What are people’s thoughts? Not sure if I should bother appealing this but on m6 j2/3 stranded vehicle in lane one

[Joss.Well]

Not sure if I should bother appealing this but on m6 j2/3 stranded vehicle in lane one so red x on gantry I moved to lane 2 and once past the stranded vehicle I moved back into lane 1 as I could see it was clear ahead however lane did still have red x above and I’ve been given £100 fine and 3 points. The fine fair enough but the points is a piss take as I was past the vehicle that caused the red x.
What are people’s thoughts?

[NeDallast0]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

[Joss.Well]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

unfortunately not the vehicle I was in has an issue with the onboard camera and only holds a few weeks of footage

[NeDallast0]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

unfortunately not the vehicle I was in has an issue with the onboard camera and only holds a few weeks of footage

should be camered on thr road, not sure how you would get there footage haha good luck 100% appeal though

[matt.33]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

Appeal what? The guy drove under a red X, he’d have right to appeal if he had no other option, but he chose to use the closed lane which was clearly marked as closed with a red X, there is no appeal whatsoever

[Joss.Well]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

Appeal what? The guy drove under a red X, he’d have right to appeal if he had no other option, but he chose to use the closed lane which was clearly marked as closed with a red X, there is no appeal whatsoever

true it had a red x but 500 yards down the road I was open again so I thought would be ok but I guess not

[matt.33]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

Appeal what? The guy drove under a red X, he’d have right to appeal if he had no other option, but he chose to use the closed lane which was clearly marked as closed with a red X, there is no appeal whatsoever

true it had a red x but 500 yards down the road I was open again so I thought would be ok but I guess not

that’s an expensive thought mate

[Joss.Well]

Appeal what? The guy drove under a red X, he’d have right to appeal if he had no other option, but he chose to use the closed lane which was clearly marked as closed with a red X, there is no appeal whatsoever

true it had a red x but 500 yards down the road I was open again so I thought would be ok but I guess not

that’s an expensive thought mate

tell me about it

[Garyston]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

if you go to court they will supply it

[KeChamp]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

no chance as he actually broke the law because the sign did not display lane clear or have 2x blank displays.

[KeChamp]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

Not even aloud to leave a slip road in between.

[Joss.Well]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

no chance as he actually broke the law because the sign did not display lane clear or have 2x blank displays.

really?

[Joss.Well]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

Not even aloud to leave a slip road in between.

I didn’t know that

[KeChamp]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

Not even aloud to leave a slip road in between.

I didn’t know that

yeah I didn’t realise till I had to do a motorway awareness course.

[NeDallast0]

Appeal, no choice by sound of it, any dash cam footage to back up

Not even aloud to leave a slip road in between.

Considering the lane was blocked what else would you do ? Hahaha anyone read it haha

[matt.33]

You’d have no chance appealing that, if the gantry sign has a red X you are to assume that lane is closed until informed otherwise

[Joss.Well]

You’d have no chance appealing that, if the gantry sign has a red X you are to assume that lane is closed until informed otherwise

that what I was thinking they would say

[matt.33]

You’d have no chance appealing that, if the gantry sign has a red X you are to assume that lane is closed until informed otherwise

that what I was thinking they would say

Have they sent you the intended prosecution letter yet, im not 100% but you may get the offer of a driver awareness course

[Joss.Well]

You’d have no chance appealing that, if the gantry sign has a red X you are to assume that lane is closed until informed otherwise

that what I was thinking they would say

Have they sent you the intended prosecution letter yet, im not 100% but you may get the offer of a driver awareness course

yes got a letter funny thing is I got caught speeding going the other way a few weeks ago prior and I had just booked a course for that and two after I booked it I got this one through the post

[KeChamp]

that what I was thinking they would say

Have they sent you the intended prosecution letter yet, im not 100% but you may get the offer of a driver awareness course

yes got a letter funny thing is I got caught speeding going the other way a few weeks ago prior and I had just booked a course for that and two after I booked it I got this one through the post

it depends if your doing a motorway awareness course or a speed awareness course you can be offered both.

[Coopen]

that what I was thinking they would say

Have they sent you the intended prosecution letter yet, im not 100% but you may get the offer of a driver awareness course

yes got a letter funny thing is I got caught speeding going the other way a few weeks ago prior and I had just booked a course for that and two after I booked it I got this one through the post

different offence this from speeding so depending how nice they want to be may get the course offer.

[Whernage]

that what I was thinking they would say

Have they sent you the intended prosecution letter yet, im not 100% but you may get the offer of a driver awareness course

yes got a letter funny thing is I got caught speeding going the other way a few weeks ago prior and I had just booked a course for that and two after I booked it I got this one through the post

think you need an awareness course..its obvious your concentration is stretched..

[Nolance]

Can’t move back in till
Gantry all clear and national speed limit sign shows

[Spennso]

Can’t move back in till
Gantry all clear and national speed limit sign shows

Then I'd have been hogging the middle lane for miles on many occasions as a lot of times they don't bother with reinstating the lane/NSL. Perhaps they should be fined when they don't close down and reinstate correctly.

[torstebo]

Can’t move back in till
Gantry all clear and national speed limit sign shows

Then I'd have been hogging the middle lane for miles on many occasions as a lot of times they don't bother with reinstating the lane/NSL. Perhaps they should be fined when they don't close down and reinstate correctly.

that is your only appeal point if after the car there wasn't anything on any gantry

[RobertBe]

Can’t move back in till
Gantry all clear and national speed limit sign shows

Then I'd have been hogging the middle lane for miles on many occasions as a lot of times they don't bother with reinstating the lane/NSL. Perhaps they should be fined when they don't close down and reinstate correctly.

that is your only appeal point if after the car there wasn't anything on any gantry

Definitely, they should be fined for not reopening the lanes they closed, ot they should be fined and threatened to lose their job whenever they fail to operate their own VMSs (which seems to be the case most of the times). Just like HSBC bosses should be personally responsible for what their bank's doing. But they are not. It's someone always someone else we prefer to punish, we usually prefer to punish those affected who did nothing wrong, not those responsible. Wasn't this a common knowledge already?

[Joss.Well]

3 points is abit harsh tho

[2902_galbyo]

3 points is abit harsh tho

It's the same offence as jumping a red light. Which is 3 points and a £100 fine.

[old4dernut]

Take it on the chin mate you'll get nowhere appealing, if the red X was still showing they'll say the lane wasn't safe to move back into

[Joss.Well]

Never had points before just worried what it will do to my insurance

[Simonie]

Never had points before just worried what it will do to my insurance

3pts will jump it up by another £50

[thorlext]

Never had points before just worried what it will do to my insurance

write a letter explaining you think points are harsh but you accept the fine although you thought all was good to go back into lane but I am now going be punished for five years on my car insurance.
When I got points and 80 pound for having break on hardshoulder coming out of services I wrote letter points removed fine went up to 225 which I accepted

[jurain]

How do u know there was nothing else in Lane one

[Joss.Well]

How do u know there was nothing else in Lane one

I could see where it all opened again

[jurain]

How do u know there was nothing else in Lane one

I could see where it all opened again

then that is harsh. Try to appeal but I doubt your success.

[Hutchin]

Doubt you’ll get anywhere as still showing, but no harm in trying to appeal it

[Joss.Well]

Doubt you’ll get anywhere as still showing, but no harm in trying to appeal it

problem being I don’t have anything to support my side

[Timefer]

Doubt you’ll get anywhere as still showing, but no harm in trying to appeal it

problem being I don’t have anything to support my side

is that because you blatantly ignored a traffic instruction

[Stantics]

Doubt you’ll get anywhere as still showing, but no harm in trying to appeal it

problem being I don’t have anything to support my side

buy a dashcam

[EricarroThugs]

Doubt you’ll get anywhere as still showing, but no harm in trying to appeal it

problem being I don’t have anything to support my side

your car insurance will know about it as well.so you will be punished on your car insurance .

[farrepo]

Doubt you’ll get anywhere as still showing, but no harm in trying to appeal it

the harm is to appeal it means not accepting the fpn and opting for court instead, which is time and money to attend and chances are you'll get worse than the fpn offer

[Hutchin]

Doubt you’ll get anywhere as still showing, but no harm in trying to appeal it

the harm is to appeal it means not accepting the fpn and opting for court instead, which is time and money to attend and chances are you'll get worse than the fpn offer

if they are already giving £100 fine and 3 points I don’t see what else they can give?

[Deangy88]

Doubt you’ll get anywhere as still showing, but no harm in trying to appeal it

the harm is to appeal it means not accepting the fpn and opting for court instead, which is time and money to attend and chances are you'll get worse than the fpn offer

if they are already giving £100 fine and 3 points I don’t see what else they can give?

a larger fine and court costs!

[farrepo]

Doubt you’ll get anywhere as still showing, but no harm in trying to appeal it

the harm is to appeal it means not accepting the fpn and opting for court instead, which is time and money to attend and chances are you'll get worse than the fpn offer

if they are already giving £100 fine and 3 points I don’t see what else they can give?

quite often opting for court instead of the fpn and you're found guilty, then it'll be bigger fine, more points

[Grantille]

the harm is to appeal it means not accepting the fpn and opting for court instead, which is time and money to attend and chances are you'll get worse than the fpn offer

if they are already giving £100 fine and 3 points I don’t see what else they can give?

quite often opting for court instead of the fpn and you're found guilty, then it'll be bigger fine, more points

You don't know that there isn't further issues up the road, would thought it then becomes based on your wages, so being a lorry driver that will either be a £200k fine or £20 fine depends what the daily mail says that week on what we earn

[wiffenti]

Don't they offer courses for red x now as well

[nathanfox]

Don't they offer courses for red x now as well

nope. Zero tolerance now on drivers passing closed lane signs on motorways.

[Timefer]

Don't they offer courses for red x now as well

hope not

[AndyAut]

Don't they offer courses for red x now as well

it’s a motorway awareness course they offer

[Liamph]

I thought they offered courses for red x lanes, have u been on a course of any sort in the last 3 years? Bit harsh straight to 3 points, I've known someone who went through red x and they were offered a course

[Joss.Well]

I thought they offered courses for red x lanes, have u been on a course of any sort in the last 3 years? Bit harsh straight to 3 points, I've known someone who went through red x and they were offered a course

is had just booked a speed awareness course 2 days before I got this through the post as had been bought speeding 2weeks prior

[Liamph]

I thought they offered courses for red x lanes, have u been on a course of any sort in the last 3 years? Bit harsh straight to 3 points, I've known someone who went through red x and they were offered a course

is had just booked a speed awareness course 2 days before I got this through the post as had been bought speeding 2weeks prior

ahhh that probably explains why, the red x never used to give out points until a few years ago, I still think it's a bit harsh but that's my opinion, a fine yes but points no, I'd rather have a £1000 fine than any points

[SmithMr]

I thought they offered courses for red x lanes, have u been on a course of any sort in the last 3 years? Bit harsh straight to 3 points, I've known someone who went through red x and they were offered a course

is had just booked a speed awareness course 2 days before I got this through the post as had been bought speeding 2weeks prior

So you were speeding one week and going down red x lanes the next? Maybe a time out from driving is needed so the rest of us are safer on the road

[nigelec]

I thought they offered courses for red x lanes, have u been on a course of any sort in the last 3 years? Bit harsh straight to 3 points, I've known someone who went through red x and they were offered a course

is had just booked a speed awareness course 2 days before I got this through the post as had been bought speeding 2weeks prior

caught speeding aswell prior to this, is their a reoccurring thing here , no chance with the red

[AndyAut]

I thought they offered courses for red x lanes, have u been on a course of any sort in the last 3 years? Bit harsh straight to 3 points, I've known someone who went through red x and they were offered a course

is had just booked a speed awareness course 2 days before I got this through the post as had been bought speeding 2weeks prior

you can still do both courses speeding one and red x one is motorway awareness course

[Stantics]

I thought they offered courses for red x lanes, have u been on a course of any sort in the last 3 years? Bit harsh straight to 3 points, I've known someone who went through red x and they were offered a course

is had just booked a speed awareness course 2 days before I got this through the post as had been bought speeding 2weeks prior

So you were speeding one week and going down red x lanes the next? Maybe a time out from driving is needed so the rest of us are safer on the road

shut up you muppet and your so perfect are you ffs ALWAYS ONE

[SmithMr]

is had just booked a speed awareness course 2 days before I got this through the post as had been bought speeding 2weeks prior

So you were speeding one week and going down red x lanes the next? Maybe a time out from driving is needed so the rest of us are safer on the road

shut up you muppet and your so perfect are you ffs ALWAYS ONE

*You’re

[Stantics]

So you were speeding one week and going down red x lanes the next? Maybe a time out from driving is needed so the rest of us are safer on the road

shut up you muppet and your so perfect are you ffs ALWAYS ONE

*You’re

prxxk

[HarryUnow]

I thought they offered courses for red x lanes, have u been on a course of any sort in the last 3 years? Bit harsh straight to 3 points, I've known someone who went through red x and they were offered a course

is had just booked a speed awareness course 2 days before I got this through the post as had been bought speeding 2weeks prior

So you were speeding one week and going down red x lanes the next? Maybe a time out from driving is needed so the rest of us are safer on the road

think he might get an invitation to see the commissioner in due course as well .

[ZESLARD]

I thought they offered courses for red x lanes, have u been on a course of any sort in the last 3 years? Bit harsh straight to 3 points, I've known someone who went through red x and they were offered a course

is had just booked a speed awareness course 2 days before I got this through the post as had been bought speeding 2weeks prior

if you was caught speeding on a normal road then you can do a course on the motorway as its a different course.

[JulieeZierr]

I thought they offered courses for red x lanes, have u been on a course of any sort in the last 3 years? Bit harsh straight to 3 points, I've known someone who went through red x and they were offered a course

see if you can do the motorway awareness course

[HarZest]

Fact is mate the lane still had the X in it, so Yep you are a naughty boy and will have to suffer the fine. A valuable lesson learnt mate

[Joss.Well]

Fact is mate the lane still had the X in it, so Yep you are a naughty boy and will have to suffer the fine. A valuable lesson learnt mate

I agree with the fine just not the points

[HarZest]

Fact is mate the lane still had the X in it, so Yep you are a naughty boy and will have to suffer the fine. A valuable lesson learnt mate

I agree with the fine just not the points

Unfortunately lad you gotta suffer it.

[malcolex]

Christmas party funds needed pay up with a smile knowing the muppets will have a great time

[STEPHIXEL]

Unfortunately ignorance is not an excuse you being a professional driver you should know better.....only know this because one of my colleagues just done a coarse for a similar offence but he was offered a coarse.....not sure how the offer of the coarse actually goes if you've been told of this offence by your work it might be offered when they letter you at home

[Timefer]

No chance of a win. The vehicle you passed may not have been the original reason for the cross

[hopper]

I don't think you can move back over until you get the all clear sign.
A but like a speed limit sign.
You're still in the speed limit until you pass a sign saying you're not.

[LunStein]

I don't think you can move back over until you get the all clear sign.
A but like a speed limit sign.
You're still in the speed limit until you pass a sign saying you're not.

your right because I got done going from 30mph to a 40 limit

[NickHelp]

Had you passed a clear line sign? No? Your stuffed mate!

[Galle.Dept]

This is the exact reason accidents happen though, because people don’t obey the rules of the road, if it’s a red x just stay out of the lane till it’s reopened, just impatient and it’s cost you. Too many people just whizz up the empty lanes because they can see it’s clear but at the end of the day it’s a lane closure regardless of the fact you can see it’s clear

[hybe]

Red x for a reason . They tell you when you use the lane not when you choose . Suck it up buttercup and take the points

[joshun00]

No chance on appeal matey
Red X could have been continuous for another stranded vehicle?

[colleeKylerr]

It's harsh yes, but you drove in a lane marked with a red X, unfortunately you broke the law.. take it on the chin bud..

[carlLime]

You’ll lose because the lane is closed