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As a company owner the trucks are my trucks and I have the right to look at what is going on in my truck and the drivers work space. It is legal and if the drivers cover them up then they have something to hide and I would not want them working for me.

Spot on.

Passed it thank god! Thanks for asking! 😁

Well done that’s great. 😀 I remember the nerves I felt on the day of mine and it is unbearable 😂 well done again. 😊

Yeah it’s horrible isn’t it, then to top it off I also had my examiner getting assessed in the 3rd seat in the cab so that got me even worst lol! All done now though over the moon. 😁

One big bit of advice know you have passed I have been tramping 35 years and 3 wives later always put your family first, I absolutely loved my job being away but it took its toll and miss my children growing up. Good luck in your future buddy. 👍👍

I think this infringement is about WTD. Each 6-hour minimum 30-minute break happened with me. Now, I'm sure to take a break of 30 minutes or 2x 15 minutes between my start and six hours later. For example, I started at 3 a.m. before 9 a.m. and made a 30-minute Break.

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I used to go in a long lane to a peat bog in Edenderry Co/Offaly nearly every day ya couldn't have drove 10feet without going into a pothole was about 2 mile long what I always did was rang the digger man to see if any other lorrys have just left him or always ask on the CB anyone leaving the digger because there was nowhere to pass.

If everyone drove at 40 mph I guarantee there would be twice as many accidents put you to sleep that type a driving. Up to 75 lorry's fit on one boat at a time stenna and p&o hit cairnryan at the same time if the lead truck done 40 that be a disaster everyone all jammed up together. Get a good rador detector and salute the d**khead with the middle finger that 75 should be carriage way 30 years ago the police could go solve real crimes then leave hard working men alone!

I started for a local company nearly 3 months ago. Pay isn’t amazing and while yeah some warehouse jobs probably pay more it’s more than either of my other 2 jobs payed. But it’s good overtime rate, Mon-Fri, easy enough work with the occasional night out and I don’t have someone breathing down my neck because I haven’t gotten to somewhere for a certain time. For the lack of stress I have working I’m fine with not having an extra quid or two an hour and after bills I always have enough to be comfortable. 👍🏼

7.5T Royal Mail, Warrington £16-£17ph.

Seen advertised for class 1 at Royal Mail £23 hour on days and £24 hour on nights. Only trouble is they want a years experience.

Was that agency? If you start on the 7.5t just to get your foot in the door, do a few shifts, show you're willing, you will get on the artics.

Honestly can’t remember, it was a month or 2 ago I saw a couple of posts.

22 days for me on 4 on 4 off but we don't get bank holidays off but do get extra pay or normal pay (choice is yours) and a day off in lieu of your rota says that your working on the bank holiday.

I've had drivers who have worked for me who have had similar problems. TBH it seems to rely totally on who is dealing with your case and how proactive you and they are. Best of luck and stay positive. I would assume 6 months to get your licence back but it's down to how quick you respond to the meds they give you and how good your own doc is on the help you will need. Let us know how you get on please.

I have a garmin dezl 710 which for me has been absolutely superb.
If I’m going somewhere new I also use Google earth. Street view is a really useful tool.

You are not on break though. It is working time and needs to be recorded as such

why is he not on break?
He isn't working or driving is he? Give me strength

He isn't on a break either... he's on duty and being recovered, he isn't taking a break.

you had a stroke?

no lol 😆😂. It's a fact drivers now are mostly useless. 95% couldn't rope and sheet a flat trailer or reverse a dolly axle wagon and drag 🤔. The vast majority of these idiots are driving around the town in their blinged up V8 scanias looking at themselves in shop windows 😆🤣🤣

I can't shoe a horse or thatch a roof, why? Because they're mostly unneeded skills. Times move on. See what I'm saying here?

He'll be wanting to go back to the times when we had to handball the bags of feed/fertilizer, etc off the trailer beds and into the lofts/barns etc of farms manually (with no mechanical assistance)...

Learnt roping and sheeting and it's fucking horrible task when you had no protection from wind/rain/cold and nobody to assist. Should be bloody outlawed... that's why curtainsiders/etc were invented time/money not driver welfare. In a yard, taking up space trying to roll up sheets/etc when tipping and holding everyone up while they are there with curtainsiders....

Umm I’d say if you’re a shift driver days/nights. £600 to £650/£660 per week take home.

from what i see and heard from other drivers on the old cpc course, artic drivers now seems to be lower than 15 years ago, and now get £600/£650 aweek, seems to be £15 to £17per hour on average

Taking the lower quote...

15 x 50 hours per week is 750 (without a overtime/rate). 600 would only be 40 hours, which is less than your average allowed driving time 45/45 (90 over two weeks) and wouldn't include loading/tipping/walk around checks, paperwork, washing the lorry, fueling up, etc, etc. Do they start at 9 and finish at 5?

It’s a complicated grey area as if they take it off his pay slip for final pay they can’t pay him less than the national minimum wage!
While why did he get sacked is better question?

he was on recovery work. Attended a crash site and was accused of stealing an item from a crashed vehicle. As the owner of the car couldnt find it when they went to retrieve there belongings from it at the holding yard.
The item in question being a mobile phone dash holder. Which could of come loose in the impact and ended up anywhere.

Did your mate ever consider that the driver was on the phone? The fact it's a crash makes me wonder has he accused your mate to ensure that he has an excuse to say it was hands free if the police investigate and discover the phone was being used. Just a thought.

I do Class 2. 17.45ph, 48 contracted hours, usually do between 40-45 a week. Class 2 isn't bad. I like to work in cities and take breaks anywhere I want, going to shops, cafes, etc. In 18 tonner you can fit almost everywhere, even Tesco's customer car park. I don't like long runs on motorways, huge warehouses with stupid rules, long hours, waiting, nights out, I hate breaks on services.

You must register at least 1 minute of driving before you can take the 1st part of a split driving break. Other wise it'll just count for the WTD, and then the 30 will be the 1st part of the split driving break. Press down and if you're still on break the bottom right will show the current time on break and the top right will be plus 15 if you've already had the 1st part of a split driving break.

Yeah that’s what I’m worried about, I'm moving from bristol back to forest of dean so it’s about 45 mins to avonmouth not as far as you but still eats diesel.

That’s about what my commute is at the moment, I’ll make sure that I drive economically in my diesel car and it’s not too bad.

Get 80mpg in my merc but still looking at a full tank a week. 😐

My 45 minute commute is 38 miles, multiply that by five days equals 380 miles. I’ve got a 2 L diesel Ford focus and it’s averaging 55 miles to the gallon and gets about 600 miles to the tank if I drive economically. Using it just for work I am using about 65% of a tank which works out to about £60 per week.

GDPR - if that manager is not the data controller for the company, which he won’t be, he has no right to interrogate any camera. If you are supposed to have broken company rules, you must be notified in writing that photographic footage of yourself is to be investigated. I find it highly unlikely that the transport manager struck gold with the driver texting through a random check. I’d say that he had beef with him for whatever reason, and was watching him constantly, and spot check is the excuse to deny this. Using a phone is obviously a no no, but that driver if he’d been there more than 2 years has a solid case for unfair dismissal.

I'm a tipper driver it ain't everything you think it is and they can ask a lot of you from the get go. Things were really getting to me at the start of the week until I spoke to a couple of the other drivers who've been there a while which helped me chill out a bit and finished the week strong even with the shouting that I got at the end of the day but that's a different story and one I don't care about. 🤷🏼 You just need to buy a course do the course and pass the bits you need job done.

No legally they don't have to let you use there sh***ers. If you don't like it go see your union or just take shovel and do as the security told you too.

Correct, it’s privately owned, their rules, the op never said they actually charged him nor did he say which exact night it was, when they were clearly declared closed over the Xmas period.

The newer wagon or those fitted with Adas will pick the overtaking vehicle up & apply the brakes automatically. Just put your foot on the accelerator to over ride it or it’ll drop you back.

First person I've seen with some sense, just use the throttle to maintain speed until the gaps big enough, this whole moving over to lane 2 to maintain distance thing is ridiculous. 😂

Well I’ve been informed the following. Start @ 6am, I must have started my last break which is 30 minutes before 11.59 as this will be 6 hours, but have already taken a 15 minute break at some stage before this, unless 4 1/2 driving has come 1st. Then take the same again up to 17.59 hours.

We were all young lads at one time. We all learned our trade made our mistakes, had squeaky bum moments. Hopefully nothing too bad. Should give these lads time and help and mentor them to enjoy the trade and hopefully stay. We’ve all took chances and at sometimes drove like an idiot to make the booking time. Fair play to this youngster take care and let the sh**e criticism given out on here and other sites roll off your shoulders. 👍

Tell them they either unload now and finish so you can park safe. Or pull curtains in cab put on rest for 11 hrs. They can't force you to move. If they try calling the police get them to send a traffic officer and he should back you. Plus the cannot work around or unload you whilst on rest. Police have chalked marked ares around you so they have to stay away. Seen this happen at aRDC and they could not use 2 bays either side of the truck. Plus the police will tell you any problems call again and they will sort it out for you.

Yes I'm ex - bus. Now class 1 driving. It's all down to what type of work you're doing. Likewise bus work is too. If you're driving rural routes with a few twirlys on each trip, bus driving is a breeze. If you're inner city, then it can be one of the most stressful jobs going. HGV driving can be either too. You could be trunking for a supermarket/RDC and just driving up and down one motorway all day everyday, mind numbing but easy. Or you could be up to your knees in mud on a building site, chaining, in the pissing rain, trying to not get your truck stuck. Likewise you could be multi drop in the middle of London with no idea where or how you're supposed to be getting around. But all in all my CPC for bus has expired, and I have no intention of renewing it. I can't be arsed arguing with some 12 year old that's threatening to get the boys because he doesn't have a ticket.

I always move into lane 2 especially if they give the thank you signal. My camera records the fact I've moved lanes. Why would I flash a driver in then move lanes. I drive a red truck so if you've seen this happen to you that's the reason. The law states I have to do something to maintain a safe distance, I brake or move lanes. I am starting to contemplate sending footage to opsnap but still feel they might be new drivers.

It's illegal to drive without one in date mate. Therefore the company employing him there insurance maybe invalid while he's driving.

Not technically true. It's only illegal if he's carrying goods. If he's just moving empty trailers or units for service or even workshop related work a cpc is not required.

Can you share that source? Trailers are often ‘the goods’ , and shuttling empties has conditions that wouldn’t include a normal driver.

Terrible wage
I get basic salary 650 a week for up to 10 hrs a day (50 a week) after 10hrs a day its £16 p/h weekends £20 p/h same as bank holidays but also get extra day to book holiday £26 night out allowance to
And we getting pay rise in April they do it every year
And I’m a new pass so £11 p/h terrible
Plus get yearly bonus and all parking etc paid
And extra if do diff job sometimes do Tesco that’s £10 a day more money or reefers adr etc all £10-12 a time more if do it
I’m not adr but do others were extra pay is involved

Based on what you've described, it seems like the Porsche might have been at fault for trying to force their way into a space that wasn’t there. If you were in the inside lane and there wasn’t enough room for them, it sounds like they were driving aggressively. I had a similar incident a while back where someone tried to squeeze in front of me in traffic and ended up causing a minor collision. After talking to a lawyer, I found out that the other driver was actually at fault. I’d recommend reaching out to the Best Tulsa, OK Personal Injury Attorneys for some advice—they helped me understand my rights and navigate the insurance process smoothly.

Having spent many years taking strike action in the fire service (which many of you may have believed all the media about all our second jobs) unless you have a very strong union and good membership you'll be pissing in the wind as plenty of scabs out there will quickly take 13 pieces of silver. I see alot of posts on here about wages etc, I was in charge of a watch and generally took home less than what I now earn in haulage on an average wage for the industry.

I'm sure all these transport companies that implement these particular driver facing cameras would have no issue with having said cameras installed in their offices to make sure they don't nod off at their computers and spill their coffee and burn themselves just for their safety 🤣, on a serious note I'd have no problem with external cameras fitted all round the vehicle and have driven with such systems no issues but I don't need someone watching me every minute of my shift makes you feel like they don't trust you and I don't except all the bs about its for the drivers protection.

Mugging you off I think. Yes no experience but there's certain jobs that you stay away from and this is one of them. Cash in hand mostly likely means you aren't on the books so no pension contributions and basically tax avoidance which makes me wonder how they're classing you as being insured to drive for them. Anything goes wrong no one is protecting you, you are being hung out to dry. This is just a recipe for disaster. Plus like some people are saying to take the experience and move on. If the company already has a bad rep do you think other companies will consider you or someone else when they might consider you running bent (possibly) especially when you need to produce any documentation payslips and you say it was cash in hand.

Depending on your age and the area you live in you may struggle to find work, that said if you can get on a government boot camp so it's not costing you an arm and a leg to do it then go for it, you may have to settle for one of the lower paying firms for a year or 2 to build up experience but there is decent money out there, be warned though it can be hard work at times, can be long hours, plays havoc with your personal life and contrary to what the press would have you believe we're not all on 100k for a 40 hour week. If that hasn't put you off then Google LGV boot camps and ring a training centre.

Your going the right way by starting as you are, there’s nothing wrong or degrading about driving a bin lorry and what you’ve got to remember it’s just your first step on the ladder and you’ve done well to find a job so quickly. Try and give the job a good 12 months and then think about looking for something else, however I would advise you to register with indeed and start following the job market in your area so you know what’s going on and the wages people are paying, also join a few other HGV driver forums through social media and listen to what’s going on and the current issues other drivers face today, obviously you’ll get a lot of negativity from some people but what I would say is if the job is that bad why are they still doing it. I’ve been in the job 50 still enjoy driving and what I do. I’m on walking floor trailers and am very happy with what I’m doing. And good luck for the future if you need any advice or have any questions feel free to contact me at anytime. 👋👋👋

What satnav system you using?

Tom Tom go on my phone.

I tried Waze recently and find it excellent, our daughter was driving up to us at Cheshire when an accident right on Junction 1 of the M5 she remembered about Waze put it into phone from Frankley services it took her off at Jct 3 and in no time she was onto the M5 at Jct 1 the other side of the accident. Users notify and update the satnav constantly, yesterday I had a blue dot flashing about half a mile in front it came up Pot hole 🤔 Waze app.

Yeah Waze is great for cars not hgvs as can’t put it height etc in.

It's upsetting. Having transport Manager who managing drivers without any experience at all.
Good luck for all those poor drivers.

A decent bonus. I’ve worked at different firms and had different Xmas bonuses or profit share paid in December. Anything from £500, hampers, cases of lager. I always thought it’s the thought that counts and says a lot about the firm. Last years was a corker, kind of lost for words and giving a rating for creativity ranks at Zero. Baring in mind this firm made £11.4 Million profit, involved in cakes and bread products. We got a packet of M&S slices, they looked crap, with just 7 days best before left and a bottle of Prime. A week later just before the New Year, probably after listening to the gratitude of the employees someone must have had an after thought and we got Sainsbury’s Yule time log, 5 days best before left. Basically someone has said “just give them something out of the stock that’s going to get ditched“. If you get £50, £100 or £500 extra then someone at the firm has actually thought about you, what I saw you could say “the taking the piss continues and that’s your worth...

Rules have probably changed since I packed up driving 6 years ago. But at the end of the day you are responsible for the security of the vehicle and it’s load whilst out on the highway. Back in the mid 90s a driver at one of our yards in Leeds. Reported for his shift Truck was loaded and sealed, he went to check load and was told load is secure and sealed. So he set off, 15 minutes later police phoned company to inform them the truck had tipped over on a roundabout. The load wasn’t strapped and had shifted. Driver ended up in Court charged with failing to secure his load. So if you want to secure your load your way then do so. Stay safe buddy.

I work mon to fri, average around 52 hours, we have Saturday morning work of around 4 hours 7-11ish, I do 2 on 1 off 2 on 1 off consistently and never had an infringement, even with the Saturday mornings I still have 42 hours rest but still will count as a reduced rest.

Is it too late at age 32 to do hgv course as looking to do class 1 and what advice for newly passed is it best to go on agency to get work?
I've done forklift driver for 15 years warehouse work I'm bored of it.

Never too late, our company has put 3 x men aged 30-55 through their HGV test in the last couple of years, we also had a woman work for us in her first HGV job and she was over 40 when she passed.

From my experience speaking with new HGV drivers, of all ages, genders and different working backgrounds - some prefer artics, some prefer tippers, some prefer skip lorries, some prefer bin lorries and some will only drive lorries of a certain size. So i would maybe think of what work you would like to do and what hours you want to work. A lot of artic drivers have long hours and stay out overnight, where bin lorry drivers may work 9 hour days Monday to Friday.

An HGV licenece is always a good thing to have.

They need reporting to DVSA! No job is worth a life and this could possibly end badly! I had cords showing on a lorry at 4 am in the morning, no fitters about, asked me to drive till around 10 am then take it to tyre fitted, refused went back home and told them call me at 10 when the fitters here to fit a new one! My licence at the end of the day not theirs! I’d be liable not them! Your the professional not them! It’s not on them it’s on you! Imagine it goes whilst on a motorway next to a little tiny car with kids in it! How company’s allow their drivers to go out like this is disgusting! Plenty more jobs out there pal with better company’s who will look after you better then this! Red flag company 🚩 tell them to take it out themselves if it’s ok because you ain’t going.

I remember DVLA allowed into Tesco Hamilton warning all vehicles on a bay on rest. While you are sat in there sh**e hole, waiting rooms. You ain't resting.

But you are taking a break in the waiting room.

No diferent, it should be on work. The reason is, you can't do what you want to do, you need to sit at there command. On rest you are enabled to do, or go where you wish.

Rest and break are 2 separate meanings. You are able to take a break as you are not doing any other work or driving but, you are able to recuperate.
You can’t rest as you can’t dispose of your own time as you wish.

I wouldn’t bother personally. It’s something I’ve always wanted to do from a young age managed to do a fast track course during a shutdown period in work. Passed it all first time, struggled to get work due to zero experience. The hours are long the roles that pay the most are usually tramping therefore even longer hours again. So when you work it out against the hours you’re probably doing twice the amount of hours for just above minimum wage. As previously mentioned your only deemed the professional when you make a mistake or c**kup. Which can come with hefty fines points that will affect all your future insurance premiums. If the incident is serious enough you can even face prison time! I’d heed the warning of the more experienced drivers as they’ve fully experienced the industry for decades. Maybe 10-20 years ago it was the job to do, but with all the roadworks, traffic and legislation not anymore. At the end of the day anybody that is deemed physically fit can do it. You’re far...

Leave when you want to is the answer? What can they do about it F/A, You can allways loose the keys up the road somewhere lol But make sure you sort a lift before you do ?

I’m only going by my own experience but there’s been more than a couple of times where I’ve stayed 25 odd hours and paid for 24. Essentially once the 24 hours expires you start another 2 hour free period.

Be prepared to be continually cut up and never let out into another lane. Indicate early rather than up the arse of the slower vehicle.

Tell me about it, I always see this at work, does my head in, Im always letting wagons out and giving them plenty of space on roundabouts, gotta look out for eachother.

Great post, I've been at it 25yrs and grew up around transport and you think you know more than you do when you start! It was a little more interesting back then as it would take months to get fully confident with the gearbox and we only had map books so getting lost was a daily occurrence lol. Every driver still has the odd day or two when the butterflies kick in and you start thinking This isn't going to end well when your creeping down a country road looking for a customer hoping you can get through and not end up on Tic Tok! Never be ashamed to ask, always plan your route (Google is your friend) take your time and if all else fails pull up and put the kettle on lol Good Luck! 👍

I know what you are saying, if you signed up on an Agency and said day work only and no tramping then they send you somewhere that wants the opposite then technically you've turned up for work and should be paid by Agency. Also, they should quickly swap you over to another job so they get their monies worth but you've no chance of getting paid by the firm wanting a driver as they'll have to pay someone else to do it. Your Agency should have checked the job before sending you.

You've just thought about it logically too quickly, so you're allowed to drive continuously 4 hours 30 minutes so just add that onto 6:15am that brings you to 10:15am but says you've been driving up until 10am so take 15 mins off & you've been driving for 3 hours 45 minutes which leaves 45 minutes left before you need your full 45 minutes break to reset you're driving & working time breaks.

Tom Tom Go Expert but don’t rely on it 100 % if in doubt at all don’t turn into a road. Diversions I find sometimes send you down roads you wish you had avoided.

No they don't. Just make sure you tell them I'm gonna leave the wagon on my break to get a takeaway. If the wagon and load gets stolen then it's their problem. This actually happened to a driver I know. He nipped to get a KFC on his break. As he was on his way back to the wagon it was being driven away. Was parked in Birmingham though. They couldn't discipline the driver because they don't pay for his break so he doesn't have to stay with the wagon. Wagon was fully loaded. They got the wagon back minus the load.

Wagon.

Yep wagon. That's what we have always called the pieces of sh** where I'm from. If it's a brand new top of the range Scania or Volvo. It's still a piece of sh** wagon or a work horse.

As others have said that is completely unlawful. If you have it in writing that they won’t pay you then contact ACAS and ask them to start a reconciliation claim. They will contact them on your behalf and guarantee the second they do the money will hit your bank like a shot.

Stop eating rubbish, nothing will happen if you don't have too many. It happens from now and then to all of us. DVSA are aware about the traffic and accidents especially at this time of the year. Print out, explain the reason and sign.

Cheers mate. It's my 1st time so I'm stressing abit. When over cozens I had a accident that last 41 minutes and I fuled up at the end which took another 16mins.

I wouldn't have fuelled up if it was gonna take me over my 15 hours. You could just have explained to your transport office why you didn't and maybe leave a note in the cab for the next driver.

Stay as you are fella driving these days is crap crap hours crap pay no life.

👌 That’s what I’m hearing a lot of.

True mate and half the ppl passing now can’t get a job even the old school like me mate wouldn’t set ya alarm for half of what they pay now I was earning more 15 years ago as a class 2 hiab than I can as a class 1.

Mines good. Do less than 50 hours a week for £650 take home. Life's good.

It is unreasonable buddy. All those daft comments from the heroic self promoters who aren't in the situation is nothing other than noise and hot air. Luckily the breeze will take care of the hot air, I guess ear plugs for the noise. 👍

I suppose my point is when advertising the job the company promoted the fact that they pay for your cpc it’s more of a token gesture. Speaking to another driver last night who lives in stevenage he was given the option of Oxford, Nottingham or Wolverhampton all starting at 7:30 am on a Sunday morning.

I drive in London daily these days. I’ve been doing the job 30 years. Last year bust a rear cab light doing a jack knife turn in a tight yard. It was my mistake. I “thought” I was fine, I wasn’t! Don’t beat your self up! Someone once said to me, “if in doubt? Get out.” It’s a good rule to stick by. When I broke the light I owned up straight away. I then (company policy) had to be assessed for a day. Someone at work said, we’ve had drivers here who have 20 years clean driving record! I said are they the night trampers who do yard to hub and back every night? Didn’t get an answer. The point I was making, big difference in hub runs at night, to daily daytime runs through central London.

Had same on a renewal lost the motorbike licence, that is why I never send old licence in anymore, past test 30 years ago and they would only reinstate it if I sent my pass cert. Had to retake test.

You couldn't send them the pass cert from 30yrs ago. As you had to send it to them once you passed your test. It was only valid for 12months.

Exactly and even if I had a copy who would keep it that long.

Somebody with a BIG paper bin lol.

My car test I passed 3rd time my class 2 test passed 3rd time and class 1 passed 3rd time. Don't beat yourself up take in what you failed on if you are just going straight for test after failing and not having another week training then my advice would be have another week with instructor before test.

Side lights are a thing I never understood, in laybys or unlit roads the police can and will fine you for not having a side light or parking light on iv had it once but was warned instead of fined. Its stupid either you drain your battery or you can get magnetic bicycle lights charge during the day and use them at night or try and park on lit roads.

Technically it’s illegal. On Saturday it would have to be till 11:59.

Why?

If you hit 12 again you’ve gone over.

Gone over what? You can't just male your own rules up. I hope you're drivers ain't on here ro see you getting the rules wrong.

If it is samsara. It will record if you lift your hand up, or not wearing a seat belt. So if you drink a coffee whilst driving, it will record you. Face is usually pixilated and only select members of staff will have access. A cover can be bought to cover the camera if in a night out. It's not intrusive, and insurance companies could be forcing the issue. It Usually on records 5 or 10 seconds. Staff do not have the time to sit at a pc watching you all day.

Maritime has now sold to Med Lock but as long as you get the right operator they are ok as long as you do everything the Maritime way. I was on Maritime for a couple of years. I have a grandson and a couple of mates on Goldstar and again if you've got the right operator they sound a bit more chilled with there rules than maritime. Goldstar are owned by Turners of Soham.

If you want to work 70 hours a week for just over minimum wage sleeping in a truck and struggling to survive on one wage the UK is defiantly for you just become another legal slave to the UK government.

Why are drivers so gullible? It sounds to me like your company want you to use the system (which they are entitled to), insurance companies would never insist you follow a sat nav! A set route perhaps but not a sat nav. The fact that half of Wales has road signs instructing you not to follow your sat nav kind of proves that point.

Who is gulliable, but whilst talking guliable if you say it slowly it sounds like your saying oranges.

He shouldn’t walk that many times as you don’t throw the hook. Therefore they are on the right sides.

I’ve never actually tried to hold on to the hook and throw the strap when they are rolled up like this, but gonna give it a try. I usually just unroll them and roll them back up the correct way before throwing them.

I think some people are missing the point here. Yes he answered willingly because he doesn't mind helping however once he found out that the office was purposefully telling people to ring him that's when the situation changed and I'd be the same because they should be dealing with it not panning it off to someone who's supposed to be taking time off. So yeah completly in the right to restart your rest once you realised the office was literally sending calls your way. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I'm expecting a bit of stick for this, but I'm really confused. So here goes, I'm a new driver, 5 months and today I got an infringement. It stated I took 2 15 min breaks in 6 hours. I can't see anything wrong with this, unless I'd driven more than 4 and a half hours which I hadn't. Any explanation for this please.

Just a quick thought. Although you said you took 2x 15 minutes breaks, what did the tacho say when you started working again? Because I always leave my break to over run by 2 minutes every time. So your tacho display should say you had 17 minutes break rather than 15. The reason being is the tacho doesn't show you seconds on the clock and all the ones I've used have never rounded up to the next minute.
They've always cancelled out the seconds.
So in theory you could be on break for 15 minutes and 30 seconds but if you start working again, the tacho will just say you had 15 minutes. So I change from rest to other work only after 17 minutes or 32 minutes on a split...

Would be nice if drivers would then there would be all on a sensible rate not these micky mouse rates £14-£16hr takes the p**s.

Change the record moan moan moan you should have studied harder at school, it's driving a truck not flying a plane.

We all no rates are sh** it's never going to change theres no money in haulage that's what bosses say riding round in there new posh motors in one way. I'm glad of being out of the industry.

Clouds and silver linings? Drivers wages are dictated predominantly by supply and demand. Less drivers, higher wage rates. Union membership may be useful if you can't take the cheapest option and plead guilty. Mixed and part time driving is becoming a bit of a pain but the money driving out of scope work is not much different. No point taking risks if it isn't necessary! 😉

Generally it's better to leave your midlift or tag axle up when running empty, I love how everyone is just throwing answers in without any explanation.
If you go on an average unit weight of 8 ton and a trailer of 7 ton spread over 5 axles is maybe putting around 2.5 to 3 ton of pressure on the drive axle, if you drop your lift axle down you are effectively only putting half of that weight or pressure on your drive axle so decreasing the grip, the same applies to the more brakes' answers because if you have less weight or pressure on your available braking surfaces then you actually decrease braking efficiency. If you also think logically about your midlift when it's in the up position it's dead weight to help with extra weight bearing on the drive axle, also apply the principle of leverage with a tag axle, if it's up then again it's dead weight but hanging behind the drive axle so using the contact patch of the drive as a fulcrum and the chassis as a lever then it increases the dead...

It’s too simple a picture your painting by saying day rate and divide by the week (however I do get where you are coming from) the real picture is actually what you earn in a year (if you are on a day rate) that takes into account 1. A day rate 2. A night rate 3. Any bonuses etc once you have a rate for the year then you divide it by the hours. At the point you get a real idea of your hourly rate, which if you’re working for a good company, will be a lot higher than NMW.

And you are entitled to your opinion. I respect that, even if it differs from mine. If you have already done a year at a place before you work out what your pay is, it’s a bit late. You could be 10-15k short of what you could have earned elsewhere.

Not late at all. You can use your method in the initial stage (which would be glaring obvious if it was a bad company and they were taking the p**s out of you) as a base line measure. But the true hourly rate is measured when you have a full years salary under your...

Why did the lorry try pulling out in front of a car, knowing full well he was traveling slower than the car? Did you also note that the lorry was only indicating for less than 2 seconds before pulling out? Indicating is for telling people what you want to do, before you do it, not what you are doing.