So i work for a company, I'm on their books, I'm zero hour contract, I work average three days most weeks, I can say

[SwarHiro]

So i work for a company, I'm on their books, I'm zero hour contract, I work average three days most weeks, I can say no, but also so can they. The regular drivers are now getting a big payrise. They had an email informing them of said payrise. We on the other hand did not get the email and it seems, aren't getting the payrise. It seems being permanent staff is totally different to being part time. I've told them if they think I'm working for 10 quid an hour when most of the others are getting 14 they are off their rocker. Thoughts?
It seems now that they have added a clause, 14.50 paid only on the days you actually work, holidays paid at old rate of 10.72?

[LeoHear]

Find another job.

[SwarHiro]

Find another job.

it's 3 miles away, I know the ins and outs he hours suit me I'm comfortable there I have no desire to leave

[NigeMuch]

Find another job.

it's 3 miles away, I know the ins and outs he hours suit me I'm comfortable there I have no desire to leave

so it’s positives against negatives. It doesn’t look like your boss is going to make your money up so are the benefits worth the lower wage? If you think the boss will have trouble replacing you then talk to him, can’t hurt.
This is the whole problem with zero hour contracts and why they should be illegal. At least if you’re with an agency they’ll usually find you something else but it’s an unknown every day.

[LeoHear]

Find another job.

it's 3 miles away, I know the ins and outs he hours suit me I'm comfortable there I have no desire to leave

I would still find another job. Either you are happy with the way it is or you are not? If not, you put up with it or leave.

[yusulter40]

Stop moaning then. Seems to me you have 2 options, renegotiate you contract and be prepared to walk. Or put up with it. There has been so much bad press about zero hours contracts I'm surprised you didn't already realize you have no rights.

[BurnsFor]

Stop moaning then. Seems to me you have 2 options, renegotiate you contract and be prepared to walk. Or put up with it. There has been so much bad press about zero hours contracts I'm surprised you didn't already realize you have no rights.

of course he has rights

[yusulter40]

Stop moaning then. Seems to me you have 2 options, renegotiate you contract and be prepared to walk. Or put up with it. There has been so much bad press about zero hours contracts I'm surprised you didn't already realize you have no rights.

of course he has rights

i didn't mention a gender. Nor is it relevant surely.

[SwarHiro]

Stop moaning then. Seems to me you have 2 options, renegotiate you contract and be prepared to walk. Or put up with it. There has been so much bad press about zero hours contracts I'm surprised you didn't already realize you have no rights.

of course he has rights

i didn't mention a gender. Nor is it relevant surely.

[eddieMedi]

Know your own value, different job

[finnGrundy]

Leave..

[SimonoHi]

Leave..

wouldn't be able to come on whinging about it if they did that.

[finnGrundy]

Leave..

wouldn't be able to come on whinging about it if they did that.

we all like a moan.

[SimonoHi]

Leave..

wouldn't be able to come on whinging about it if they did that.

we all like a moan.

very true

[GrzeJolly]

Some agencies are offering amazing money right now

[olyserd44]

Some agencies are offering amazing money right now

Then after Christmas they’ll say ‘Bye Bye’.

[GrzeJolly]

Some agencies are offering amazing money right now

Then after Christmas they’ll say ‘Bye Bye’.

anything possible

[ciorrow221]

Been there you wont get a payrise just move on and find yourself a payrise

[JassFinal]

I think your off your rocker already working for £10 an hour

[AnthoChee]

leave simple you work in a office not driving a truck... you want a pay rise drive a truck like everyone else....

[SwarHiro]

leave simple you work in a office not driving a truck... you want a pay rise drive a truck like everyone else....

I am driving c1

[AnthoChee]

leave simple you work in a office not driving a truck... you want a pay rise drive a truck like everyone else....

I am driving c1

ahhh me bad... go else were then

[jodieBrody]

leave simple you work in a office not driving a truck... you want a pay rise drive a truck like everyone else....

I am driving c1

love how he just assume you worked in an office

[SwarHiro]

leave simple you work in a office not driving a truck... you want a pay rise drive a truck like everyone else....

I am driving c1

love how he just assume you worked in an office

yes exactly, why would I post in hgv group if I was an office worker

[mihaftexpe]

I am driving c1

love how he just assume you worked in an office

yes exactly, why would I post in hgv group if I was an office worker

I hope he reads his delivery notes more thoroughly.

[SwarHiro]

love how he just assume you worked in an office

yes exactly, why would I post in hgv group if I was an office worker

I hope he reads his delivery notes more thoroughly.

[TayBuzz]

Speak to your union

[SwarHiro]

Speak to your union

don't have one, tbh they don't have much clout anymore

[TayBuzz]

Speak to your union

don't have one, tbh they don't have much clout anymore

Only thing I can suggest is to threaten to leave with the other 3... hopefully they cannot afford to lose you... or just ask them direct. Be careful your employer doesn't see this post

[SwarHiro]

Speak to your union

don't have one, tbh they don't have much clout anymore

Only thing I can suggest is to threaten to leave with the other 3... hopefully they cannot afford to lose you... or just ask them direct. Be careful your employer doesn't see this post

believe me I will not be working for reduced wages, shame cos in every other way the job suits

[TayBuzz]

don't have one, tbh they don't have much clout anymore

Only thing I can suggest is to threaten to leave with the other 3... hopefully they cannot afford to lose you... or just ask them direct. Be careful your employer doesn't see this post

believe me I will not be working for reduced wages, shame cos in every other way the job suits

why not just get a job at agency 3 days a week?

[mattSpark]

U will get double that for 2 days a week atm

[emmHorray]

10h u need a new job anyways

[SpStocks]

they've shown you exactly how much they value you. You either sit down with them and show them how wrong they are and how much value you bring to the team and that you’re worthy of a raise, or you vote with your feet. If you stay on these terms you’re disrespecting yourself.

[SwarHiro]

they've shown you exactly how much they value you. You either sit down with them and show them how wrong they are and how much value you bring to the team and that you’re worthy of a raise, or you vote with your feet. If you stay on these terms you’re disrespecting yourself.

I send a message to transport manager saying he exactly where I stand his reply was defensive to say the least, I'm sure I will have to walk, sadly the job itself suits me rather well

[EllerDoom]

they've shown you exactly how much they value you. You either sit down with them and show them how wrong they are and how much value you bring to the team and that you’re worthy of a raise, or you vote with your feet. If you stay on these terms you’re disrespecting yourself.

I send a message to transport manager saying he exactly where I stand his reply was defensive to say the least, I'm sure I will have to walk, sadly the job itself suits me rather well

Life’s a bitch mate, we rarely get everything we want out of it.

[SwarHiro]

they've shown you exactly how much they value you. You either sit down with them and show them how wrong they are and how much value you bring to the team and that you’re worthy of a raise, or you vote with your feet. If you stay on these terms you’re disrespecting yourself.

I send a message to transport manager saying he exactly where I stand his reply was defensive to say the least, I'm sure I will have to walk, sadly the job itself suits me rather well

Life’s a bitch mate, we rarely get everything we want out of it.

I'll make sure they don't either

[licament51]

Why not walk into the office a talk to them instead of publishing it on social media. You’d get more respect from them am sure.

[SwarHiro]

Why not walk into the office a talk to them instead of publishing it on social media. You’d get more respect from them am sure.

I already have!! Reply was I'm not as Important as the full time staff, I wanted to see if it was just me, and why don't you just stroll on by without commenting if you have issue with my post!!!!

[KaroDay]

Why not walk into the office a talk to them instead of publishing it on social media. You’d get more respect from them am sure.

I already have!! Reply was I'm not as Important as the full time staff, I wanted to see if it was just me, and why don't you just stroll on by without commenting if you have issue with my post!!!!

we'll go and sign on with an agency that pays more money or go and find another haulage company that pays more, you shouldn't need to be told this.

[SwarHiro]

Why not walk into the office a talk to them instead of publishing it on social media. You’d get more respect from them am sure.

I already have!! Reply was I'm not as Important as the full time staff, I wanted to see if it was just me, and why don't you just stroll on by without commenting if you have issue with my post!!!!

we'll go and sign on with an agency that pays more money or go and find another haulage company that pays more, you shouldn't need to be told this.

my bad so sorry for taking up your precious time perhaps if you've nothing constructive to say you might consider scrolling on by and keeping your thoughts to yourself

[CaeLedger]

I already have!! Reply was I'm not as Important as the full time staff, I wanted to see if it was just me, and why don't you just stroll on by without commenting if you have issue with my post!!!!

we'll go and sign on with an agency that pays more money or go and find another haulage company that pays more, you shouldn't need to be told this.

my bad so sorry for taking up your precious time perhaps if you've nothing constructive to say you might consider scrolling on by and keeping your thoughts to yourself

is that £10ph on Class 1? If you're driving Class 1 on that rate then you need to seriously look elsewhere tbh

[KaroDay]

I already have!! Reply was I'm not as Important as the full time staff, I wanted to see if it was just me, and why don't you just stroll on by without commenting if you have issue with my post!!!!

we'll go and sign on with an agency that pays more money or go and find another haulage company that pays more, you shouldn't need to be told this.

my bad so sorry for taking up your precious time perhaps if you've nothing constructive to say you might consider scrolling on by and keeping your thoughts to yourself

in your earlier post you said your on there books, if so I'd be asking why your not being paid same as other drivers that are on there books, you must like working for very poor money but that's your choice or is it that they think that's all your worth and not worth paying full money.

[SwarHiro]

we'll go and sign on with an agency that pays more money or go and find another haulage company that pays more, you shouldn't need to be told this.

my bad so sorry for taking up your precious time perhaps if you've nothing constructive to say you might consider scrolling on by and keeping your thoughts to yourself

is that £10ph on Class 1? If you're driving Class 1 on that rate then you need to seriously look elsewhere tbh

sadly yes, I'm aware that it's pants rate but the job is three miles away and not long hours so suits me rather well

[iorijohn25]

Zero hours is nothing but a scam,

[Deivy2free]

14???

[SwarHiro]

14???

I know

[CaeLedger]

14???

I know

I'm on agency and drive 7.5T @16ph I work 4nights most week but I give agency my availability they just send me the shift timings

[geospee23]

Wait till they need you and ask them how much?
When they say £10 p/hr, tell them your busy elsewhere for £14 p/hr, they will soon up the rate

[japnote34]

Wait till they need you and ask them how much?
When they say £10 p/hr, tell them your busy elsewhere for £14 p/hr, they will soon up the rate

yeah you could do that alternatively you could say to them when they offer £10p/h “ok so that’s for stacking shelves now, what are you gonna give me as a professional driver?

[Ryantanell]

Depends what you want mate I’m on the same as you can’t remember last time I done five days or a Saturday I love it

[PeterGlitz]

You have the freedom to say no..
The staff don't really..
If you want part time go agency

[philipYoung]

You have the freedom to say no..
The staff don't really..
If you want part time go agency

She is doing the same job she needs the same rate plus holiday pay pro rata

[PeterGlitz]

You have the freedom to say no..
The staff don't really..
If you want part time go agency

She is doing the same job she needs the same rate plus holiday pay pro rata

with the freedoms of being able to say no??
So change jobs..
Get better terms
Apparently there is a shortage of drivers
Simple.

[PeterGlitz]

You have the freedom to say no..
The staff don't really..
If you want part time go agency

She is doing the same job she needs the same rate plus holiday pay pro rata

it does seem a strange set up

[edgaTins]

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[SwarHiro]

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thanks for that, although it probably only applies to minimum wage but a good starting ground x

[edgaTins]

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thanks for that, although it probably only applies to minimum wage but a good starting ground x

It reads an employer cannot discriminate against zero hours contract workers by paying paying less rhan staff on differing employment contracts, so to me it means they gotta pay you the same

[philipYoung]

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thanks for that, although it probably only applies to minimum wage but a good starting ground x

It reads an employer cannot discriminate against zero hours contract workers by paying paying less rhan staff on differing employment contracts, so to me it means they gotta pay you the same

Plus holiday pay

[SwarHiro]

thanks for that, although it probably only applies to minimum wage but a good starting ground x

It reads an employer cannot discriminate against zero hours contract workers by paying paying less rhan staff on differing employment contracts, so to me it means they gotta pay you the same

Plus holiday pay

so are they breaking the law by paying less when you're on holiday?

[philipYoung]

It reads an employer cannot discriminate against zero hours contract workers by paying paying less rhan staff on differing employment contracts, so to me it means they gotta pay you the same

Plus holiday pay

so are they breaking the law by paying less when you're on holiday?

We have a lady driver on the agency £17 Mon Fri £19 Sat £24 Sunday on fridge work only has to open the trailer doors.

[SwarHiro]

Plus holiday pay

so are they breaking the law by paying less when you're on holiday?

We have a lady driver on the agency £17 Mon Fri £19 Sat £24 Sunday on fridge work only has to open the trailer doors.

I need that job

[philipYoung]

so are they breaking the law by paying less when you're on holiday?

We have a lady driver on the agency £17 Mon Fri £19 Sat £24 Sunday on fridge work only has to open the trailer doors.

I need that job

She paid £400 in stoppages the other week

[philipYoung]

so are they breaking the law by paying less when you're on holiday?

We have a lady driver on the agency £17 Mon Fri £19 Sat £24 Sunday on fridge work only has to open the trailer doors.

I need that job

I wouldn't mind it myself but I don't want the hours

[philipYoung]

so are they breaking the law by paying less when you're on holiday?

We have a lady driver on the agency £17 Mon Fri £19 Sat £24 Sunday on fridge work only has to open the trailer doors.

I need that job

What's your job doing if you don't mind me asking

[SwarHiro]

We have a lady driver on the agency £17 Mon Fri £19 Sat £24 Sunday on fridge work only has to open the trailer doors.

I need that job

What's your job doing if you don't mind me asking

same

[ShugGood]

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i'd try calling acas, think they have a employees helpline to find out about weather your employer is breaking the law

[Deivy2free]

Why would you work for a company that pays 10 quid an hour, go to agency and they will keep you more busy for way more money, and you can choose what you work.

[ionutDeluxe]

Why would you work for a company that pays 10 quid an hour, go to agency and they will keep you more busy for way more money, and you can choose what you work.

and when you take time off. I've been agency since 2015 and it'll take a seriously attractive deal for me to accept any of the offers I've had from those for whom I work.

[NeriLorenz]

It’s as simple as this. If you don’t like it move on to another job. Don’t want to sound arsey but that’s the reality.

[SwarHiro]

It’s as simple as this. If you don’t like it move on to another job. Don’t want to sound arsey but that’s the reality.

you don't sound arsey, I like my job I'm comfortable with it but I can't see why I should do the same job as them for less money

[Deivy2free]

It’s as simple as this. If you don’t like it move on to another job. Don’t want to sound arsey but that’s the reality.

you don't sound arsey, I like my job I'm comfortable with it but I can't see why I should do the same job as them for less money

just ask question, if they say no then walk away.
But even then, really want 14 quid whilst there agencies paying way more. Obviously depending on your location and preference/ability to work

[NeriLorenz]

It’s as simple as this. If you don’t like it move on to another job. Don’t want to sound arsey but that’s the reality.

you don't sound arsey, I like my job I'm comfortable with it but I can't see why I should do the same job as them for less money

you shouldn’t, you do the same job and in my view you’re just as important as the “full time” staff. Think the owner is being a bit of a c**t tbh.

[ClauJan]

Loads work out in the market, stand by your guns.

[KellyMind]

This isn't the one that doesn't have a bog either is it?