I don't think it's a good idea with people going straight to class 1 and to be fair I would like to see the age

[Densyc]

Good job they didn't use your example during the two world wars... it's ok to send a 17yr old off, with a gun in his hand but a 20yr old isn't mature enough to drive a large vehicle?

to be fair thats not a job for the kids

They were still sent though..

But does that make it right

[Wildale1990]

How I did mine....30 years ago.

[Parrie]

You haven’t said why you think it’s a bad idea? Perhaps you could give it a bit of thought as you fly out to Tenerife after months of 60 hour weeks being flown by someone significantly younger than 25 and guess what they can’t even drive a car!

[alexano88]

You haven’t said why you think it’s a bad idea? Perhaps you could give it a bit of thought as you fly out to Tenerife after months of 60 hour weeks being flown by someone significantly younger than 25 and guess what they can’t even drive a car!

they don't jump straight to an Airbus A380-800 the morning after 1 test either....

[rimmut]

You haven’t said why you think it’s a bad idea? Perhaps you could give it a bit of thought as you fly out to Tenerife after months of 60 hour weeks being flown by someone significantly younger than 25 and guess what they can’t even drive a car!

they don't jump straight to an Airbus A380-800 the morning after 1 test either....

good thing to. A380 would cause mayhem on the freeway

[rimmut]

You haven’t said why you think it’s a bad idea? Perhaps you could give it a bit of thought as you fly out to Tenerife after months of 60 hour weeks being flown by someone significantly younger than 25 and guess what they can’t even drive a car!

based off the arguments against it on here. It makes you wounded who's causing all the current and previous accidents since 18 year old not currently allowed to drive.

[Johnicx]

Most people here in Canada go straight into class 1 , you can do it at 18 years old.

[Sykesse]

I'm 20 and Class 1... I've never caused damage or injury to any thing or any one.
Waiting around in the holding bays in Lidl RDC's, you see some extremely incompetent drivers that are far older than 25, all of which I'm willing to bet I could get on a bay with fewer shunts.

[Penroxe]

Rigid for at least 6 months before the artic imo

[Djanio]

Most of the young ones are company owners kids of which were driving wagons on farms and private yards as soon as they could reach pedals only risk is being young and impulsive which we all have been at some point

[darreno]

Don't be a knob ffs man and get out of your own ass.. It ain't that bloody hard and if they ain't competent they won't pass, simple as really!
I've worked in many industries and 1 of the hardest was a gas engineer, you need serious skills and competence to do that job and I've seen some excellent very young gas engineers.. Age has nothing to do with it.

[dicrenn]

I'm not so sure that age matters, if the driver is competent and not reckless, however I do believe that drivers should be taller than 4 foot, as I saw one on Friday that was so small, he could only just see over his MAN huge steering wheel. I laughed so hard, I almost shat myself and that can't be safe whilst driving.

[jasoniz]

I'm not so sure that age matters, if the driver is competent and not reckless, however I do believe that drivers should be taller than 4 foot, as I saw one on Friday that was so small, he could only just see over his MAN huge steering wheel. I laughed so hard, I almost shat myself and that can't be safe whilst driving.

is there ever a safe time to shit yourself?

[dicrenn]

I'm not so sure that age matters, if the driver is competent and not reckless, however I do believe that drivers should be taller than 4 foot, as I saw one on Friday that was so small, he could only just see over his MAN huge steering wheel. I laughed so hard, I almost shat myself and that can't be safe whilst driving.

is there ever a safe time to shit yourself?

maybe on a Friday when you know the pants are now a week old and due for changing.

[Rhysis14]

I'm not so sure that age matters, if the driver is competent and not reckless, however I do believe that drivers should be taller than 4 foot, as I saw one on Friday that was so small, he could only just see over his MAN huge steering wheel. I laughed so hard, I almost shat myself and that can't be safe whilst driving.

your right. Shitting yourself and letting strange things distract you to that extent isn't safe. Good job the younger generation are coming on board to show you how its done.

[dicrenn]

I'm not so sure that age matters, if the driver is competent and not reckless, however I do believe that drivers should be taller than 4 foot, as I saw one on Friday that was so small, he could only just see over his MAN huge steering wheel. I laughed so hard, I almost shat myself and that can't be safe whilst driving.

your right. Shitting yourself and letting strange things distract you to that extent isn't safe. Good job the younger generation are coming on board to show you how its done.

there are no age limits to soiling oneself. I remember being in Roxys nightclub back in the 80,s and I'd had one too many sherberts, and before I could sing the chorus to Don't You Want Me Baby, I had shat down the leg of a Cyndy Lauper lookalike.

[JonBox]

Lorry drivers licences should be removed permanently at 55 in case they have a heart attack. Move over old man

[barrillo]

Lorry drivers licences should be removed permanently at 55 in case they have a heart attack. Move over old man

we have to stay working due to the lightweights coming thru today

[JonBox]

Lorry drivers licences should be removed permanently at 55 in case they have a heart attack. Move over old man

we have to stay working due to the lightweights coming thru today

I'm 55. Just taking the pee. Started driving on the roads legally in an artic at 18 on a car licence in England my sons have started at 18 too but took their class c test first

[barrillo]

Lorry drivers licences should be removed permanently at 55 in case they have a heart attack. Move over old man

we have to stay working due to the lightweights coming thru today

I'm 55. Just taking the pee. Started driving on the roads legally in an artic at 18 on a car licence in England my sons have started at 18 too but took their class c test first

yeh I know mate. I was driving me dads tankers around at 14 when no one was looking you could get away with going with the old man back then. Happy days. Firm I’m on for took an 18 year old on with a class one cracking lad moved onto better things after a year or two

[Andyno]

Lorry drivers licences should be removed permanently at 55 in case they have a heart attack. Move over old man

congrats you've just retired about 50% of drivers what's next on your master plan?

[barrillo]

I went straight to class one at 21 in 88. When trucks had a lot more to deal with and nothing more than the odd scrapped step. The accident rate has risen since they introduced class two first

[JonBox]

I went straight to class one at 21 in 88. When trucks had a lot more to deal with and nothing more than the odd scrapped step. The accident rate has risen since they introduced class two first

the difference is that there is more traffic on the roads people are less courteous and most learnt to drive in India

[barrillo]

I went straight to class one at 21 in 88. When trucks had a lot more to deal with and nothing more than the odd scrapped step. The accident rate has risen since they introduced class two first

the difference is that there is more traffic on the roads people are less courteous and most learnt to drive in India

the trucks are much safer you don’t have to deal with map reading just follow the prat nav, crash boxes shit power steering, steering wheels the size of roundabouts exhaust brakes crap mirrors no ABS Yes I love modern trucks but back then all of the above counters your more traffic

[JonBox]

I went straight to class one at 21 in 88. When trucks had a lot more to deal with and nothing more than the odd scrapped step. The accident rate has risen since they introduced class two first

the difference is that there is more traffic on the roads people are less courteous and most learnt to drive in India

the trucks are much safer you don’t have to deal with map reading just follow the prat nav, crash boxes shit power steering, steering wheels the size of roundabouts exhaust brakes crap mirrors no ABS Yes I love modern trucks but back then all of the above counters your more traffic

you forgot trying to park near a phone box to organize your next load

[barrillo]

the difference is that there is more traffic on the roads people are less courteous and most learnt to drive in India

the trucks are much safer you don’t have to deal with map reading just follow the prat nav, crash boxes shit power steering, steering wheels the size of roundabouts exhaust brakes crap mirrors no ABS Yes I love modern trucks but back then all of the above counters your more traffic

you forgot trying to park near a phone box to organize your next load

haha yep forgot about that or phone cards for various countries abroad. Don’t forget lodgings ( bit before my time that one ) night heater where a luxury too . Spread axle trailers, 20ft skellys with no neck had to watch ur self worth those buggers no sudden turning with them. trailers that rarely ran in a straight line

[JonBox]

the trucks are much safer you don’t have to deal with map reading just follow the prat nav, crash boxes shit power steering, steering wheels the size of roundabouts exhaust brakes crap mirrors no ABS Yes I love modern trucks but back then all of the above counters your more traffic

you forgot trying to park near a phone box to organize your next load

haha yep forgot about that or phone cards for various countries abroad. Don’t forget lodgings ( bit before my time that one ) night heater where a luxury too . Spread axle trailers, 20ft skellys with no neck had to watch ur self worth those buggers no sudden turning with them. trailers that rarely ran in a straight line

the French phone boxes you used to fill tubes with coins that rattled in like a machine gun

[barrillo]

you forgot trying to park near a phone box to organize your next load

haha yep forgot about that or phone cards for various countries abroad. Don’t forget lodgings ( bit before my time that one ) night heater where a luxury too . Spread axle trailers, 20ft skellys with no neck had to watch ur self worth those buggers no sudden turning with them. trailers that rarely ran in a straight line

the French phone boxes you used to fill tubes with coins that rattled in like a machine gun

back then I didn’t do much France was just a transit country lol. Greece, Italy, Spain was always the destination wasn’t till mid 90s started with France and Benelux etc. and by then cab phones was common place but locked to just the office and bosses mobile

[Aleinco]

Been on buses 4 years just passed C+E first time without doing Class 2, oh and I'm 24 btw.

[JohnGuy]

My son just passed first time and is
Nearly 50 lol

[AlaFizz]

Do same as motorbike

[StrayHoly]

I've just taken class1 without doing the 2, I have been driving coaches for the last 28 plus years though, and I'm 59

[abdish]

I’m doing the HGV boot camp course through the government and you get trained on a class 2 then move on to a class 1 to give more experience.

[devonor]

I’m doing the HGV boot camp course through the government and you get trained on a class 2 then move on to a class 1 to give more experience.

My understanding is that you do the training but then they put you in a job and you have to accept it, even if the pay is awful. Is that correct?

[abdish]

I’m doing the HGV boot camp course through the government and you get trained on a class 2 then move on to a class 1 to give more experience.

My understanding is that you do the training but then they put you in a job and you have to accept it, even if the pay is awful. Is that correct?

so in relation to the course I’m doing at the end of the course once both classes are passed they line up 2 interviews with employers, you don’t have to take it if you don’t want it.

[Coopen]

I’m doing the HGV boot camp course through the government and you get trained on a class 2 then move on to a class 1 to give more experience.

My understanding is that you do the training but then they put you in a job and you have to accept it, even if the pay is awful. Is that correct?

my provider are trying to force me into a job of their choosing for 2 years!!
Cheeky fks the government are paying for it not them!

[devonor]

I’m doing the HGV boot camp course through the government and you get trained on a class 2 then move on to a class 1 to give more experience.

My understanding is that you do the training but then they put you in a job and you have to accept it, even if the pay is awful. Is that correct?

my provider are trying to force me into a job of their choosing for 2 years!!
Cheeky fks the government are paying for it not them!

this is what I was confronted with. I'd already paid for my class 2 and class 1 tests before the law changed but then I saw that I could get ADR training for free so I enquired about it and one of the conditions was that you take whatever job they put you in. So naturally I decided against it.
I have managed to get a really good job anyway, starting next month, so I'm no longer interested in ADR for the time being.

[Coopen]

My understanding is that you do the training but then they put you in a job and you have to accept it, even if the pay is awful. Is that correct?

my provider are trying to force me into a job of their choosing for 2 years!!
Cheeky fks the government are paying for it not them!

this is what I was confronted with. I'd already paid for my class 2 and class 1 tests before the law changed but then I saw that I could get ADR training for free so I enquired about it and one of the conditions was that you take whatever job they put you in. So naturally I decided against it.
I have managed to get a really good job anyway, starting next month, so I'm no longer interested in ADR for the time being.

I spoke to a guy at the place I’m potentially training with, he advised me to keep my mouth shut until I get my licence & then deal with the fall out after. In his words “they can’t remove the category off your licence once you have it!”

[devonor]

my provider are trying to force me into a job of their choosing for 2 years!!
Cheeky fks the government are paying for it not them!

this is what I was confronted with. I'd already paid for my class 2 and class 1 tests before the law changed but then I saw that I could get ADR training for free so I enquired about it and one of the conditions was that you take whatever job they put you in. So naturally I decided against it.
I have managed to get a really good job anyway, starting next month, so I'm no longer interested in ADR for the time being.

I spoke to a guy at the place I’m potentially training with, he advised me to keep my mouth shut until I get my licence & then deal with the fall out after. In his words “they can’t remove the category off your licence once you have it!”

so long as you're not signing a bond of some kind.
Any bus company will take you on and train you (that's how I got my PCV licence) but they'll typically put you on a three year bond and you'll have to pay back a percentage of the training if you leave the company early.

[Coopen]

this is what I was confronted with. I'd already paid for my class 2 and class 1 tests before the law changed but then I saw that I could get ADR training for free so I enquired about it and one of the conditions was that you take whatever job they put you in. So naturally I decided against it.
I have managed to get a really good job anyway, starting next month, so I'm no longer interested in ADR for the time being.

I spoke to a guy at the place I’m potentially training with, he advised me to keep my mouth shut until I get my licence & then deal with the fall out after. In his words “they can’t remove the category off your licence once you have it!”

so long as you're not signing a bond of some kind.
Any bus company will take you on and train you (that's how I got my PCV licence) but they'll typically put you on a three year bond and you'll have to pay back a percentage of the training if you leave the company early.

to be honest, I’m more than happy paying for the training, I just have no physical way of footing the bill up front. My credit rating is shot & I’ve no means to borrow it from anyone.
Doing it this way means they’ll ask me for the money back & Il just pay a bit of my wages back when in a different job!

[Damput]

I’m doing the HGV boot camp course through the government and you get trained on a class 2 then move on to a class 1 to give more experience.

not quite right.
Skills Bootcamp providers offer to train you as part of DfE contract then they will support new / novice drivers into jobs they may not be able to get themselves as individuals.
No one can make a driver take a job!! This is 2022 not 1900s.
If you don’t want our support then don’t apply for funded training and our experience to support new drivers, there are plenty of providers that will happily take your 5-6k+ from you to get your licence and leave you at that point..

[abdish]

I’m doing the HGV boot camp course through the government and you get trained on a class 2 then move on to a class 1 to give more experience.

not quite right.
Skills Bootcamp providers offer to train you as part of DfE contract then they will support new / novice drivers into jobs they may not be able to get themselves as individuals.
No one can make a driver take a job!! This is 2022 not 1900s.
If you don’t want our support then don’t apply for funded training and our experience to support new drivers, there are plenty of providers that will happily take your 5-6k+ from you to get your licence and leave you at that point..

what on earth are you on about, what part of my comment said that I didn’t want the support, I was simply replying to the person who put the post up about people going straight into class 1?

[Damput]

I’m doing the HGV boot camp course through the government and you get trained on a class 2 then move on to a class 1 to give more experience.

not quite right.
Skills Bootcamp providers offer to train you as part of DfE contract then they will support new / novice drivers into jobs they may not be able to get themselves as individuals.
No one can make a driver take a job!! This is 2022 not 1900s.
If you don’t want our support then don’t apply for funded training and our experience to support new drivers, there are plenty of providers that will happily take your 5-6k+ from you to get your licence and leave you at that point..

what on earth are you on about, what part of my comment said that I didn’t want the support, I was simply replying to the person who put the post up about people going straight into class 1?

apologies comment was Devonor..
Skills Bootcamp is unbelievably great opportunity for new entrants into Logistics sector..

[abdish]

not quite right.
Skills Bootcamp providers offer to train you as part of DfE contract then they will support new / novice drivers into jobs they may not be able to get themselves as individuals.
No one can make a driver take a job!! This is 2022 not 1900s.
If you don’t want our support then don’t apply for funded training and our experience to support new drivers, there are plenty of providers that will happily take your 5-6k+ from you to get your licence and leave you at that point..

what on earth are you on about, what part of my comment said that I didn’t want the support, I was simply replying to the person who put the post up about people going straight into class 1?

apologies comment was Devonor..
Skills Bootcamp is unbelievably great opportunity for new entrants into Logistics sector..

oh fair enough, sorry it’s because you replied to me.
Fair enough

[devonor]

what on earth are you on about, what part of my comment said that I didn’t want the support, I was simply replying to the person who put the post up about people going straight into class 1?

apologies comment was Devonor..
Skills Bootcamp is unbelievably great opportunity for new entrants into Logistics sector..

oh fair enough, sorry it’s because you replied to me.
Fair enough

again, what on earth are you talking about? I didn't do the bootcamp, I paid for it myself. And I paid £3k not the ridiculous made up figure you quoted.
I was simply asking the question or of curiosity because I'd heard that they put you in to a job, and that they're spectacularly underpaid.

[Tonyon]

One of the best guys I know passed his class1 at 18
Kane he’s a great driver and very mature despite his years. I believe it’s more about the person than their age!! I’ve seen guys in there 50’s that I wouldn’t trust with a pushbike that have a class1 license

[Broods]

How are soldiers gunna drive trucks if its 25 years old lol

[palyco]

Basically what the OP is saying is he shouldn’t have or should not be allowed to pass from car to class 1 or before the age of 15 because he isn’t/wasn’t confident enough or safe enough so no one else will be

[rochco]

Do you need a license for an artic ??
Thought my cat C covered it

[Muslumex]

Do you need a license for an artic ??
Thought my cat C covered it

Ffs I've been driving class 1 for 3 years, passed my class 2, then 3 weeks later passed my class 1, it's the one and only time I've ever driven Class 2 and probably won't ever Drive Class 2. So I spent £1,500 just for the privilege to take my class 1. Rules are for better now....
I'm just waiting for all them legal firms that used to do PPI claims, to get my class 2 money back....

[devonor]

Do you need a license for an artic ??
Thought my cat C covered it

Ffs I've been driving class 1 for 3 years, passed my class 2, then 3 weeks later passed my class 1, it's the one and only time I've ever driven Class 2 and probably won't ever Drive Class 2. So I spent £1,500 just for the privilege to take my class 1. Rules are for better now....
I'm just waiting for all them legal firms that used to do PPI claims, to get my class 2 money back....

I felt the same when the announcement came.
I paid out to do two separate tests. Total waste of money considering I've been driving buses and coaches for 18 years and the class 2 vehicle that I did my lessons and test in was much smaller than the double decker's that I've driven for most of my working life.
Then, as I was still waiting for dates to do my class 1, which I had paid handsomely for, others out there were already starting their free training!

[JonBox]

Do you need a license for an artic ??
Thought my cat C covered it

Ffs I've been driving class 1 for 3 years, passed my class 2, then 3 weeks later passed my class 1, it's the one and only time I've ever driven Class 2 and probably won't ever Drive Class 2. So I spent £1,500 just for the privilege to take my class 1. Rules are for better now....
I'm just waiting for all them legal firms that used to do PPI claims, to get my class 2 money back....

I felt the same when the announcement came.
I paid out to do two separate tests. Total waste of money considering I've been driving buses and coaches for 18 years and the class 2 vehicle that I did my lessons and test in was much smaller than the double decker's that I've driven for most of my working life.
Then, as I was still waiting for dates to do my class 1, which I had paid handsomely for, others out there were already starting their free training!

p m s L
Boris i want my class 2 money back

[Damput]

Do you need a license for an artic ??
Thought my cat C covered it

Ffs I've been driving class 1 for 3 years, passed my class 2, then 3 weeks later passed my class 1, it's the one and only time I've ever driven Class 2 and probably won't ever Drive Class 2. So I spent £1,500 just for the privilege to take my class 1. Rules are for better now....
I'm just waiting for all them legal firms that used to do PPI claims, to get my class 2 money back....

well said Muslumex; why take a category just to get to the next with no restrictions.
Sensible option back to what it used to be like (just no gears)

[Alanmo]

Do you need a license for an artic ??
Thought my cat C covered it

Ffs I've been driving class 1 for 3 years, passed my class 2, then 3 weeks later passed my class 1, it's the one and only time I've ever driven Class 2 and probably won't ever Drive Class 2. So I spent £1,500 just for the privilege to take my class 1. Rules are for better now....
I'm just waiting for all them legal firms that used to do PPI claims, to get my class 2 money back....

well said Muslumex; why take a category just to get to the next with no restrictions.
Sensible option back to what it used to be like (just no gears)

Aye am the same... a would say 80 % maybe more of hgv 1 driver will never have used there class 2

[Cezarel]

Perhaps he could not pass until he was an oldy and finds it really hard

[maysur]

Before 1997 is was the norm to go straight to class 1, so I don't see an issue with it. Also, it seems most training centres aren't putting people straight into a class 1 anyway, they're doing a day or 2 in class 2 before getting into the big boys.

[Damput]

Training providers are looking at road safety options and how to progress their learners as quickly as possible; but always safety first.
Our trucks are our lively hood and need to keep them on the road in one piece..

[Yaniell]

I think you should get half rate an hour because you in your truck not working but you are still at work and you can go home to your family and you should have something to show for your dedication and time away from your wife and kids like me

[garrmy]

Behave yourself

[garrmy]

The straight to class one I agree with the age limit is stupid it hard enough to get hard working drivers as it is by time most would be 25 they would have settled down doing something else

[Conynex]

My work is based next to a training centre and people doing the direct access still hve to so the same amount of hours training in a class 2 and class 1 just only the 1 test at the end. So there still doing the exact same training as of doing both class 2 and 1.

[Coopen]

Bold of you to make this post considering you were probably an adult when you could do your class 1 before even being able to drive!