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Quick question, I'm training for theory tests and case studies at the moment and this has question has come up on the CPC Module 2 training.

I chose 'Other work' as the answer but the correct answer be should be 'Period of availability.

I thought POA should be used when you know exactly how long you're going to be stopped for, so I thought other work was a more sensible option.

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sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pmCorrect.
Which option?
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KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pm
sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pmCorrect.
Which option?
If you are told that it will be at least "so long" before you will be able to be unloaded then POA "Period of Availability" otherwise you can take a break or leave it on other work. I and no doubt everyone else use POA as and when for our own advantage. I do a 9 hour day maximum so as far as I am concerned POA = Period Of Activity!
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sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pm
sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pmCorrect.
Which option?
If you are told that it will be at least "so long" before you will be able to be unloaded then POA "Period of Availability" otherwise you can take a break or leave it on other work. I and no doubt everyone else use POA as and when for our own advantage. I do a 9 hour day maximum so as far as I am concerned POA = Period Of Activity!
Because POA doesn't count towards work or break?
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sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pm
sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pmCorrect.
Which option?
If you are told that it will be at least "so long" before you will be able to be unloaded then POA "Period of Availability" otherwise you can take a break or leave it on other work. I and no doubt everyone else use POA as and when for our own advantage. I do a 9 hour day maximum so as far as I am concerned POA = Period Of Activity!
thought It was period of availability not activity
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KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:50 pm
sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pm

Which option?
If you are told that it will be at least "so long" before you will be able to be unloaded then POA "Period of Availability" otherwise you can take a break or leave it on other work. I and no doubt everyone else use POA as and when for our own advantage. I do a 9 hour day maximum so as far as I am concerned POA = Period Of Activity!
Because POA doesn't count towards work or break?
no it doesn't, however, it will count as a break on your tachograph, you have to know where you are with your driving hours as it will wipe the slate clean and you will be on 0.00 driving, and you may have only driven 30 minutes.
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sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:51 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:50 pm
sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pm

If you are told that it will be at least "so long" before you will be able to be unloaded then POA "Period of Availability" otherwise you can take a break or leave it on other work. I and no doubt everyone else use POA as and when for our own advantage. I do a 9 hour day maximum so as far as I am concerned POA = Period Of Activity!
Because POA doesn't count towards work or break?
no it doesn't, however, it will count as a break on your tachograph, you have to know where you are with your driving hours as it will wipe the slate clean and you will be on 0.00 driving, and you may have only driven 30 minutes.
So if you choose POA you have to be making a manual note of how many hours you're driving in a 24 hour period so you know when to take your break?
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Stu2ngding wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:50 pm
sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:49 pm

Which option?
If you are told that it will be at least "so long" before you will be able to be unloaded then POA "Period of Availability" otherwise you can take a break or leave it on other work. I and no doubt everyone else use POA as and when for our own advantage. I do a 9 hour day maximum so as far as I am concerned POA = Period Of Activity!
thought It was period of availability not activity
that my Yorkshire sense of humour, not lost my sense of humour even though I live and work in Germany. It is Period of Availability.
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KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:51 pm
sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:51 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:50 pm

Because POA doesn't count towards work or break?
no it doesn't, however, it will count as a break on your tachograph, you have to know where you are with your driving hours as it will wipe the slate clean and you will be on 0.00 driving, and you may have only driven 30 minutes.
So if you choose POA you have to be making a manual note of how many hours you're driving in a 24 hour period so you know when to take your break?
just do a printout and you can see where you are with driving time, breaks and POA.
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sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:53 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:51 pm
sh+unillo wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:51 pm

no it doesn't, however, it will count as a break on your tachograph, you have to know where you are with your driving hours as it will wipe the slate clean and you will be on 0.00 driving, and you may have only driven 30 minutes.
So if you choose POA you have to be making a manual note of how many hours you're driving in a 24 hour period so you know when to take your break?
just do a printout and you can see where you are with driving time, breaks and POA.
Thank you.
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I would have said other work too, as you don't know the length of time you're going to be waiting...?
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POA but in real life break mode 😂
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Other work unless they tell you how long gonna be waiting
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If you are waiting and not doing any work it can be break
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Which app is this? With the information provided in the question. The correct answer would be other work or possibly break if the driver isn't carrying out any work activities. If the driver is waiting for workers to accept the load, without any information on the potential waiting time, it can't be POA. 👍
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lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm Which app is this? With the information provided in the question. The correct answer would be other work or possibly break if the driver isn't carrying out any work activities. If the driver is waiting for workers to accept the load, without any information on the potential waiting time, it can't be POA. 👍
The website is Driving Test Success Anytime. There's no information given on possible waiting time.
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KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm
lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm Which app is this? With the information provided in the question. The correct answer would be other work or possibly break if the driver isn't carrying out any work activities. If the driver is waiting for workers to accept the load, without any information on the potential waiting time, it can't be POA. 👍
The website is Driving Test Success Anytime. There's no information given on possible waiting time.
Maybe drop them a message and let them know their info is wrong. 😂
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KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm
lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm Which app is this? With the information provided in the question. The correct answer would be other work or possibly break if the driver isn't carrying out any work activities. If the driver is waiting for workers to accept the load, without any information on the potential waiting time, it can't be POA. 👍
The website is Driving Test Success Anytime. There's no information given on possible waiting time.
I’ve just passed my theory and cpc case studies with DTS. The actual test at the centre is nothing like this awful system! Take it with a pinch of salt.
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KennIInstant wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:57 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm
lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm Which app is this? With the information provided in the question. The correct answer would be other work or possibly break if the driver isn't carrying out any work activities. If the driver is waiting for workers to accept the load, without any information on the potential waiting time, it can't be POA. 👍
The website is Driving Test Success Anytime. There's no information given on possible waiting time.
I’ve just passed my theory and cpc case studies with DTS. The actual test at the centre is nothing like this awful system! Take it with a pinch of salt.
Thank you. I get quite disheartened when I think I’m getting to grips with it and then things like this come up.
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KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:57 pm
KennIInstant wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:57 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm

The website is Driving Test Success Anytime. There's no information given on possible waiting time.
I’ve just passed my theory and cpc case studies with DTS. The actual test at the centre is nothing like this awful system! Take it with a pinch of salt.
Thank you. I get quite disheartened when I think I’m getting to grips with it and then things like this come up.
Trust me so was I! I was so nervous going into the test thinking I was going to fail and walked out with a pass. The test is easier in the centre so try and not take it so seriously if the mock tests aren’t what you want.
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KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm
lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm Which app is this? With the information provided in the question. The correct answer would be other work or possibly break if the driver isn't carrying out any work activities. If the driver is waiting for workers to accept the load, without any information on the potential waiting time, it can't be POA. 👍
The website is Driving Test Success Anytime. There's no information given on possible waiting time.
Best advice is to spend time reading the actual drivers hours regulations. (and other DVSA guidance) It'll give you a better overall understanding of the legal requirements and make the answers easier. Post any questions.👍
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lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:58 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm
lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm Which app is this? With the information provided in the question. The correct answer would be other work or possibly break if the driver isn't carrying out any work activities. If the driver is waiting for workers to accept the load, without any information on the potential waiting time, it can't be POA. 👍
The website is Driving Test Success Anytime. There's no information given on possible waiting time.
Best advice is to spend time reading the actual drivers hours regulations. (and other DVSA guidance) It'll give you a better overall understanding of the legal requirements and make the answers easier. Post any questions.👍
Thank you. I’ve been reading (and re-reading some sections) of the DVSA Guide to Driving Goods Vehicles.
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KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:59 pm
lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:58 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:56 pm

The website is Driving Test Success Anytime. There's no information given on possible waiting time.
Best advice is to spend time reading the actual drivers hours regulations. (and other DVSA guidance) It'll give you a better overall understanding of the legal requirements and make the answers easier. Post any questions.👍
Thank you. I’ve been reading (and re-reading some sections) of the DVSA Guide to Driving Goods Vehicles.
GV262 and safe loading.👍
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hou ... s-vehicles
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/securing-lo ... s-vehicles
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lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:00 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:59 pm
lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:58 pm

Best advice is to spend time reading the actual drivers hours regulations. (and other DVSA guidance) It'll give you a better overall understanding of the legal requirements and make the answers easier. Post any questions.👍
Thank you. I’ve been reading (and re-reading some sections) of the DVSA Guide to Driving Goods Vehicles.
GV262 and safe loading.👍
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hou ... s-vehicles
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/securing-lo ... s-vehicles
Will read those, thanks 😊
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KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:01 pm
lees-tech wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:00 pm
KilConymis wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:59 pm

Thank you. I’ve been reading (and re-reading some sections) of the DVSA Guide to Driving Goods Vehicles.
GV262 and safe loading.👍
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hou ... s-vehicles
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/securing-lo ... s-vehicles
Will read those, thanks 😊
2 separate links to docs. there Mate.
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You’re correct, but real world = break
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Other work as they have not stated a time. If you go to a drop with a booking in time of 10am and you know they wont tip early and you turn up at 9am. You then use poa coz you have a booking in time.
Hope that helps 👍
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AnthonnGGet wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:03 pm Other work as they have not stated a time. If you go to a drop with a booking in time of 10am and you know they wont tip early and you turn up at 9am. You then use poa coz you have a booking in time.
Hope that helps 👍
Thank you.
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It depends on circumstance. If you’re told they’ll take 10 mins to make a decision then POA. Otherwise other work. 😂
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DeDarrainc wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:04 pm It depends on circumstance. If you’re told they’ll take 10 mins to make a decision then POA. Otherwise other work. 😂
or break if you're just sat waiting
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NeeiCoopell wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:04 pm
DeDarrainc wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:04 pm It depends on circumstance. If you’re told they’ll take 10 mins to make a decision then POA. Otherwise other work. 😂
or break if you're just sat waiting
you’re only meant to use break if your having a break. I like to show variance to keep the transport manager on his toes. 😂
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I'm finding that cpc a bit weird compared to the theory test been passing theory sound apart from cpc case studies
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Break..always break! 🤣
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Nonesense.
It should be on Other Work. POA should be PRE-advised. Not when you get there.
But you would (in the real world) have it on break.
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Can’t be POA as you’re responsible for the load while the mixer is still turning.
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nathCCraneig wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:08 pm Can’t be POA as you’re responsible for the load while the mixer is still turning.
fair point, but by the same context, does that mean I can't use POA or break when my fridge is running?
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Bill-informer wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:08 pm
nathCCraneig wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:08 pm Can’t be POA as you’re responsible for the load while the mixer is still turning.
fair point, but by the same context, does that mean I can't use POA or break when my fridge is running?
I think the fridge is ok as there’s no external moving parts.
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nathCCraneig wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:08 pm
Bill-informer wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:08 pm
nathCCraneig wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:08 pm Can’t be POA as you’re responsible for the load while the mixer is still turning.
fair point, but by the same context, does that mean I can't use POA or break when my fridge is running?
I think the fridge is ok as there’s no external moving parts.
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Other work however you can put poa if you have be told prior
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