What are people’s thoughts? Not sure if I should bother appealing this but on m6 j2/3 stranded vehicle in lane one

[mcArmarchy]

Haven't got a leg to stand on with that...a red X is mandatory regardless

[Stonee-Riya]

Money making

[Seanza]

Money making

only when people ignore the signs..

[Hodgesis]

Your fault don't drive through red X

[moy4kruss]

Be careful because £100 and 3 points is actually a discount they give to people for quickly accepting their guilt and not wasting the courts time. If you challenge it ij court and lose it you will end with more than 3 points and higher fine.

[jasoniz]

Learn from it and educate others the consequences of not following the rules..

[christorx]

End of the day you drove on a lane for all you know there could of been another incident further down I work on the motorway breakdowns and so many people don’t understand how dangerous it is when your standing in a live lane

[Darrenco]

End of the day you drove on a lane for all you know there could of been another incident further down I work on the motorway breakdowns and so many people don’t understand how dangerous it is when your standing in a live lane

same here spend most of my work days on highways some of the things I have seen I couldn't say on here

[Elleerti]

The fact of the matter is you drove under a red
I know you said you were past the hazard but who is to say there weren’t more vehicles involved further along.
I know it’s silly and there probably wasn’t but in the eyes of the law you should stay out of the lane until indicated otherwise.
Appeal by all means but I don’t imagine you will be let off pal
We go to work to make a bit of money and end up getting fined

[shane-down]

A red X is a red X. Just because you've passed one vehicle doesn't mean that there couldn't be something ahead that you can't see. There's no excuse for driving in a closed lane bud. Yeah you might have seen it was clear, but until that lane reopens it's not worth the risk of points and a fine to move over.

[Deangy88]

The was still showing so there could potentially have been another obstruction further on. Whether there was or not you didn’t know.
You should move over as soon as you see the arrow informing you to move over and stay out until the gantry sign is either clear or has a national speed limit sign above.
If you appeal your opening yourself upto a bigger fine, court costs and possibly a driving with undue care and attention prosecution.

[Alantone]

Same thing more or less..exit from M25 to M1 slip road had been closed..Red X still on..but clearly open and overnight roadworks been cleared..I got a warning letter saying as it was my 1st offence no action would be taken but if I did it again they'd prosecute...you could maybe use that in an appeal..that some just get a warning for 1st offence..assuming its your 1st time.

[Waynebu]

I wouldn’t appeal take it on the chin I appealed for another offence and when it went back to court again my fine was doubled not worth it you won’t win

[KinDeepy]

Red X could also have been there for a further incident further along in that lane.

[marci3they]

There could have been another accident though up ahead. If you just done what you were supposed to then no 3 points or fine

[RichvonLex]

Might not of been the only vehicle in the lane stranded I’ve had same and 300 yards up another vehicle stranded

[BurtonNyc]

Might not of been the only vehicle in the lane stranded I’ve had same and 300 yards up another vehicle stranded

I have seen them say use hard shoulder due to congestion and motor home broke down on it. A lot of their smart motorway cameras to check on traffic flow / breakdowns not working and can take days to fix. Even seen a Foreign driver, park up in the emergency refuge of a smart motorway and had parked up for the night with his curtains closed.

[GRAEGINE]

They will just say you shouldn't assume it was only the one vehicle. Don't think you'll get anywhere on appeal.

[Jeffines]

You've used common sense, that's the problem here

[jonallz]

An X is an X … can’t use lane until it says so

[Sullivate]

If it on a RED X it closed till informed other wise by overhead signs fed up of cars vans and trucks going into red x lanes as if thay are more important than you or there deliveries are more urgent than yours

[Clivem_Co]

If you argue it they’ll just say you shouldn’t move over till the all clear is shown, even though you’d passed the stranded vehicle they’ll say there could have been debris or another hazard you hadn’t seen. I agree 3 points is a bit unfair but common sense is no defence for anything these days unfortunately.

[Jaymiro]

Appeal it 3points is extreme, still should know better accept everything but the points

[Eddieon]

I did a motorway awareness course last year instead of points, and part of it pointed out not to move back into lane with over it until either you’ve passed a sign saying otherwise or you’ve gone under two gantry’s neither been giving any info then you’re safe to say it’s open

[LanniUncanny]

Trouble is some knob in a control room puts the red x up 26 junctions before the stranded vehicle and for 8 junctions after

[stuartKid]

Red X there is your answer

[carlid_gend]

I’m afraid you got penalised for using your brain on this one.
It’s always worth appealing and putting in comments like you already put and also saying traffic was building up behind you etc
Say you are a professional driver and hopefully talk your way out of it that way.
Put it this way, if every person that got tickets appealed then the system would be inundated and loads of tickets would be cancelled.

[danny1izer]

You ignored a red x just like speed signs unless told otherwise you follow the signs. You wont win a appeal.

[NeedLex]

I was travelling up M1 over 4 years ago at 2.30am .Lanes 1,23 all red X's. Speed limit 40mph. Nothing on road and was going on for miles sat in lane 4. I was flashed at 48mph. 3 points and £100.
Don't think you'll get any joy fella. Bloody joys of driving today unfortunately.

[gareth+emm]

Could have been a 2nd stranded vehicle.

[bedxonyse]

If the is still showing, the lane is still classed as closed , so you wouldn’t get away with it ,even you did appeal

[peteratu]

you can argue with stupidity of the matrix. however if it was red, stay out. Appeal it

[ARTHURAS]

The argument the court will use is how did you onownyou were past the danger.

[OreiOryx]

You went back in the closed lane before passing the open lane gantry . Easy mistake as a clear view you could see the open lane gantry . Take it on the chin mate.

[nottMargo]

Sounds like ya in the wrong job mate , not adhering to road signs, speeding ever thought about joining the police force

[PoPaulired]

Harsh as f**k but you’re admitting fault in your post. You knew there was an but moved back in to the lane anyway. You can appeal but you won’t get anywhere.

[Eriky1846]

Going by the law, you should not go in a lane with the red X showing. How ever if you have on board camera s that you can download, l would appeal, As sometimes, it can take a while for motorway control to turn them off . Hope this helps.

[BuzzBarry]

Not much hope of you getting off sorry to say. It's inforced until the gantry sign show's a speed or end of restriction sign. Hundreds appealed the M5 M4 split sign saying 20 mph and still got points and fine, even though it was a mistake, the judge rulled the law is the law.

[DealMakee]

Treat t red x as you would a speed limit . It's restricted until signage states otherwise

[taff+roch]

I had same few months back, but had joined m5 at j5 southbound. Both nearside lanes had Xs on em so indicated to move into 3rd lane, bstards done me...Rang em & said am I supposed to jump over 2 said lanes off slip road, not our pro was response....

[Brookay]

Red X could have been something else. Don’t go in a red X lane

[jordan_win]

You should stay in lane 2 untill the next gantry says you can move back across. Not that any of us do, just unlucky you got caught.

[Gazzazo]

Red X

[WellsBoz]

Could have been another stranded vehicle up ahead of that one.

[Stantics]

Tell me about it nat speed limit
40mph
National speed limit between jun 2 and 3 i thought they forgot to turn signs off got flashed at 52 f**king arseholes no road works or pedestrians in road ffs or animals they just using it as a cash generator

[raenord]

It’s a what part of not driving in that lane do you not understand deserve everything you get

[DUNCANO]

Same as school 20 slow temporary sign, even if school holiday can be a school thing thing on

[KeithPlay]

Lesson learnt !!!!!

[Wisend]

You fought the law, and the law one. You're an idiot.

[euonymous]

Myself would appeal it but I would bring in defense that as you had past the incident you assumed that ment you could move back over as from experience the highway agency doesn't get signage right. Number of times I've gone through incidents like this and the signs having speed limits say 50 then all off a sudden they are blank some times 10 miles up road you get national speed sign and sometime nothing at all.

[brady+thco]

Driving in a lane marked with a RED X is the same as driving through cones in roadworks .

[sti3sorp]

You done the crime, so do the time & pay the fine

[nigellace]

The red x is in force until either;
You see a national speed limit displayed on a gantry for that lane,
Or,
You pass 2 gantries with nothing displayed, which means all clear, national speed limit applies.

[robbes]

The laws the law…suck it up and learn from it

[Albertec]

There’s always the possibility the lane is still closed due to another obstruction further on, so drivers shouldn’t move back into it.
I know it’s more likely there’s no obstruction at all in a lot of cases, even so…

[overic]

Never drive under a red x simple

[daniel_deep]

There might have been a stranded further on

[Johnixtu]

if you haven’t done it before you will get the option of a motorway awareness course …

[HarryUnow]

if you haven’t done it before you will get the option of a motorway awareness course …

he’s already booked on one apparently ,so gets caught the next day doing another offence I’d say commissioners office door might be wide open for his visit at some time .

[Johnixtu]

if you haven’t done it before you will get the option of a motorway awareness course …

he’s already booked on one apparently ,so gets caught the next day doing another offence I’d say commissioners office door might be wide open for his visit at some time .

boo!

[HarryUnow]

if you haven’t done it before you will get the option of a motorway awareness course …

he’s already booked on one apparently ,so gets caught the next day doing another offence I’d say commissioners office door might be wide open for his visit at some time .

boo!

I’ve been infront of the commissioner for speeding in my car many years ago ended up with 3 months ban .

[Johnixtu]

he’s already booked on one apparently ,so gets caught the next day doing another offence I’d say commissioners office door might be wide open for his visit at some time .

boo!

I’ve been infront of the commissioner for speeding in my car many years ago ended up with 3 months ban .

seems harsh if you’re in a car …!…

[HarryUnow]

boo!

I’ve been infront of the commissioner for speeding in my car many years ago ended up with 3 months ban .

seems harsh if you’re in a car …!…

70 in a 50 and that was 20 years ago .

[Johnixtu]

I’ve been infront of the commissioner for speeding in my car many years ago ended up with 3 months ban .

seems harsh if you’re in a car …!…

70 in a 50 and that was 20 years ago .

actually thinking about it i got done on my bike a couple of years ago (sp50) - just got 3 points

[LongRpg]

So… you knowingly went into a lane with a red X, and now you’re moaning about being given points and a fine?
Have I got that right?

[StacyMS]

Never move back over until the matrix signs say it’s ok.

[BillStill]

Don’t go in a lane marked with a

[hurl8onco]

You really need to ask that question, if there was still a red x, then you should not be in that lane. Simple really and you got exactly what you deserve

[Patricon]

It’s a disgusting penalty you have been given, I would appeal if.

[Thompse]

Corrupt UEFA refs, it must something in the water, even the Olympics boxing judges are at it

[geraldom]

Lane closed “X”means closed,all their say is NEXT, good luck

[Wallium_Wzy]

HarZest, not always the case, on the M1 at junction 16 there were signs (physical ones) that said the left lane was shut after the junction but there was a red x on the gantry before junction 16. As I wanted to come off there I put my left indicator on to show the cameras that I was coming off, other people didn't know what to do so they moved over then moved back as we got to the junction. I contacted the police about the confusion and they responded that you shouldn't be in a red x lane but the police also said that the junction should be shut off which it wasn't so it falls down to the commissioner (which is a grey area) in sure more people complained as 2 days later the red x was taken down.

[HarZest]

HarZest, not always the case, on the M1 at junction 16 there were signs (physical ones) that said the left lane was shut after the junction but there was a red x on the gantry before junction 16. As I wanted to come off there I put my left indicator on to show the cameras that I was coming off, other people didn't know what to do so they moved over then moved back as we got to the junction. I contacted the police about the confusion and they responded that you shouldn't be in a red x lane but the police also said that the junction should be shut off which it wasn't so it falls down to the commissioner (which is a grey area) in sure more people complained as 2 days later the red x was taken down.

A Red X is a Red X cross mate, and a Red cross is a money spinner.

[Wallium_Wzy]

HarZest, not always the case, on the M1 at junction 16 there were signs (physical ones) that said the left lane was shut after the junction but there was a red x on the gantry before junction 16. As I wanted to come off there I put my left indicator on to show the cameras that I was coming off, other people didn't know what to do so they moved over then moved back as we got to the junction. I contacted the police about the confusion and they responded that you shouldn't be in a red x lane but the police also said that the junction should be shut off which it wasn't so it falls down to the commissioner (which is a grey area) in sure more people complained as 2 days later the red x was taken down.

A Red X is a Red X cross mate, and a Red cross is a money spinner.

No I understand that, what my comment was is I don't like gray areas, it's one rule or it's not and the police did understand and said the same thing.

[Wallium_Wzy]

HarZest, not always the case, on the M1 at junction 16 there were signs (physical ones) that said the left lane was shut after the junction but there was a red x on the gantry before junction 16. As I wanted to come off there I put my left indicator on to show the cameras that I was coming off, other people didn't know what to do so they moved over then moved back as we got to the junction. I contacted the police about the confusion and they responded that you shouldn't be in a red x lane but the police also said that the junction should be shut off which it wasn't so it falls down to the commissioner (which is a grey area) in sure more people complained as 2 days later the red x was taken down.

A Red X is a Red X cross mate, and a Red cross is a money spinner.

I'll give you another example, from junction 16 to 18 one lane is shut there are physical signs that say the speed limit is 50 mph and there are average cameras along there, but the gantry says 60mph so which is it again a grey area.