So i work for a company, I'm on their books, I'm zero hour contract, I work average three days most weeks, I can say

[ownenzane]

Threaten em with ACAS

[philipYoung]

I am same as you but I get same as regular driver's plus £11.70 per shift holiday pay do tell them you are going, You are actually cheap agency to them so I would be on my way.

[HarrGato]

F**k them right off agencies are paying ridiculous money at the moment exploit it!

[ghuHeaven]

go on the agency

[tonyGlossy]

Pretty sure employers can't pay different rates to full time employed staff verses part time staff.
Speak to ACAS mate, Google acas and get their phone number, explain the issue and they will advise accordingly
Actually, here's the number 03001231100

[SwarHiro]

Pretty sure employers can't pay different rates to full time employed staff verses part time staff.
Speak to ACAS mate, Google acas and get their phone number, explain the issue and they will advise accordingly
Actually, here's the number 03001231100

thanks bud xx

[MooneKid]

Time to move on buddy you’re holding all the aces at the moment

[whercode74]

Sounds like he dun give a f about his drivers when it happen to me I didn't give a f an left without any notice

[SwarHiro]

Sounds like he dun give a f about his drivers when it happen to me I didn't give a f an left without any notice

lost about 12 drivers last month

[whercode74]

Sounds like he dun give a f about his drivers when it happen to me I didn't give a f an left without any notice

lost about 12 drivers last month

respect like an trust is a 2 way thing u dun show it u dun get it

[MooneKid]

Sounds like he dun give a f about his drivers when it happen to me I didn't give a f an left without any notice

Always the best way to leave in my book

[gordBook]

Can't you sign a contract?
Commitment to company gets benefits but being able to work or not obvs doesn't

[SwarHiro]

Can't you sign a contract?
Commitment to company gets benefits but being able to work or not obvs doesn't

I don't want full time I'm to old for that sh*t

[gordBook]

Can't you sign a contract?
Commitment to company gets benefits but being able to work or not obvs doesn't

I don't want full time I'm to old for that sh*t

can't you sign a contract for the hours you do?

[gordBook]

Can't you sign a contract?
Commitment to company gets benefits but being able to work or not obvs doesn't

I don't want full time I'm to old for that sh*t

surely if you can they will pay you same as you are committed to the company. If you don't you are basically freelance?

[gordBook]

Can't you sign a contract?
Commitment to company gets benefits but being able to work or not obvs doesn't

I don't want full time I'm to old for that sh*t

I just mean, if you can pick and choose your not on the same deal as those who can't?

[MickFollow]

They have got to pay Holliday pay at the rate you are on also if you work say 50 hrs every week they have to pay Holliday pay at 50 hrs per week by law

[AlesPinch]

They have got to pay Holliday pay at the rate you are on also if you work say 50 hrs every week they have to pay Holliday pay at 50 hrs per week by law

holiday pay is done at an average over last 52 weeks

[alanKurisu]

They have got to pay Holliday pay at the rate you are on also if you work say 50 hrs every week they have to pay Holliday pay at 50 hrs per week by law

holiday pay is done at an average over last 52 weeks

no it’s not
Average of last 12 weeks

[tonyGlossy]

They have got to pay Holliday pay at the rate you are on also if you work say 50 hrs every week they have to pay Holliday pay at 50 hrs per week by law

holiday pay is done at an average over last 52 weeks

no it’s not
Average of last 12 weeks

thats old practice now m8, my employer tried to stop paying the average 12 week to a fixed 9 hours for a holiday, and of course we all kicked off
I contacted acas and was informed the 12 week average is not done anymore and employers can now calculate holiday pay based on a 52 week average!!
Couldn't believe myself but its true.
This all happened in May this year.
Pfffft

[MickFollow]

They have got to pay Holliday pay at the rate you are on also if you work say 50 hrs every week they have to pay Holliday pay at 50 hrs per week by law

holiday pay is done at an average over last 52 weeks

correct that's why I said if you work 50 hrs per week I should have said 50hrs per week all year as an example

[MickFollow]

They have got to pay Holliday pay at the rate you are on also if you work say 50 hrs every week they have to pay Holliday pay at 50 hrs per week by law

holiday pay is done at an average over last 52 weeks

no it’s not
Average of last 12 weeks

no it's not

[geoffee28]

Holiday pay clause is not lawful. They would lose in court.

[SwarHiro]

Holiday pay clause is not lawful. They would lose in court.

noted tyx

[ConsRpg]

If you have been with the company for 3 months or more then your entitlement is exactly the same and you should have the same pay and conditions and that’s what acass told a friend of mine yesterday

[geoffee28]

If you have been with the company for 3 months or more then your entitlement is exactly the same and you should have the same pay and conditions and that’s what acass told a friend of mine yesterday

Yes, I think that is correct under the agency workers regulations. I am less familiar with zero hours contracts so cant comment on that aspect.

[ConsRpg]

If you have been with the company for 3 months or more then your entitlement is exactly the same and you should have the same pay and conditions and that’s what acass told a friend of mine yesterday

Yes, I think that is correct under the agency workers regulations. I am less familiar with zero hours contracts so cant comment on that aspect.

it doesn’t matter with zero hours contracts your still employed and have the same rights

[PatMarcs]

Well said. They will pay or another company will. Get in touch with a few agencies.

[simpline74]

Holiday is now paid on an average of the last 12 weeks wages I thought?

[ConsRpg]

Holiday is now paid on an average of the last 12 weeks wages I thought?

yes it’s based on the average over a 12 week period

[kippVegan]

Holiday is now paid on an average of the last 12 weeks wages I thought?

no it changed to 52 weeks average last year

[RosaPress]

I'd just keep saying no and go somewhere else.

[patCuddly]

Nobody treets me like that. Just leave. They're ridiculing you. Better stuff out there.

[Leechozzi8]

Walk away mate

[JackMaxi]

Know your worth

[SwarHiro]

Sue Billson look at what they say

[MulMullet]

£14 lol that’s so 2016

[SwarHiro]

£14 lol that’s so 2016

I'd be happier with 14 than 10 lol

[warrBorg]

Your company is making it up as they go along

[SwarHiro]

Your company is making it up as they go along

I know

[warrBorg]

Your company is making it up as they go along

I know

they are all at it, penny pinchers, suppose they have to screw drivers to get their bonuses

[BoyZero]

You should definitely be on the same rate.

[maguiRun]

Holiday pay as to accrue as a pro rate of your hourly pay approximately 8% per hour so they can't under pay the holiday rate (basically the same as an agency). The difference in pay is down to how long you have been there - if more than 13 weeks then you should be getting the same rate of pay - you would be similar to a agency worker

[SwarHiro]

Holiday pay as to accrue as a pro rate of your hourly pay approximately 8% per hour so they can't under pay the holiday rate (basically the same as an agency). The difference in pay is down to how long you have been there - if more than 13 weeks then you should be getting the same rate of pay - you would be similar to a agency worker

20 months now

[maguiRun]

Holiday pay as to accrue as a pro rate of your hourly pay approximately 8% per hour so they can't under pay the holiday rate (basically the same as an agency). The difference in pay is down to how long you have been there - if more than 13 weeks then you should be getting the same rate of pay - you would be similar to a agency worker

20 months now

still 12/13 weeks
https://www.gov.uk/agency-workers-your- ... ncy-worker

[craigNumber1]

Move on

[GaryAuthor]

Move on to another agency as they sound shit lots about

[ModePlace]

There's plenty of other companies that will employ you and pay you better,
Find One and walk away but tell them what you're doing they might improve your pay.
Going for interviews is usually a good way to tell them 3 in one week's good

[dimKeeper]

I would think that would be illegal, can't pay different rates for doing same job especially if employed direct. Be worth contacting ACAS

[gordBook]

I would think that would be illegal, can't pay different rates for doing same job especially if employed direct. Be worth contacting ACAS

but it sounds like it's not the same job. She can pick?

[dimKeeper]

I would think that would be illegal, can't pay different rates for doing same job especially if employed direct. Be worth contacting ACAS

but it sounds like it's not the same job. She can pick?

Due to having a flexible zero hour contract, still doing same job as full time staff.

[YordJide]

That's bad.. I got this text today
Good morning,
I hope you are well.
XP Recruitment here,
We have on - going 7.5 Tonne Paye work available starting Monday next week.
Start time between 4 am and 6 am start.
Based in wellingborough
Pay is:
£14 an hour PAYE
£165.68 an hour - with holiday rolled up
If you’re interested please text back yes
Thank you
XP Recruitment

[SwarHiro]

That's bad.. I got this text today
Good morning,
I hope you are well.
XP Recruitment here,
We have on - going 7.5 Tonne Paye work available starting Monday next week.
Start time between 4 am and 6 am start.
Based in wellingborough
Pay is:
£14 an hour PAYE
£165.68 an hour - with holiday rolled up
If you’re interested please text back yes
Thank you
XP Recruitment

too far away everything else ok

[YordJide]

That's bad.. I got this text today
Good morning,
I hope you are well.
XP Recruitment here,
We have on - going 7.5 Tonne Paye work available starting Monday next week.
Start time between 4 am and 6 am start.
Based in wellingborough
Pay is:
£14 an hour PAYE
£165.68 an hour - with holiday rolled up
If you’re interested please text back yes
Thank you
XP Recruitment

too far away everything else ok

you can earn a lot more than that mate, I'd ask around, I was showing you this to show its out there

[SwarHiro]

That's bad.. I got this text today
Good morning,
I hope you are well.
XP Recruitment here,
We have on - going 7.5 Tonne Paye work available starting Monday next week.
Start time between 4 am and 6 am start.
Based in wellingborough
Pay is:
£14 an hour PAYE
£165.68 an hour - with holiday rolled up
If you’re interested please text back yes
Thank you
XP Recruitment

too far away everything else ok

you can earn a lot more than that mate, I'd ask around, I was showing you this to show its out there

need this nearer to me x

[YordJide]

too far away everything else ok

you can earn a lot more than that mate, I'd ask around, I was showing you this to show its out there

need this nearer to me x

sent you a PM which might be of interest for you mate

[iwnard23]

That's bad.. I got this text today
Good morning,
I hope you are well.
XP Recruitment here,
We have on - going 7.5 Tonne Paye work available starting Monday next week.
Start time between 4 am and 6 am start.
Based in wellingborough
Pay is:
£14 an hour PAYE
£165.68 an hour - with holiday rolled up
If you’re interested please text back yes
Thank you
XP Recruitment

For £165.68 an hour I'll travel!

[iwnard23]

That's bad.. I got this text today
Good morning,
I hope you are well.
XP Recruitment here,
We have on - going 7.5 Tonne Paye work available starting Monday next week.
Start time between 4 am and 6 am start.
Based in wellingborough
Pay is:
£14 an hour PAYE
£165.68 an hour - with holiday rolled up
If you’re interested please text back yes
Thank you
XP Recruitment

That's what the man said

[YordJide]

That's bad.. I got this text today
Good morning,
I hope you are well.
XP Recruitment here,
We have on - going 7.5 Tonne Paye work available starting Monday next week.
Start time between 4 am and 6 am start.
Based in wellingborough
Pay is:
£14 an hour PAYE
£165.68 an hour - with holiday rolled up
If you’re interested please text back yes
Thank you
XP Recruitment

That's what the man said

I think that bit may be a typo, agency gals

[boanKing]

Jesus for gods sake tell them to shove there job where a monkey shoves his holiday pay is a average over the past 12 weeks worked by law

[ChrisBob]

Go somewhere else that needs drivers.

[CameSell]

If it’s what you agree when started why would they change it
Re negotiate contract

[nikoffeezi55]

Why would you work on a zero hours contract

[SwarHiro]

Why would you work on a zero hours contract

I choose a zero hours contract it suits me I can say no if I want

[nikoffeezi55]

Why would you work on a zero hours contract

I choose a zero hours contract it suits me I can say no if I want

true but do you get holiday pay and there's no notice period for binning you off

[SwarHiro]

Why would you work on a zero hours contract

I choose a zero hours contract it suits me I can say no if I want

true but do you get holiday pay and there's no notice period for binning you off

I get hp in my weekly wage as the law requires and I can walk too, they need me more than I need them

[nikoffeezi55]

I choose a zero hours contract it suits me I can say no if I want

true but do you get holiday pay and there's no notice period for binning you off

I get hp in my weekly wage as the law requires and I can walk too, they need me more than I need them

true i know what you mean but u should speak to them about a rise as your doing the same job as the others

[dysonVamp]

I choose a zero hours contract it suits me I can say no if I want

true but do you get holiday pay and there's no notice period for binning you off

I get hp in my weekly wage as the law requires and I can walk too, they need me more than I need them

don’t look like it…

[TimSpunky]

Why would you work on a zero hours contract

You should be on the same rate as full time driver's. As you are employed as causal drivers it should not make a difference. Its illegal to pay less for holiday entitlement should reflect your wage as if working! Who do these f**king companies think they are? Do they wish less drivers? I would call their bluff and walk, surely there are better employers out there?

[philipYoung]

Why would you work on a zero hours contract

You should be on the same rate as full time driver's. As you are employed as causal drivers it should not make a difference. Its illegal to pay less for holiday entitlement should reflect your wage as if working! Who do these f**king companies think they are? Do they wish less drivers? I would call their bluff and walk, surely there are better employers out there?

A zero hours suit's me too at 74 and before you say it yes I am crackers

[RaluRaider]

jueses just leave

[clemeHann]

All holidays are paid on p60 average earnings, became law a couple years ago

[commKino]

Park their truck up Chuck their keys through the hatch, and move on, there’s tons more on more than £14.50 an hour

[GeoffPrep]

If you’re on the same work all the time you should be payed the same rate on unless you agreed the rate your on then you must go back and negotiate a new pay rate

[ManoQuant]

Time to say goodbye to them me thinks.