Tacho card in 6.50. Break at 12.35 for 40 minutes. Then drove back to the depot which is a ten minute drive and had

[Kasion]

In terms of WTD you had 60 minutes. Most tachos not consider WTD on what it displays as faults.
If you had less then 4:30 driving (twice 10 minutes as you say should be OK) there is nothing wrong.
You could put tacho on wrong mode, ie on POA or hammers and then you may have infridgement.

[Kasion]

Or you messed up manual entry Without printout there may be many scenarios.

[hybe]

This is why the CPC courses here for ever FFS

[Stevensp]

15 then a 30

[Jonesin]

This is why there pushing for exams , after doing dcpc ,
As clearly here some don’t get it , even when explained to them,
Just say ok I know now
As every day tacho question

[bry2thirne]

15 then 30

[Aaronry]

Just remember always in your first 6hrs to take a 15 mins break or a 45mins to reset your WTD and your driver hrs then you will have a fresh 6hrs to work with. 40 mins will only register as a 15 mins. Sadly you will get a infringement.
If you are struggling with your time calculations a we reminder to keep ontop of your tacho is to just put a timer on your phone or watch.

[HOFFELCY]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up.. then 30min break before u hit 4hrs 30min of driving.
Or just do a full 45 min break. I always add 2 minutes on.
15 min break - 17min on tacho
30 min break - 32 min on tacho
45 min break - 47 min on tacho
It's not hard.. this is basics.. u should know this before u start doing truck driving work.

[dautie02]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up.. then 30min break before u hit 4hrs 30min of driving.
Or just do a full 45 min break. I always add 2 minutes on.
15 min break - 17min on tacho
30 min break - 32 min on tacho
45 min break - 47 min on tacho
It's not hard.. this is basics.. u should know this before u start doing truck driving work.

there is absolutely no need to add minutes on when taking breaks using a tacho. If it says 15/30/45 on the tacho, then that’s exactly what they are.
It’s ironic that you are criticising someone for not knowing something, when you don’t actually know yourself.

[HOFFELCY]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up.. then 30min break before u hit 4hrs 30min of driving.
Or just do a full 45 min break. I always add 2 minutes on.
15 min break - 17min on tacho
30 min break - 32 min on tacho
45 min break - 47 min on tacho
It's not hard.. this is basics.. u should know this before u start doing truck driving work.

there is absolutely no need to add minutes on when taking breaks using a tacho. If it says 15/30/45 on the tacho, then that’s exactly what they are.
It’s ironic that you are criticising someone for not knowing something, when you don’t actually know yourself.

who the f**k are u to tell me I don't know nothing about the tacho!!??
There's absolutely nothing wrong with going 1 or 2 mins over so that u know its definitely recorded that amount of break. U talk absolute bollocks....
If u change it over to working time, dead on 15, 30 or 45, chances are it won't record properly. I've been doing this job for the last 12 years.. & never had any issues with the tacho...
Class 2, 12 years experience, class 1, 9 years experience... Plus ADR experience.

[dautie02]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up.. then 30min break before u hit 4hrs 30min of driving.
Or just do a full 45 min break. I always add 2 minutes on.
15 min break - 17min on tacho
30 min break - 32 min on tacho
45 min break - 47 min on tacho
It's not hard.. this is basics.. u should know this before u start doing truck driving work.

there is absolutely no need to add minutes on when taking breaks using a tacho. If it says 15/30/45 on the tacho, then that’s exactly what they are.
It’s ironic that you are criticising someone for not knowing something, when you don’t actually know yourself.

who the f**k are u to tell me I don't know nothing about the tacho!!??
There's absolutely nothing wrong with going 1 or 2 mins over so that u know its definitely recorded that amount of break. U talk absolute bollocks....
If u change it over to working time, dead on 15, 30 or 45, chances are it won't record properly. I've been doing this job for the last 12 years.. & never had any issues with the tacho...
Class 2, 12 years experience, class 1, 9 years experience... Plus ADR experience.

I’ll absolutely agree with you that there’s nothing wrong with going over the amount of required breaks, however, the fact is that whatever the tacho is showing is what it is. There’s no chances of 15/30/45 showing on the tacho changing to anything less when you change the mode. So yes, I have corrected your comment as what I have said is factually correct, and what you have said is ‘factually incorrect’. If you do a bit of research on how tachos work, then you will understand how they work, and that your initial comment wasn’t right.
The reason you haven’t had any issues in your 21yrs (I have 32yrs by the way) is that you are always having MORE break than legally required, which you’ll never get an infringement for.
I also keep up to date with the official regulations, the GTMR, GV262 and EC561/2006 amongst others, so I do have an idea of what I’m taking about……

[LewispAsh]

there is absolutely no need to add minutes on when taking breaks using a tacho. If it says 15/30/45 on the tacho, then that’s exactly what they are.
It’s ironic that you are criticising someone for not knowing something, when you don’t actually know yourself.

who the f**k are u to tell me I don't know nothing about the tacho!!??
There's absolutely nothing wrong with going 1 or 2 mins over so that u know its definitely recorded that amount of break. U talk absolute bollocks....
If u change it over to working time, dead on 15, 30 or 45, chances are it won't record properly. I've been doing this job for the last 12 years.. & never had any issues with the tacho...
Class 2, 12 years experience, class 1, 9 years experience... Plus ADR experience.

I’ll absolutely agree with you that there’s nothing wrong with going over the amount of required breaks, however, the fact is that whatever the tacho is showing is what it is. There’s no chances of 15/30/45 showing on the tacho changing to anything less when you change the mode. So yes, I have corrected your comment as what I have said is factually correct, and what you have said is ‘factually incorrect’. If you do a bit of research on how tachos work, then you will understand how they work, and that your initial comment wasn’t right.
The reason you haven’t had any issues in your 21yrs (I have 32yrs by the way) is that you are always having MORE break than legally required, which you’ll never get an infringement for.
I also keep up to date with the official regulations, the GTMR, GV262 and EC561/2006 amongst others, so I do have an idea of what I’m taking about……

i asked this to an ex DVSA officer, as said above go a couple of minutes extra as you don't know what second it ticked over. So for example you put it on a 15 at 12:30.10 then take it off break at 12.45.00 your 10 seconds short of a 15 minute break

[dautie02]

who the f**k are u to tell me I don't know nothing about the tacho!!??
There's absolutely nothing wrong with going 1 or 2 mins over so that u know its definitely recorded that amount of break. U talk absolute bollocks....
If u change it over to working time, dead on 15, 30 or 45, chances are it won't record properly. I've been doing this job for the last 12 years.. & never had any issues with the tacho...
Class 2, 12 years experience, class 1, 9 years experience... Plus ADR experience.

I’ll absolutely agree with you that there’s nothing wrong with going over the amount of required breaks, however, the fact is that whatever the tacho is showing is what it is. There’s no chances of 15/30/45 showing on the tacho changing to anything less when you change the mode. So yes, I have corrected your comment as what I have said is factually correct, and what you have said is ‘factually incorrect’. If you do a bit of research on how tachos work, then you will understand how they work, and that your initial comment wasn’t right.
The reason you haven’t had any issues in your 21yrs (I have 32yrs by the way) is that you are always having MORE break than legally required, which you’ll never get an infringement for.
I also keep up to date with the official regulations, the GTMR, GV262 and EC561/2006 amongst others, so I do have an idea of what I’m taking about……

i asked this to an ex DVSA officer, as said above go a couple of minutes extra as you don't know what second it ticked over. So for example you put it on a 15 at 12:30.10 then take it off break at 12.45.00 your 10 seconds short of a 15 minute break

a minute on a tacho is decided upon what mode it is on for the majority of that minute. If you do 31 seconds of break and 29 seconds of work, that minute will be classed as break.
That’s why if a tacho says it’s 15/30/45, then that’s what it is.
Your ex DVSA mate was wrong.
In your example that 10 seconds of that minute won’t change that minute as being classed as work/driving as the majority of that minute was break.

[dautie02]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up.. then 30min break before u hit 4hrs 30min of driving.
Or just do a full 45 min break. I always add 2 minutes on.
15 min break - 17min on tacho
30 min break - 32 min on tacho
45 min break - 47 min on tacho
It's not hard.. this is basics.. u should know this before u start doing truck driving work.

there is absolutely no need to add minutes on when taking breaks using a tacho. If it says 15/30/45 on the tacho, then that’s exactly what they are.
It’s ironic that you are criticising someone for not knowing something, when you don’t actually know yourself.

who the f**k are u to tell me I don't know nothing about the tacho!!??
There's absolutely nothing wrong with going 1 or 2 mins over so that u know its definitely recorded that amount of break. U talk absolute bollocks....
If u change it over to working time, dead on 15, 30 or 45, chances are it won't record properly. I've been doing this job for the last 12 years.. & never had any issues with the tacho...
Class 2, 12 years experience, class 1, 9 years experience... Plus ADR experience.

like I have already said, taking more break than required will mean no infringement/s, but doing that means you don’t understand how a tacho works, whereas as I do, hence myself correcting your initial comment. Knowing and understanding how one works doesn’t mean I’m talking “absolute b0ll0x”, it just means I can give correct and factual advice to those who don’t understand how they work………

[MarvericGutsy]

who the f**k are u to tell me I don't know nothing about the tacho!!??
There's absolutely nothing wrong with going 1 or 2 mins over so that u know its definitely recorded that amount of break. U talk absolute bollocks....
If u change it over to working time, dead on 15, 30 or 45, chances are it won't record properly. I've been doing this job for the last 12 years.. & never had any issues with the tacho...
Class 2, 12 years experience, class 1, 9 years experience... Plus ADR experience.

I’ll absolutely agree with you that there’s nothing wrong with going over the amount of required breaks, however, the fact is that whatever the tacho is showing is what it is. There’s no chances of 15/30/45 showing on the tacho changing to anything less when you change the mode. So yes, I have corrected your comment as what I have said is factually correct, and what you have said is ‘factually incorrect’. If you do a bit of research on how tachos work, then you will understand how they work, and that your initial comment wasn’t right.
The reason you haven’t had any issues in your 21yrs (I have 32yrs by the way) is that you are always having MORE break than legally required, which you’ll never get an infringement for.
I also keep up to date with the official regulations, the GTMR, GV262 and EC561/2006 amongst others, so I do have an idea of what I’m taking about……

i asked this to an ex DVSA officer, as said above go a couple of minutes extra as you don't know what second it ticked over. So for example you put it on a 15 at 12:30.10 then take it off break at 12.45.00 your 10 seconds short of a 15 minute break

but the tacho doesn’t lie the tacho is your timer not your watch so if your tacho is at 15 minutes than that is 15 minuite

[LewispAsh]

I’ll absolutely agree with you that there’s nothing wrong with going over the amount of required breaks, however, the fact is that whatever the tacho is showing is what it is. There’s no chances of 15/30/45 showing on the tacho changing to anything less when you change the mode. So yes, I have corrected your comment as what I have said is factually correct, and what you have said is ‘factually incorrect’. If you do a bit of research on how tachos work, then you will understand how they work, and that your initial comment wasn’t right.
The reason you haven’t had any issues in your 21yrs (I have 32yrs by the way) is that you are always having MORE break than legally required, which you’ll never get an infringement for.
I also keep up to date with the official regulations, the GTMR, GV262 and EC561/2006 amongst others, so I do have an idea of what I’m taking about……

i asked this to an ex DVSA officer, as said above go a couple of minutes extra as you don't know what second it ticked over. So for example you put it on a 15 at 12:30.10 then take it off break at 12.45.00 your 10 seconds short of a 15 minute break

but the tacho doesn’t lie the tacho is your timer not your watch so if your tacho is at 15 minutes than that is 15 minuite

still would rather let it run over to 16 minutes like anyone else than get an infringement for the sake of it

[trevor.skier]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up.. then 30min break before u hit 4hrs 30min of driving.
Or just do a full 45 min break. I always add 2 minutes on.
15 min break - 17min on tacho
30 min break - 32 min on tacho
45 min break - 47 min on tacho
It's not hard.. this is basics.. u should know this before u start doing truck driving work.

I was once told by a French police man that they like to see a few minutes over on breaks, 15, 30 & 45 minutes exactly looks a bit suspicious! So I’m always happy to go over a few minutes

[HumputtoMr]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up.. then 30min break before u hit 4hrs 30min of driving.
Or just do a full 45 min break. I always add 2 minutes on.
15 min break - 17min on tacho
30 min break - 32 min on tacho
45 min break - 47 min on tacho
It's not hard.. this is basics.. u should know this before u start doing truck driving work.

spot on that’s what I do fells

[dautie02]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up.. then 30min break before u hit 4hrs 30min of driving.
Or just do a full 45 min break. I always add 2 minutes on.
15 min break - 17min on tacho
30 min break - 32 min on tacho
45 min break - 47 min on tacho
It's not hard.. this is basics.. u should know this before u start doing truck driving work.

spot on that’s what I do fells

doing the same thing as Hoffelcy
doesn’t make him, or both of you right though when it comes to how a tacho actually works.

[dautie02]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up.. then 30min break before u hit 4hrs 30min of driving.
Or just do a full 45 min break. I always add 2 minutes on.
15 min break - 17min on tacho
30 min break - 32 min on tacho
45 min break - 47 min on tacho
It's not hard.. this is basics.. u should know this before u start doing truck driving work.

there is absolutely no need to add minutes on when taking breaks using a tacho. If it says 15/30/45 on the tacho, then that’s exactly what they are.
It’s ironic that you are criticising someone for not knowing something, when you don’t actually know yourself.

who the f**k are u to tell me I don't know nothing about the tacho!!??
There's absolutely nothing wrong with going 1 or 2 mins over so that u know its definitely recorded that amount of break. U talk absolute bollocks....
If u change it over to working time, dead on 15, 30 or 45, chances are it won't record properly. I've been doing this job for the last 12 years.. & never had any issues with the tacho...
Class 2, 12 years experience, class 1, 9 years experience... Plus ADR experience.

and as I’ve said numerous times now, you won’t get infringements for too much break.
On a side note, please try to reduce the amount of profanity you seem to need to use to put your point across. (See group rule 5). Cheers

[MoorElite]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up.. then 30min break before u hit 4hrs 30min of driving.
Or just do a full 45 min break. I always add 2 minutes on.
15 min break - 17min on tacho
30 min break - 32 min on tacho
45 min break - 47 min on tacho
It's not hard.. this is basics.. u should know this before u start doing truck driving work.

I always do 2 mins over it's better to be safe then sorry as some old tachos use to round up to nearest minute if remember correctly and wouldn't register as a full 45 min break

[Timefer]

40 min counted as 15min driving break not wtd

[jackLo_wary]

Always break for 16 mins and 31 mins to make sure you've definitely taken enough time on your break.

[jackLo_wary]

If you had a 40 minute break you only had to break for another 5 mins then you would have had complete reset and been able to drive for 4h 30m until you had to break again.

[muggler]

it’s not your fault, happens to all newly qualified drivers. Next time you do CPC do the drivers hours module.

[gigang]

Did u go over 4.5hrs driving ?. If not it’s a WTD scenario and u are fine although Tacho works to drive times hence it flashing.

[McCorlders]

!!!

[Thirkey]

This is where everyone laughs at me but you haven’t stated what your driving time was ..
you may off covered your working time but if you had 15 mins left on your driving time then it would flash up 15 mins left
If splitting breaks then it’s always 15 first then 30 .. only the first 15 of your 40 mins break counted towards your driving time.

[Burlinte]

Clucking bell don't anyone read the rule book anymore min split 15/30 not 30/15 anymore ! Personally I do 30/30 to be sure savvy ! Plus a couple xtra

[jonathro]

Why move off on 40 wen you were that close to a full 45 it doesn't make sense...that 40 was wasted as only 15 min break would of counted...never be in a hurry fir 5 mins

[liam_LL]

Something not right with what you're saying, Christmas tree lights should of said you need 30 minutes of a break, not 15 minutes. So you incorrect with your time's

[MattheGo]

Depends how much muting drop you do ...
Personally I aim to get 15mins in before the tlend of my 6hrs (wtd) but if time it right so 5:45 working time , then take 30mins you cover your first 6hrs with the first 15, and the following 3 with the the second half of it ... covers you for 9hrs (wtd) , but if your likely to run out of driving time split it to a 15m in the first 6hrs and 30 when needed

[Grah1tion]

always 15 first then 30

[nagy3dsva]

How much cost your cpc? i would like too trained you

[lewisha10]

That first break of 40 minutes is only classed as a 15minute break so second break should have been 30minutes minimum

[Vitalife]

You split it in wrong way. It always has to be 15+30

[shaunissUr]

I do multi drop, never more than 4 1/2 hrs driving a day, I take 46 mins minimum within 6 hours of putting card in, that then covers driving and WTD,

[neill3derp]

Ignore all the comments but if you've had 40 minutes break who in there right mind wouldn't just wait another 5 minutes to clear your card and your working time directive!!!!!

[liam_LL]

Ignore all the comments but if you've had 40 minutes break who in there right mind wouldn't just wait another 5 minutes to clear your card and your working time directive!!!!!

it might not if you take it to early

[neill3derp]

Ignore all the comments but if you've had 40 minutes break who in there right mind wouldn't just wait another 5 minutes to clear your card and your working time directive!!!!!

it might not if you take it to early

you only have to leave it 1 minute if it's old tachograph new ones are to the second

[farrepo]

Ignore all the comments but if you've had 40 minutes break who in there right mind wouldn't just wait another 5 minutes to clear your card and your working time directive!!!!!

it might not if you take it to early

you only have to leave it 1 minute if it's old tachograph new ones are to the second

because that could mean taking a 45 later in the shift Instead of a 30

[MICHARDEN]

If you split it it's a 15 (16min) and then a 30 (31min) cannot be reversed.

[dautie02]

If you split it it's a 15 (16min) and then a 30 (31min) cannot be reversed.

there’s no need for those extra minutes on a tacho. 15/30/45 on the tacho are exactly that, 15/30/45.

[vasilife]

It's fine as long as after you exceed 9h you won't get stopped by DVSA before your 2nd break of 20min

[scotterco-557]

Should take notice during cpc . First page stuff .

[dautie02]

Should take notice during cpc . First page stuff .

new drivers who do mods 2 and 4 don’t do anything on the WTD and driving hours……

[allents]

Should take notice during cpc . First page stuff .

new drivers who do mods 2 and 4 don’t do anything on the WTD and driving hours……

they do. It’s part of the theory test

[evanshi]

Wtd that is

[FryorPatricia]

Simple things in life and some still can't master it

[crookketf]

15m in the first 6hrs and 30 when needed

[Rigee.hope]

No comment, yes I know it’s a comment but ffs

[overingeLil]

if you have done a cpc you should know it 15 mins then 30 mins

[Phillman]

15min break before 6hr WTD comes up

[YIDDONEXT]

Even if your first break is a 44 your second one will still need to be a 30. Always a 30 on the second one - as others have said- should’ve just waited for five more minutes on that 40!!

[ENGGERB]

Unbelievable.
Hand in your notice

[her4rysca]

Can't have 15 mins second break must be min 30

[DixonFix]

Basic mate its 15 then a 30

[atkinscoJr]

15 then a 30

[WoodNoff]

This can't be serious

[deck2gesh]

WTD

[keltKelvon]

40min break only counted for a 15 min break

[HamelJonec]

I was always taught 16 then 31 on split or 46 mins after 4,5 hours am 53 now had hgv since 21

[Brian+Orion]

Tge 40min break only counted for a 15 min break.
The 20 min break wouldn't count for anything as needed to be 30

[GlenBall]

Just do a print out and say unable to stop in safe place and traffic.

[jamesst1276]

Why did u take 40mins why not wait the extra 6 mins and make it a 45 min break cos we all know there not 110% accurate

[HumputtoMr]

Why did you have 40 mins ? Why not have your full 45min

[HumputtoMr]

Always have 16 min not 15 mins and 31 mins and if your. Having 45 have 46mins

[AndyGrandee]

6 to 9 hrs is only a 30 minute break in total on wtd assuming haven't driven over 4 1/2 hrs it's that simple if worked over 9 hrs total of 45mins

[robbes]

30 minute break

[Scottines]

Unbelievable I'm sure you should have known this before you ever got behind the wheel

[darrenin]

Unbelievable I'm sure you should have known this before you ever got behind the wheel

it’s not just the loads that are special types these days mate our industry is f**ked mate full of em

[Hopkinn344]

How do people not know how to use a tacho what is wrong with you

[Fiellety]

Why move at 40??? Have the 45 n clear ya clock??

[simon.carch]

Wow this woke all the experts up didn't it

[alanceit]

Can’t believe you didn’t stay another five minutes for a 45