I've always been under the impression that road sweepers are o licence exempt. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

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pafdisques
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I've always been under the impression that road sweepers are o licence exempt. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

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I've always been under the impression that road sweepers are o licence exempt. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Surely a road sweeper is plant machinery rather than a goods vehicle.
Certainly ran on red diesel although that is coming to an end for construction plant operations.
pafdisques
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mradamski80 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:13 pm Yes, they are wheeled Plant.
So they don't need to go onto an o licence even though it sweeps roads for hire/reward? I've always thought they were exempt but a CPC training guy told me different so just wanted to get your thoughts
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pafdisques wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:14 pm So they don't need to go onto an o licence even though it sweeps roads for hire/reward? I've always thought they were exempt but a CPC training guy told me different so just wanted to get your thoughts
would you put a loader/backhoe on an operator's licence? They also go out for hire and reward.
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pafdisques wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:14 pm So they don't need to go onto an o licence even though it sweeps roads for hire/reward? I've always thought they were exempt but a CPC training guy told me different so just wanted to get your thoughts
no, they should not be on the O licence because they are Wheeled Plant.
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mradamski80 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:13 pm Yes, they are wheeled Plant.
so would you get them PMI’s? As you don’t have JCB’s inspected
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KevC wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:15 pm so would you get them PMI’s? As you don’t have JCB’s inspected
I think it would be wise to have them PMI'd. However since there is no licence requirement, you operate them as you would a 'Grey Fleet'. So, if you already have a licence for other vehicles, the TC / DVSA would expect you to act responsibly and demonstrate all your vehicles are checked and maintained to a high standard - because you know better.
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mradamski80 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:16 pm I think it would be wise to have them PMI'd. However since there is no licence requirement, you operate them as you would a 'Grey Fleet'. So, if you already have a licence for other vehicles, the TC / DVSA would expect you to act responsibly and demonstrate all your vehicles are checked and maintained to a high standard - because you know better.
I agree, it was just a curious question, I have an operator that uses sweepers and flatbeds, all are PMI’d
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Whilst discussing wheeled plant Road going dumpers and road going tractors and their trailers also go on O licences ! They are plant too but unless a works truck which rarely is the case for the dumpers or limited weekly mileage then on they go if overv3.5t too
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divalan wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:17 pm Whilst discussing wheeled plant Road going dumpers and road going tractors and their trailers also go on O licences ! They are plant too but unless a works truck which rarely is the case for the dumpers or limited weekly mileage then on they go if overv3.5t too
Could you put in some punctuation! Are we saying there is a weight at which a dump truck (Works truck) automatically becomes a gods vehicle and so goes not the licence? I think your suggesting dumper trucks (Works truck rather than goods vehicle) and road going tractors (Are these agricultural which have lots of exemptions) and trailers (agricultural trailed appliance or agricultural trailers or perhaps fuel bowsers), seems you're saying the must go on the O licence? In some circumstances they MIGHT but not MUST go on a licence.
As moist dump trucks are named by what they carry rather than GVW, and even a quite small agricultural tractor can GTW over 3.5t?
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