden refuse vehicle in their premises as it is a serious health hazard. I am sure your own premises H&S risk assessment would have similar controls. Suggest a discussion with your H&S Competent Person might be in order.

True, but the RA we’re ...

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The guide to maintaining roadworthiness (TCs baselines) is for 4 laden RBTs per year.
Laden means at least 65% GVW and axle weights.
As of April 25 only laden RBTs will be accepted.
A written risk assessment must be carried out if an unladen RBT is to be done.
However if you can’t load a ...

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The guide to maintaining roadworthiness (TCs baselines) is for 4 laden RBTs per year.
Laden means at least 65% GVW and axle weights.
As of April 25 only laden RBTs will be accepted.
A written risk assessment must be carried out if an unladen RBT is to be done.
However if you can’t load a vehicle ...

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The guide to maintaining roadworthiness (TCs baselines) is for 4 laden RBTs per year.
Laden means at least 65% GVW and axle weights.
As of April 25 only laden RBTs will be accepted.
A written risk assessment must be carried out if an unladen RBT is to be done.
However if you can’t load a vehicle ...

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If you can do an RBT, why not do it. Trying to do an RA to justify not doing it could be a challenge, more importantly, it wo to l d rest on the person signing the RA and the operator to justify the RA when you’ve just said they’re achievable, especially now they can become so far in advance of the ...

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It’s simple, as long as it’s legal, speed limit as the boss wants, if you don’t like it then start your own business

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Read the latest GtMR, whatever your PMI interval is, laden test within 14 days prior. The alternative is more complex - assuming you’ve not got an exempt vehicle

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I had to get back to Chester from goole because of a family emergency had already finished for the day card was out when I got the call so card went back in and drove home regardless family is more important than any regulation got pulled by dvsa a month later was quizzed about it and had it ...

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Wow, what an employer who seems intent in the absolute minimum breaks, rather than doing what’s right for wellbeing.

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Wehsor2610 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:01 pm Can't do it on Yr own phone vosa won't allow it company must keep records.

Only half the answer, can’t use it on personal phone unless it can be stored and accessible to the operator.
Perhaps that was an old answer from vosa

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Perhaps smaller operators, and no idea what small operator means, but perhaps the effect of TC sanctions are more impact than on the larger ones.
From a compliance perspective, smaller operators are closer together so the whole compliance could or should be much easier to maintain

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It’s because the bigger companies have big money and can take on big solicitors and spend a lot of money taking to pi whereas a small man is more than likely hanging on by a thread as it is and will surrender his licence before pi

can't surrender a licence if called to a PI have to go through ...

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The dilemma always for Payne and ETM as 2nd job, how easily can go do they weekday tasks at short notice, especially since the latest GtMR.
Visiting the PMI providers, gate checks - other than Saturday morning, take driver call mid-afternoon etc. and the list goes on as pat of C&E management
they ...

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Get your feet under the table, set a planned timetable. ER format would be the way I’d go. It’s what the OTC refer to Then prioritise with timescales.
Worry less about where they are now, revisit it in 3 months then worry at the shortfalls and enjoy the improvements

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Funny that so many drivers suddenly think they can go in the office and fail to recognise they’ve become the very character they used to hate and abuse

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Not read them all, but many talking about ‘fatigue’ simply see a simple solution of having a quick break, whilst failing to recognise, fatigue doesn’t just happen, it’s very rarely just one day, it’s an accumulation of pretending being able to do more work, more driving, more everything and longer ...

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Lots of definite yes’s. The reality is maybe, nothing in SD1 days it would be definite loss of repute. Much like the driver visiting the TC. , there can be lots of circs that raise or lower the outcomes

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the TM does not involve in the financial side of my business. His job is to look after the trucks, and the drivers.

Part of your undertaking on the license is Financial standing.

yes, this is my undertaking as the Operating licence holder. It’s MY LICENCE, and I employ the TM, it’s not ...

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Who cares ?

Who cares surly you should care ? Would you like to explain to the forum why us TM should not have duty of care to report a non compliance operator.

Because it’s not laid out in the regulations and as likely / should be in the contract us confidentiality (to a point). There are ...

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For a yes/ no answer. If you’ve had no success with the simple resets, then No. if they light up for you, they’ll light up for DVSA.
Think of the infamous consequences of the Bath tipper incident involving brakes !!!

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