Tacho card in 6.50. Break at 12.35 for 40 minutes. Then drove back to the depot which is a ten minute drive and had

[RIMLION]

Tacho card in 6.50.
Break at 12.35 for 40 minutes. Then drove back to the depot which is a ten minute drive and had 20 minutes (there was no phone signal where I parked) at 14.35 my tacho and dash bored lightning up like Christmas saying I need 15 more minutes. Yes I split my break but had an hour in total. Should of lasted me until I finish as I'm multi drop and only need 45 minutes per day.

[sacho2853]

Must be 30 mins min on 2nd spilt not 15

[Petic2864]

Must be 30 mins min on 2nd spilt not 15

If that was why it would be flashing 30 minutes though not 15? Sounds like WTD shi**

[CAMERON]

Split break needs to be 15 then a 30 (small then large). Should have waited that extra 5 mins to make it 45 and you'd have been all good

[PHILLUCI]

Split break needs to be 15 then a 30 (small then large). Should have waited that extra 5 mins to make it 45 and you'd have been all good

facts

[gonnieGuy]

Split break needs to be 15 then a 30 (small then large). Should have waited that extra 5 mins to make it 45 and you'd have been all good

thats how i understand it too…15 then a 30 job done

[kylett]

The flash anyway telling you when it’s 6 hours 9 hours ect these days even if you had a break

[lindom]

Jesus

[RIMLION]

Cheers FFS

[trumanne]

i would’ve just done a 45

[Beaver40]

i would’ve just done a 45

on multi we break to cover wtd mainly, so 45 is all we need to cover driving time it may fall outside of wtd hence why we split

[bealz2893]

i would’ve just done a 45

on multi we break to cover wtd mainly, so 45 is all we need to cover driving time it may fall outside of wtd hence why we split

the split should still be a 15 and 30 or two 30’s even if you don’t do more than 4 1/2 hours driving that day that’s just the way the tacho meter works it works on drive time not WTD

[Beaver40]

i would’ve just done a 45

on multi we break to cover wtd mainly, so 45 is all we need to cover driving time it may fall outside of wtd hence why we split

the split should still be a 15 and 30 or two 30’s even if you don’t do more than 4 1/2 hours driving that day that’s just the way the tacho meter works it works on drive time not WTD

i know

[trumanne]

i would’ve just done a 45

on multi we break to cover wtd mainly, so 45 is all we need to cover driving time it may fall outside of wtd hence why we split

i know do a fair bit of multidrop but for the sake of 5 minutes i would’ve just left it to cover my WTD and drive even if don’t need it for drive time

[MarvericGutsy]

i would’ve just done a 45

on multi we break to cover wtd mainly, so 45 is all we need to cover driving time it may fall outside of wtd hence why we split

the split should still be a 15 and 30 or two 30’s even if you don’t do more than 4 1/2 hours driving that day that’s just the way the tacho meter works it works on drive time not WTD

I was always told to believe
And now correct me if I’m wrong as I haven’t looked into it and not too experienced but if you can finish your day within your four and half hours drive you can do so only on a 15 min break
Now don’t shoot me if I’m wrong
Im only asking if what I had heard is correct or not

[bealz2893]

on multi we break to cover wtd mainly, so 45 is all we need to cover driving time it may fall outside of wtd hence why we split

the split should still be a 15 and 30 or two 30’s even if you don’t do more than 4 1/2 hours driving that day that’s just the way the tacho meter works it works on drive time not WTD

I was always told to believe
And now correct me if I’m wrong as I haven’t looked into it and not too experienced but if you can finish your day within your four and half hours drive you can do so only on a 15 min break
Now don’t shoot me if I’m wrong
Im only asking if what I had heard is correct or not

that would be true but only if you haven’t gone over 6 hours working time so say you start at 6 if you finish before 12 and haven’t gone over your 4 1/2 driving time you only need to take a 15 minute break if you go over 6 hours WTD (working time directive) you need another 15 minute break for every 3 hours after that
So WTD is 15 minute break for your fist 6 hours of WORK TIME the for ever 3 hours after that initial 6 you have to take another 15 minute break
I.e you start at 6am and work until 1 am that would be 7 hours working time you haven’t gone over your 4 1/2 hours drive time you will have to have 30 minutes break minimum to not get an infringement

[MarvericGutsy]

the split should still be a 15 and 30 or two 30’s even if you don’t do more than 4 1/2 hours driving that day that’s just the way the tacho meter works it works on drive time not WTD

I was always told to believe
And now correct me if I’m wrong as I haven’t looked into it and not too experienced but if you can finish your day within your four and half hours drive you can do so only on a 15 min break
Now don’t shoot me if I’m wrong
Im only asking if what I had heard is correct or not

that would be true but only if you haven’t gone over 6 hours working time so say you start at 6 if you finish before 12 and haven’t gone over your 4 1/2 driving time you only need to take a 15 minute break if you go over 6 hours WTD (working time directive) you need another 15 minute break for every 3 hours after that
So WTD is 15 minute break for your fist 6 hours of WORK TIME the for ever 3 hours after that initial 6 you have to take another 15 minute break
I.e you start at 6am and work until 1 am that would be 7 hours working time you haven’t gone over your 4 1/2 hours drive time you will have to have 30 minutes break minimum to not get an infringement

fair enough so not Exactely as I was told but not far off it’s all learning I got my licence in 2018 and I can only learn this from experienced drivers as you don’t get told or taught any of this realistically in the real world

[bealz2893]

I was always told to believe
And now correct me if I’m wrong as I haven’t looked into it and not too experienced but if you can finish your day within your four and half hours drive you can do so only on a 15 min break
Now don’t shoot me if I’m wrong
Im only asking if what I had heard is correct or not

that would be true but only if you haven’t gone over 6 hours working time so say you start at 6 if you finish before 12 and haven’t gone over your 4 1/2 driving time you only need to take a 15 minute break if you go over 6 hours WTD (working time directive) you need another 15 minute break for every 3 hours after that
So WTD is 15 minute break for your fist 6 hours of WORK TIME the for ever 3 hours after that initial 6 you have to take another 15 minute break
I.e you start at 6am and work until 1 am that would be 7 hours working time you haven’t gone over your 4 1/2 hours drive time you will have to have 30 minutes break minimum to not get an infringement

fair enough so not Exactely as I was told but not far off it’s all learning I got my licence in 2018 and I can only learn this from experienced drivers as you don’t get told or taught any of this realistically in the real world

have you had any training at all really with any of the tacho stuff?

[thwell]

The first 40 minutes took you over the 6 hours.If you’d left it alone on break for another 5 minutes you would’ve been alright.If you split a break you’re meant to have the 15 minutes first then the 30 minutes not the other way around.I’d delete this post if I were you in case your boss sees it?

[Beaver40]

The first 40 minutes took you over the 6 hours.If you’d left it alone on break for another 5 minutes you would’ve been alright.If you split a break you’re meant to have the 15 minutes first then the 30 minutes not the other way around.I’d delete this post if I were you in case your boss sees it?

needs his boss to see it to get some training

[paupeeDD]

The first 40 minutes took you over the 6 hours.If you’d left it alone on break for another 5 minutes you would’ve been alright.If you split a break you’re meant to have the 15 minutes first then the 30 minutes not the other way around.I’d delete this post if I were you in case your boss sees it?

needs his boss to see it to get some training

I think he's just been schooled

[juniorjohn]

The first 40 minutes took you over the 6 hours.If you’d left it alone on break for another 5 minutes you would’ve been alright.If you split a break you’re meant to have the 15 minutes first then the 30 minutes not the other way around.I’d delete this post if I were you in case your boss sees it?

agreed

[farrepo]

The first 40 minutes took you over the 6 hours.If you’d left it alone on break for another 5 minutes you would’ve been alright.If you split a break you’re meant to have the 15 minutes first then the 30 minutes not the other way around.I’d delete this post if I were you in case your boss sees it?

only if you want to reset your 4.5. perfectly acceptable for 30 and 15 or 25 and 20 for the WTD

[Vinz-Moff]

The first 40 minutes took you over the 6 hours.If you’d left it alone on break for another 5 minutes you would’ve been alright.If you split a break you’re meant to have the 15 minutes first then the 30 minutes not the other way around.I’d delete this post if I were you in case your boss sees it?

only if you want to reset your 4.5. perfectly acceptable for 30 and 15 or 25 and 20 for the WTD

wtd and drivers hours and breaks are two separate issues But the driver needs to work them both together to cover both issues a split break starts with a 15 min or a 30 min if you combine it with the six hour rule it can get confusing but the basics are simple

[farrepo]

The first 40 minutes took you over the 6 hours.If you’d left it alone on break for another 5 minutes you would’ve been alright.If you split a break you’re meant to have the 15 minutes first then the 30 minutes not the other way around.I’d delete this post if I were you in case your boss sees it?

only if you want to reset your 4.5. perfectly acceptable for 30 and 15 or 25 and 20 for the WTD

wtd and drivers hours and breaks are two separate issues But the driver needs to work them both together to cover both issues a split break starts with a 15 min or a 30 min if you combine it with the six hour rule it can get confusing but the basics are simple

do you think I've said something wrong?

[farrepo]

The first 40 minutes took you over the 6 hours.If you’d left it alone on break for another 5 minutes you would’ve been alright.If you split a break you’re meant to have the 15 minutes first then the 30 minutes not the other way around.I’d delete this post if I were you in case your boss sees it?

only if you want to reset your 4.5. perfectly acceptable for 30 and 15 or 25 and 20 for the WTD

wtd and drivers hours and breaks are two separate issues But the driver needs to work them both together to cover both issues a split break starts with a 15 min or a 30 min if you combine it with the six hour rule it can get confusing but the basics are simple

and it's only 15 required to reset the 6 hour rule

[Vinz-Moff]

only if you want to reset your 4.5. perfectly acceptable for 30 and 15 or 25 and 20 for the WTD

wtd and drivers hours and breaks are two separate issues But the driver needs to work them both together to cover both issues a split break starts with a 15 min or a 30 min if you combine it with the six hour rule it can get confusing but the basics are simple

do you think I've said something wrong?

no but its confusing to a new driver

[Vinz-Moff]

only if you want to reset your 4.5. perfectly acceptable for 30 and 15 or 25 and 20 for the WTD

wtd and drivers hours and breaks are two separate issues But the driver needs to work them both together to cover both issues a split break starts with a 15 min or a 30 min if you combine it with the six hour rule it can get confusing but the basics are simple

and it's only 15 required to reset the 6 hour rule

again you are correct but combining the two ie drivers hours and the wtd is confusing

[farrepo]

wtd and drivers hours and breaks are two separate issues But the driver needs to work them both together to cover both issues a split break starts with a 15 min or a 30 min if you combine it with the six hour rule it can get confusing but the basics are simple

and it's only 15 required to reset the 6 hour rule

again you are correct but combining the two ie drivers hours and the wtd is confusing

the biggest reason it's confusing to anyone is because they've never taken to time to read the regulations a few times till it sinks in.
There's no excuse for the last 10 or 15 years as it's all published online.
It doesn't actually take that long to read through, but most haven't, so they informed from other drivers, again most of which have never read the regs, so you get a mash up of wrong and conflicting information, so of course it's going to be confusing.
Read the full government guidance on the regs 4 times back to back and you'll be more clued up than most, and only ever refer to official sources as plenty of 3rd party ones give out incorrect information, along with plenty of dcpc courses unfortunately.

[Vinz-Moff]

and it's only 15 required to reset the 6 hour rule

again you are correct but combining the two ie drivers hours and the wtd is confusing

the biggest reason it's confusing to anyone is because they've never taken to time to read the regulations a few times till it sinks in.
There's no excuse for the last 10 or 15 years as it's all published online.
It doesn't actually take that long to read through, but most haven't, so they informed from other drivers, again most of which have never read the regs, so you get a mash up of wrong and conflicting information, so of course it's going to be confusing.
Read the full government guidance on the regs 4 times back to back and you'll be more clued up than most, and only ever refer to official sources as plenty of 3rd party ones give out incorrect information, along with plenty of dcpc courses unfortunately.

good advice

[swiftyKenjo]

The first 40 minutes took you over the 6 hours.If you’d left it alone on break for another 5 minutes you would’ve been alright.If you split a break you’re meant to have the 15 minutes first then the 30 minutes not the other way around.I’d delete this post if I were you in case your boss sees it?

or delete it because of the amount of stick he's gonna get

[Micream]

Should have had the 20 first then the 40 you can split it but at 15/30 and not 30/15

[WalRaven]

This is basic

[turvee2dd]

2nd break if 1st was less than 45min must be 30 mins

[Maui2192]

You must take a 15, before 6 hours, or a 45.
If you took 40 mins it only counts as your first 15.

[stualle]

Should of had 30 mins on your second break

[litry-hron]

I dont like splitting my breaks. I always go for a full break 45min no matter

[gri6silvon]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

[Nicety.Nichol]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

Not everyone is as smart as you see mate! I struggled as a new pass with my Tacho as I’m dyslexic! no need to get c**ky buddy! He’s just asking for help!

[gri6silvon]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

Not everyone is as smart as you see mate! I struggled as a new pass with my Tacho as I’m dyslexic! no need to get c**ky buddy! He’s just asking for help!

Dyslexic… Please… It’s literally a part of your test, you don’t need to read something to know it… Not everyone is cut out for it though I guess.

[Nicety.Nichol]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

Not everyone is as smart as you see mate! I struggled as a new pass with my Tacho as I’m dyslexic! no need to get c**ky buddy! He’s just asking for help!

Dyslexic… Please… It’s literally a part of your test, you don’t need to read something to know it… Not everyone is cut out for it though I guess.

like I said mate, not everyone is as smart as you! And having dyslexia sometimes means that things may take a little longer to sink in! Don’t knock someone asking for help! I’m pretty sure you have once or twice! Oops my bad, no you haven’t because you know it all

[Richeric-JJon]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

with respect, new passers have a lot to take in. There’s a lot to remember and it takes some people longer than others to grasp how it all works together. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve had drivers ask me questions when I’m at a truck stop or services. Even experienced drivers sometimes have a mind block and forget things.

[gri6silvon]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

with respect, new passers have a lot to take in. There’s a lot to remember and it takes some people longer than others to grasp how it all works together. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve had drivers ask me questions when I’m at a truck stop or services. Even experienced drivers sometimes have a mind block and forget things.

I never once claimed to know everything, I’ve asked questions loads of times but there’s a difference between asking for directions, best technique for reversing etc vs something I’m legally obligated to know. The regulations are in place for a reason, it’s not for convenience it’s to ensure road safety for all users but I apologise for taking my role serious

[Nicety.Nichol]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

with respect, new passers have a lot to take in. There’s a lot to remember and it takes some people longer than others to grasp how it all works together. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve had drivers ask me questions when I’m at a truck stop or services. Even experienced drivers sometimes have a mind block and forget things.

I never once claimed to know everything, I’ve asked questions loads of times but there’s a difference between asking for directions, best technique for reversing etc vs something I’m legally obligated to know. The regulations are in place for a reason, it’s not for convenience it’s to ensure road safety for all users but I apologise for taking my role serious

that’s all he asked was a question about his tacho, it’s better to ask and get it right than just to assume as he feels obligated to know! Like you said right! Sounds like he’s being quite professional to me! people forget mate, it’s called being human at the end of the day and he as been out the game for a year! and that’s why we get cpc Refresher Courses every five years, just to keep it fresh in mind and also to ensure road safety! Because unfortunately some people may forget!

[ThomasPro]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

with respect, new passers have a lot to take in. There’s a lot to remember and it takes some people longer than others to grasp how it all works together. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve had drivers ask me questions when I’m at a truck stop or services. Even experienced drivers sometimes have a mind block and forget things.

I never once claimed to know everything, I’ve asked questions loads of times but there’s a difference between asking for directions, best technique for reversing etc vs something I’m legally obligated to know. The regulations are in place for a reason, it’s not for convenience it’s to ensure road safety for all users but I apologise for taking my role serious

wasn’t part of my test

[ScoMaco]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

with respect, new passers have a lot to take in. There’s a lot to remember and it takes some people longer than others to grasp how it all works together. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve had drivers ask me questions when I’m at a truck stop or services. Even experienced drivers sometimes have a mind block and forget things.

I never once claimed to know everything, I’ve asked questions loads of times but there’s a difference between asking for directions, best technique for reversing etc vs something I’m legally obligated to know. The regulations are in place for a reason, it’s not for convenience it’s to ensure road safety for all users but I apologise for taking my role serious

I'm not defending not knowing something this simple, but I was never taught a damn thing about tacho rules or how to use it in my test or CPC when I first did mine.

[IanFang]

with respect, new passers have a lot to take in. There’s a lot to remember and it takes some people longer than others to grasp how it all works together. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve had drivers ask me questions when I’m at a truck stop or services. Even experienced drivers sometimes have a mind block and forget things.

I never once claimed to know everything, I’ve asked questions loads of times but there’s a difference between asking for directions, best technique for reversing etc vs something I’m legally obligated to know. The regulations are in place for a reason, it’s not for convenience it’s to ensure road safety for all users but I apologise for taking my role serious

wasn’t part of my test

Nor mine

[MarvericGutsy]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

with respect, new passers have a lot to take in. There’s a lot to remember and it takes some people longer than others to grasp how it all works together. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve had drivers ask me questions when I’m at a truck stop or services. Even experienced drivers sometimes have a mind block and forget things.

I never once claimed to know everything, I’ve asked questions loads of times but there’s a difference between asking for directions, best technique for reversing etc vs something I’m legally obligated to know. The regulations are in place for a reason, it’s not for convenience it’s to ensure road safety for all users but I apologise for taking my role serious

well I done my test in 2018 and it was absolutely nothing to do with it and wasn’t informed or taught a single thing about a tacho let alone working hours

[Bangsou]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

with respect, new passers have a lot to take in. There’s a lot to remember and it takes some people longer than others to grasp how it all works together. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve had drivers ask me questions when I’m at a truck stop or services. Even experienced drivers sometimes have a mind block and forget things.

I never once claimed to know everything, I’ve asked questions loads of times but there’s a difference between asking for directions, best technique for reversing etc vs something I’m legally obligated to know. The regulations are in place for a reason, it’s not for convenience it’s to ensure road safety for all users but I apologise for taking my role serious

so if you don't read something how will you learn something new .? Over 90% of info for any new skill is reading .and dyslexia .is a valid reason for something to be harder to learn or take in how about a bit of empathy

[Bangsou]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

with respect, new passers have a lot to take in. There’s a lot to remember and it takes some people longer than others to grasp how it all works together. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve had drivers ask me questions when I’m at a truck stop or services. Even experienced drivers sometimes have a mind block and forget things.

I never once claimed to know everything, I’ve asked questions loads of times but there’s a difference between asking for directions, best technique for reversing etc vs something I’m legally obligated to know. The regulations are in place for a reason, it’s not for convenience it’s to ensure road safety for all users but I apologise for taking my role serious

so what is your role ???

[shausBoyAce]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

only daft question is the one that you don’t ask ,
he’s new to game give lad a break ,

[dautie02]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

for the record, new drivers don’t do any ‘training’ regarding the WTD and driving hours when they do mods 2 and 4, so there is NO test involved on either of those subjects.
Perhaps before you make comments like you have, you could perhaps know what you are talking about? People like you put new drivers, AND experienced drivers, off asking questions.
Now you know this, perhaps you will know how to answer a similar question that arises again

[Calderim]

I honestly don’t know how anyone doesn’t know something as basic as this, even if you’re a new pass it should be fresh in your mind surely.

I’ve been driving for 2 years now I’ve never used my tacho , I do recovery so it’s not needed , i nearly had to go out of area the other day n had to phone my friend to walk me through how to use it

[Tiff_deaco]

Wow, !!

[RIMLION]

Wow, !!

your way to old to be sarcastic

[Tiff_deaco]

Wow, !!

your way to old to be sarcastic

it wasn't sarcasm. It was utter disbelief that someone would ask such a basic question!!

[Sully2601]

Just do a 45 next time . Splitting it needs to be 15 then a 30 .

[HawkesJOU]

Just do a 45 next time . Splitting it needs to be 15 then a 30 .

or a 30 and a 30mins

[Wrighty]

As stated earlier split break must be 15/30

[garryett]

30 and a 30mins

[jamily]

2nd break needed to be 30 mins

[Dante-Don]

Ffs all that and you couldn't wait 5mins what's the rush

[thomls2894]

Stick your mates card in and crack on it’s all rubbish anyway lol

[Kieraco]

Thank god they are changing rules to cpc so people will actually have to understand their job

[embem]

Thank god they are changing rules to cpc so people will actually have to understand their job

any time soon?

[Kieraco]

Thank god they are changing rules to cpc so people will actually have to understand their job

any time soon?

this year so ive been informed, there will actually be a test at end of each one to show you've actually listened and have to take different ones not all the same

[1849_corgee]

Longest break last 15 then 30

[nigeL8R]

Cpc cpc cpc!!!!!!!

[jenks_coop]

Cpc cpc cpc!!!!!!!

this is why we have to do cpc courses Ive only been driving 30yrs

[pau+rodant]

do a 45 next time

[knight8ne]

Just do 30 mins first break then 2nd break another 31 that will last all day no more problems..

[neplea]

Just do 30 mins first break then 2nd break another 31 that will last all day no more problems..

unless you work over 6hrs after 2nd break

[knight8ne]

Just do 30 mins first break then 2nd break another 31 that will last all day no more problems..

unless you work over 6hrs after 2nd break

drivers get caught out all the time with breaks just take two half hours jobs a good en…!!!!!

[Alio_Ashy]

Just do 30 mins first break then 2nd break another 31 that will last all day no more problems..

unless you work over 6hrs after 2nd break

drivers get caught out all the time with breaks just take two half hours jobs a good en…!!!!!

how two half hours? It has to be 15 and then 30 or a straight 45

[NOLLANIZ]

unless you work over 6hrs after 2nd break

drivers get caught out all the time with breaks just take two half hours jobs a good en…!!!!!

how two half hours? It has to be 15 and then 30 or a straight 45

no it doesn’t the first 15 won’t meet your 6 hour wtd you have driving time left at 6 hours technically yes you only need to take a break even if only driven an hour