so don't winge then - simple....AndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:14 pmwell I am out of the industry for good doing something else with my lifeshelle_yeo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:13 pm Another way to look at it you don’t have a driver cpc you don’t have a job simples we do ours in our own time and company pays for it this also includes lunch. Our company does make sure all the drivers are free on the days that they would like booked for it.
My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
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jamessi wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:21 pmso don't winge then - simple....AndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:14 pmwell I am out of the industry for good doing something else with my lifeshelle_yeo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:13 pm Another way to look at it you don’t have a driver cpc you don’t have a job simples we do ours in our own time and company pays for it this also includes lunch. Our company does make sure all the drivers are free on the days that they would like booked for it.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
I pay for my drivers’ CPC courses and also pay them for their time doing them.
I have a rewards system in place where shifts worked accrue points that can be redeemed for a day of driver CPC training or an annual payment if they have gotten their hours externally.
A couple of days of them working covers the costs, it’s no big deal.
I have a rewards system in place where shifts worked accrue points that can be redeemed for a day of driver CPC training or an annual payment if they have gotten their hours externally.
A couple of days of them working covers the costs, it’s no big deal.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
we do the same just no overtime.RJee2914 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:24 pm I pay for my drivers’ CPC courses and also pay them for their time doing them.
I have a rewards system in place where shifts worked accrue points that can be redeemed for a day of driver CPC training or an annual payment if they have gotten their hours externally.
A couple of days of them working covers the costs, it’s no big deal.
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that's fairRJee2914 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:24 pm I pay for my drivers’ CPC courses and also pay them for their time doing them.
I have a rewards system in place where shifts worked accrue points that can be redeemed for a day of driver CPC training or an annual payment if they have gotten their hours externally.
A couple of days of them working covers the costs, it’s no big deal.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
exactly how it should be done imoRJee2914 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:24 pm I pay for my drivers’ CPC courses and also pay them for their time doing them.
I have a rewards system in place where shifts worked accrue points that can be redeemed for a day of driver CPC training or an annual payment if they have gotten their hours externally.
A couple of days of them working covers the costs, it’s no big deal.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Depends if they are paying for the course
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
They book them then offer you to do them if you want. That is the loophole.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
If your company pays you to attend training it must be recorded as working time so honest compliant companies won’t pay as it could affect your average working time over the reference period and also affect weekly rest. As said by others it is the drivers qualification and their responsibility to keep it up to date so just be grateful when a company is willing to pay the cost of the course.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
honest reliable companies like Asda, Tesco, Sainsbury, DHL, BCA and so on ???? No cpc no driver is another way of looking at it!dusDarrem wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:31 pm If your company pays you to attend training it must be recorded as working time so honest compliant companies won’t pay as it could affect your average working time over the reference period and also affect weekly rest. As said by others it is the drivers qualification and their responsibility to keep it up to date so just be grateful when a company is willing to pay the cost of the course.
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Put yourself in the position of the employer and ask your self that ?
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
If it was done over the weekend regardless if there paying isn’t that classed as actual work and is against a drivers weekly rest period
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
only way it goes against your working hours is if they instruct you to attend on a set time and day. If they offer to pay and it is the drivers choice to do it then no. The driver can say they don't want to do it but if the company is paying for a card they take with them if they leave they would be better accepting that. Some companies don't even pay for it.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
agreedIainto wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:41 pmonly way it goes against your working hours is if they instruct you to attend on a set time and day. If they offer to pay and it is the drivers choice to do it then no. The driver can say they don't want to do it but if the company is paying for a card they take with them if they leave they would be better accepting that. Some companies don't even pay for it.
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Its your card. Your licence. Your responsibility.
If the business you work for puts you through it while meant to be working count yourself very fortunate.
If the business you work for puts you through it while meant to be working count yourself very fortunate.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
My view is...you need a CPC to do your job. So you get it done, you pay for it. Same for a DBS if it's required. Now if the company is nice and pays for it, you do it in their terms. Tough life.
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
well I left the business for good so no more cpc for me I joined the church instead
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
happy it works for you!AndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:43 pmwell I left the business for good so no more cpc for me I joined the church instead
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you don’t believe in cpc’s but you believe in a fictional character whom you are prepared to give up Sundays for by going to church and probably pay for itAndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:43 pmwell I left the business for good so no more cpc for me I joined the church instead
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I go church every Sunday that's what Sundays are about my old company wanted me to do a cpc course on Sunday I said noMowis.Dean wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:44 pmyou don’t believe in cpc’s but you believe in a fictional character whom you are prepared to give up Sundays for by going to church and probably pay for itAndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:43 pmwell I left the business for good so no more cpc for me I joined the church instead
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
cpcs are real, god isn’tAndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:44 pmI go church every Sunday that's what Sundays are about my old company wanted me to do a cpc course on Sunday I said noMowis.Dean wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:44 pmyou don’t believe in cpc’s but you believe in a fictional character whom you are prepared to give up Sundays for by going to church and probably pay for itAndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:43 pm
well I left the business for good so no more cpc for me I joined the church instead
Wise up man
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
brilliant!!! The story book winsMowis.Dean wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:45 pmcpcs are real, god isn’tAndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:44 pmI go church every Sunday that's what Sundays are about my old company wanted me to do a cpc course on Sunday I said noMowis.Dean wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:44 pm
you don’t believe in cpc’s but you believe in a fictional character whom you are prepared to give up Sundays for by going to church and probably pay for it
Wise up man
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Nokirko.vash wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:46 pmbrilliant!!! The story book winsMowis.Dean wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:45 pmcpcs are real, god isn’tAndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:44 pm
I go church every Sunday that's what Sundays are about my old company wanted me to do a cpc course on Sunday I said no
Wise up man
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AndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:47 pmNo
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100 percent love itANDNNEE wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:43 pmhappy it works for you!AndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:43 pmwell I left the business for good so no more cpc for me I joined the church instead
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Right all I am going out for a curry see you all soon byeANDNNEE wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:43 pmhappy it works for you!AndryUrman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:43 pmwell I left the business for good so no more cpc for me I joined the church instead
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Any company that pays for the CPC is going over and above as it's the drivers responsibility to ensure that they have a valid CPC. So if it's offered and all you have to do is attend then take it. Drivers don't know what companies have to do nowadays to pay the bills..
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
They dont have to pay for your course, nor your time doing the course. I pay my drivers and usually just find a quiet day when they’re not needed. Helps with retention
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
I don't get paid plus I have to pay 60 for the pleasure
But you get a beer
But you get a beer
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
So take a holiday or unpaid leave, find a training provider and fund the qualification held by yourself by yourself… No pleasing some folk
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
If they’re paying for course, suck it up.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Cpc classes count as duty time therefore they have to pay you to attend
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
not true my friend. Loophole that a lot of companies use is to give you the choice.kingid wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:59 pmyour company have brain washed you mate it's duty time therefore you must be paid
To be honest I’m glad they pay for the course and I don’t have to 8 hours a year of my time For a Cpc I can taken anywhere.
There are lots of firms that pay the course fees but not the drivers time.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
I've worked for 5 different companies and insisted they pay me as I'm on duty every one have paid for my training and days pay you just got to be firm with them and point out the facts good luck with your boss you can give them my details if they try it onjasoniz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:59 pmnot true my friend. Loophole that a lot of companies use is to give you the choice.
To be honest I’m glad they pay for the course and I don’t have to 8 hours a year of my time For a Cpc I can taken anywhere.
There are lots of firms that pay the course fees but not the drivers time.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
No need, All our guys appreciate the other things company do for them. Family friendly duties. Decent above average annual payrises. Staff days out all paid for by the company.kingid wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:00 pmI've worked for 5 different companies and insisted they pay me as I'm on duty every one have paid for my training and days pay you just got to be firm with them and point out the facts good luck with your boss you can give them my details if they try it onjasoniz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:59 pmnot true my friend. Loophole that a lot of companies use is to give you the choice.
To be honest I’m glad they pay for the course and I don’t have to 8 hours a year of my time For a Cpc I can taken anywhere.
There are lots of firms that pay the course fees but not the drivers time.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
should be true but sadly isn’tkingid wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:00 pmI've worked for 5 different companies and insisted they pay me as I'm on duty every one have paid for my training and days pay you just got to be firm with them and point out the facts good luck with your boss you can give them my details if they try it onjasoniz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:59 pmnot true my friend. Loophole that a lot of companies use is to give you the choice.
To be honest I’m glad they pay for the course and I don’t have to 8 hours a year of my time For a Cpc I can taken anywhere.
There are lots of firms that pay the course fees but not the drivers time.
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
If you are told you must attend then it is other work and a manual entry must be made on your tachograph card you then will have to take your weekly break - or did you work on Monday?
If DVSA would have caught you they would have fined up and parked you up until you had sufficient break.
If DVSA would have caught you they would have fined up and parked you up until you had sufficient break.
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
If they pay for the course for you Right
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
should NOT be allowed to post just striring stuff up. And by the way the company doesn't have to pay for it. It's the drivers legal responsibility to get it completed not the company.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Are they paying for the course for the staff ?
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
CPV is yours not the companys it goes with you wherever you work a lot of companies do them for free but you have to do in your time Fair deal I think
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Your licence your responsibility
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
If they pay you it counts towards you’re working time
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
If you are driving the other 5 days then shouldn’t being doing it anyway!!
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
We pay for the course but not the time to sit it
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
The company I work for pay for the course but not for us to attend.
We are ok with that because at least we don't have to pay for it ourselves and attend without getting paid so it softens the blow.
We are ok with that because at least we don't have to pay for it ourselves and attend without getting paid so it softens the blow.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
And yes it is done at the weekend.
We are asked if we are available and would like to go.
We are asked if we are available and would like to go.
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Wow!! How many people don't realise it's actually the licence holder's responsibility to keep and update their DCPC, just because you've been lucky enough to have been at a company that organisers and probably pays for the course doesn't mean you are entitled to be paid, would you give up a day of your holiday every year? You could be paid then
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
It's meant to be on the job training
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
If you get paid for it you have to declare as other work, I do the same, pay for the course but not for the time, messes with working time otherwise. Some people don't realise when they are well off, some employers don't even pay for the course or allow time off for it.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Your licence, your responsibility. It’s part of having your licence and not your employers responsibility, the same as your medical.
If your employer is kind enough to pay for any of the courses, time or both then be grateful, especially if it’s both!
If your employer is kind enough to pay for any of the courses, time or both then be grateful, especially if it’s both!
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
We pay for cpc and it's a paid working day, same as any other. Rest is rest, other work is work.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
When else should you be doing it for FREE, it’s not compulsory go sit pay for it on a week night , Should be on drivers forum.
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Its drivers responsibility to get cpc so if they pay for that you’re luckier than some!
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
If the company pay you to attend I am pretty sure that counts against your wtd hours ???!!!
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Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Correct. Why should they pay you ? It’s your qualification
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
My staff pay for their own it’s their lic no cpc no job simple. I used to pay for it then one driver left 5 weeks after so won’t get bitten twice
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Can’t drive without it. Check your contract as to who is responsible. Me personally i do it myself in my own time.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
It is the drivers responsibility to make sure he has the licences to do the job entailed , you wouldn't pull ADR without a licence , so if you company pays for your very lucky .
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
The only issue you have is CPC class as 7 hrs of other work, so you need to take a rest day before or after, and make up your break by the end of the 3rd week.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
My view is any decent company will pay for the course and pay you to attend.
However, they don't have to do either.
However, they don't have to do either.
Re: My old company I use to work for do there CPC courses at weekends and they don't paye you for it right or wrong?
Why should they pay ? And why should you care ?
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