My supervisor told me I got a bus lane fine and handed me a piece of paper with the details of it but there was no

[Morreen]

That'll be recorded on your tacho, ask them for a print out from that day.

we don’t use tacho

Need photo proof it was you driving then, if company can't id driver they will have to pay the fine!

here’s the photo, could be you driving

[MattyernV4]

we don’t use tacho

Need photo proof it was you driving then, if company can't id driver they will have to pay the fine!

here’s the photo, could be you driving

this is exactly why I have diary in my work bag. Every day I make a note of start/finish times, vehicle I've been using, start and end mileage, places I went and any issues I had that day etc.

[Morreen]

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[Spento]

Asked them to match you up on tacho to the time and date , if tacho rules apply ? , also most company's have a tracking system , so you would want double bubble info ? Throw that at them .

[Mikeso80]

100% proof needed

[brady+thco]

Check your tacho to see if you were actually driving that day ( ask the traffic office to look on tachometer at the date of the alleged offence to see if you were driving that vehicle that day )

[telmo1853]

Even if it genuinely is your fine that transport office hasn't done their job properly, so I'd put the ball back in their court and tell them to do it properly and send the PCN to the ticket office with your details on it.

[Daoz_Jean]

I've been told on various occasions about my company vehicle working in weight limit areas,
I've explained that the job that I do for the company means working in these areas...I said that any unauthorized deductions from my wages is stealing and I will contact my trade union to seek legal advice and recovery if deducted...win win these crafty lot.

[Wheeste.Jan]

Don't pay anything.
I got handed one in my last job and I was in spain, manager was a pure bellend and thought he would pin it on me.

[Morreen]

Don't pay anything.
I got handed one in my last job and I was in spain, manager was a pure bellend and thought he would pin it on me.

I think it might be easier to get away with in a different country

[Ianque]

Don't pay anything.
I got handed one in my last job and I was in spain, manager was a pure bellend and thought he would pin it on me.

I think it might be easier to get away with in a different country

think he means he was on holiday at time of offence

[colling]

If it's a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) then the registered keeper of the vehicle is liable NOT the driver.
The company may try to recover the money from you but they should have already paid it.

[forshi]

Were you driving the truck on the day and time in question? If so your bang to rights.
Show your picture you received from the council you work for to the council who issued fine. You may be able to receive the reduced fine now you can prove it’s only just come to light.

[Morreen]

Were you driving the truck on the day and time in question? If so your bang to rights.
Show your picture you received from the council you work for to the council who issued fine. You may be able to receive the reduced fine now you can prove it’s only just come to light.

I wasn’t given any proof it was me driving, I think I might of been given the follow up letter as nobody has paid the fine.

[forshi]

Were you driving the truck on the day and time in question? If so your bang to rights.
Show your picture you received from the council you work for to the council who issued fine. You may be able to receive the reduced fine now you can prove it’s only just come to light.

I wasn’t given any proof it was me driving, I think I might of been given the follow up letter as nobody has paid the fine.

well I’d give him the letter back and tell him to prove it was you via tacho details.

[jamexxli]

The pcn must be issued to the registered keeper within 28 days however if the vehicle is a lease or hire vehicle the hire company will inform the council of who is the hirer of the vehicle so you need to enquire if the company is the registered keeper.
Only the register keeper or hirer can appeal the pcn and they must also pay the pcn tye company can then reclaim the money from your wages if it's written into your contract and they give adequate notice

[JOELINVE]

If you've google history running you'll see if you where anywhere near said bus lane that day

[Morreen]

If you've google history running you'll see if you where anywhere near said bus lane that day

how do I do that

[Hamie2287]

If you've google history running you'll see if you where anywhere near said bus lane that day

how do I do that

go onto Google maps, click your profile image in the top right and hit timeline. Go back to that date and time, it should show you where you are.
That's if it's turned on.

[andreassLA]

You need to contact DVLA and inform them that you didn't receive the fine until said date, and state the reasons why, (proof would be a huge help here) and they may restart the 14 day period for you to pay the reduced fee.

[andreassLA]

You may be right, I never received a fine lol but he needs to contact whoever issued the fine.

[Morreen]

Gotta say that pic doesn’t clearly show who’s driving.
Also it shows the wagon cutting in at the end of the lane as you have to turn left there after the bus stops.

[Morreen]

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[forshi]

Gotta say that pic doesn’t clearly show who’s driving.
Also it shows the wagon cutting in at the end of the lane as you have to turn left there after the bus stops.

where did you get these from? Thought you just got a letter??

[Morreen]

Gotta say that pic doesn’t clearly show who’s driving.
Also it shows the wagon cutting in at the end of the lane as you have to turn left there after the bus stops.

where did you get these from? Thought you just got a letter??

someone on here told me I can get them off the council site using the PCN number

[forshi]

Gotta say that pic doesn’t clearly show who’s driving.
Also it shows the wagon cutting in at the end of the lane as you have to turn left there after the bus stops.

where did you get these from? Thought you just got a letter??

someone on here told me I can get them off the council site using the PCN number

ahh ok

[Kasion]

Is bus lane fine the one that owner of vehicle is on charge or the one that owner need to name a driver?
I would just say it wasn't me driving that vehicle that day. DO a tacho printout from that day to find out if you drove questioned vehicle.

[Morreen]

Is bus lane fine the one that owner of vehicle is on charge or the one that owner need to name a driver?
I would just say it wasn't me driving that vehicle that day. DO a tacho printout from that day to find out if you drove questioned vehicle.

we don’t use tacho

[Jenn1atro]

Is bus lane fine the one that owner of vehicle is on charge or the one that owner need to name a driver?
I would just say it wasn't me driving that vehicle that day. DO a tacho printout from that day to find out if you drove questioned vehicle.

we don’t use tacho

you can download the truck without your card in ... get the company to do it

[Morreen]

Is bus lane fine the one that owner of vehicle is on charge or the one that owner need to name a driver?
I would just say it wasn't me driving that vehicle that day. DO a tacho printout from that day to find out if you drove questioned vehicle.

we don’t use tacho

you can download the truck without your card in ... get the company to do it

I drive different wagons all the time so how would they know I was driving that wagon from the data

[Kasion]

Is bus lane fine the one that owner of vehicle is on charge or the one that owner need to name a driver?
I would just say it wasn't me driving that vehicle that day. DO a tacho printout from that day to find out if you drove questioned vehicle.

we don’t use tacho

but you can... to have evidence in situations like this. Or when your hours are missing.

[Jenn1atro]

we don’t use tacho

you can download the truck without your card in ... get the company to do it

I drive different wagons all the time so how would they know I was driving that wagon from the data

the download will tell you the date and vehicle no

[philArticles]

If it's not in your name, it isn't your fine. He needs to send it back and get it re sent to you.

[Morreen]

If it's not in your name, it isn't your fine. He needs to send it back and get it re sent to you.

isn’t it a bit late for them to send it back?
It happened in June.

[philArticles]

If it's not in your name, it isn't your fine. He needs to send it back and get it re sent to you.

isn’t it a bit late for them to send it back?
It happened in June.

yes, so it's a company problem now, not the driver.
It should of been sent back right away.

[Petel_Conor]

If it's not in your name, it isn't your fine. He needs to send it back and get it re sent to you.

isn’t it a bit late for them to send it back?
It happened in June.

his problem, not yours

[Morreen]

Will the union be any help?

[Morreen]

So after abit of reading the comments am I correct in thinking a letter would have originally been sent out asking who the driver was & the council would have had 28 (or is it 14 days?) days to name the driver who is to pay the fine.
That time has since been and gone which is why the letter I was given was still addressed to my depot so now the fine is to be paid by the council?

[Rowline]

So after abit of reading the comments am I correct in thinking a letter would have originally been sent out asking who the driver was & the council would have had 28 (or is it 14 days?) days to name the driver who is to pay the fine.
That time has since been and gone which is why the letter I was given was still addressed to my depot so now the fine is to be paid by the council?

no
The summons will
Come to the company to pay
No need to name the driver
I paid one less than 3 weeks ago
For One of my drivers 50% reduction too for early payment
This is a Bus lane fine isn’t it not a speeding fine
Speeding fine you have to name the driver

[Morreen]

So after abit of reading the comments am I correct in thinking a letter would have originally been sent out asking who the driver was & the council would have had 28 (or is it 14 days?) days to name the driver who is to pay the fine.
That time has since been and gone which is why the letter I was given was still addressed to my depot so now the fine is to be paid by the council?

no
The summons will
Come to the company to pay
No need to name the driver
I paid one less than 3 weeks ago
For One of my drivers 50% reduction too for early payment
This is a Bus lane fine isn’t it not a speeding fine
Speeding fine you have to name the driver

yes that would of been a nice option but the fines £90 now because it has been left so long

[Rowline]

So after abit of reading the comments am I correct in thinking a letter would have originally been sent out asking who the driver was & the council would have had 28 (or is it 14 days?) days to name the driver who is to pay the fine.
That time has since been and gone which is why the letter I was given was still addressed to my depot so now the fine is to be paid by the council?

no
The summons will
Come to the company to pay
No need to name the driver
I paid one less than 3 weeks ago
For One of my drivers 50% reduction too for early payment
This is a Bus lane fine isn’t it not a speeding fine
Speeding fine you have to name the driver

yes that would of been a nice option but the fines £90 now because it has been left so long

as far as I’m concerned the office has c**ked up and not paid on time
You are only responsible for the original amount

[Morreen]

no
The summons will
Come to the company to pay
No need to name the driver
I paid one less than 3 weeks ago
For One of my drivers 50% reduction too for early payment
This is a Bus lane fine isn’t it not a speeding fine
Speeding fine you have to name the driver

yes that would of been a nice option but the fines £90 now because it has been left so long

as far as I’m concerned the office has c**ked up and not paid on time
You are only responsible for the original amount

hopefully my work see it that way

[ricksWoodil]

In my experience. Working for a bus company,
They would have to specify the day, time and date and vehicle of which the incident occurred. You can then request driving data from the employer. (I'm sure there's a way to do this your self as well) This should say the vehicle registration you was driving. With this data you can prove the fine isn't to you.
The company will get a generic letter saying, one of their company vehicles has driver through a restricted area. It's up to the company to find the evidence to prove it was you before they can give it to you. You are entitled to this data under the data protection act.

[Morreen]

In my experience. Working for a bus company,
They would have to specify the day, time and date and vehicle of which the incident occurred. You can then request driving data from the employer. (I'm sure there's a way to do this your self as well) This should say the vehicle registration you was driving. With this data you can prove the fine isn't to you.
The company will get a generic letter saying, one of their company vehicles has driver through a restricted area. It's up to the company to find the evidence to prove it was you before they can give it to you. You are entitled to this data under the data protection act.

if your referring to tacho data we don’t use tachos

[ricksWoodil]

In my experience. Working for a bus company,
They would have to specify the day, time and date and vehicle of which the incident occurred. You can then request driving data from the employer. (I'm sure there's a way to do this your self as well) This should say the vehicle registration you was driving. With this data you can prove the fine isn't to you.
The company will get a generic letter saying, one of their company vehicles has driver through a restricted area. It's up to the company to find the evidence to prove it was you before they can give it to you. You are entitled to this data under the data protection act.

if your referring to tacho data we don’t use tachos

in that case then, your still entitled to ask for the evidence of which this notice has been given to you, surely the company will have a defect card system in place?

[parmitasso66]

In my experience. Working for a bus company,
They would have to specify the day, time and date and vehicle of which the incident occurred. You can then request driving data from the employer. (I'm sure there's a way to do this your self as well) This should say the vehicle registration you was driving. With this data you can prove the fine isn't to you.
The company will get a generic letter saying, one of their company vehicles has driver through a restricted area. It's up to the company to find the evidence to prove it was you before they can give it to you. You are entitled to this data under the data protection act.

if your referring to tacho data we don’t use tachos

you use daily check sheets and run sheets thou don’t you?

[Morreen]

In my experience. Working for a bus company,
They would have to specify the day, time and date and vehicle of which the incident occurred. You can then request driving data from the employer. (I'm sure there's a way to do this your self as well) This should say the vehicle registration you was driving. With this data you can prove the fine isn't to you.
The company will get a generic letter saying, one of their company vehicles has driver through a restricted area. It's up to the company to find the evidence to prove it was you before they can give it to you. You are entitled to this data under the data protection act.

if your referring to tacho data we don’t use tachos

you use daily check sheets and run sheets thou don’t you?

ah you mean daily vehicle check sheets?
Yes we do I might even have my own copy, I’ll have a look

[parmitasso66]

if your referring to tacho data we don’t use tachos

you use daily check sheets and run sheets thou don’t you?

ah you mean daily vehicle check sheets?
Yes we do I might even have my own copy, I’ll have a look

this is probably where the company has got their information that it was you that was driving the vehicle that day. Check your records and also ask at the company to see their records for the day in question. Every company must make provision in some form to be able to check back historically who was driving their vehicles on anyone particular day and time especially as they don’t use tachos!

[Morreen]

you use daily check sheets and run sheets thou don’t you?

ah you mean daily vehicle check sheets?
Yes we do I might even have my own copy, I’ll have a look

this is probably where the company has got their information that it was you that was driving the vehicle that day. Check your records and also ask at the company to see their records for the day in question. Every company must make provision in some form to be able to check back historically who was driving their vehicles on anyone particular day and time especially as they don’t use tachos!

omg I don’t think it was me driving if it was the 26th June
I took a photo from my wagon/cab that day and I wasn’t even on a city round!!

[parmitasso66]

ah you mean daily vehicle check sheets?
Yes we do I might even have my own copy, I’ll have a look

this is probably where the company has got their information that it was you that was driving the vehicle that day. Check your records and also ask at the company to see their records for the day in question. Every company must make provision in some form to be able to check back historically who was driving their vehicles on anyone particular day and time especially as they don’t use tachos!

omg I don’t think it was me driving if it was the 26th June
I took a photo from my wagon/cab that day and I wasn’t even on a city round!!

so go back in the morning and ask to check the daily vehicle check sheets for that day, they are legal documents and they have to be kept. If it was you then hold your hands up, if it wasn’t then happy days mate, good luck let us know the outcome!

[Morreen]

this is probably where the company has got their information that it was you that was driving the vehicle that day. Check your records and also ask at the company to see their records for the day in question. Every company must make provision in some form to be able to check back historically who was driving their vehicles on anyone particular day and time especially as they don’t use tachos!

omg I don’t think it was me driving if it was the 26th June
I took a photo from my wagon/cab that day and I wasn’t even on a city round!!

so go back in the morning and ask to check the daily vehicle check sheets for that day, they are legal documents and they have to be kept. If it was you then hold your hands up, if it wasn’t then happy days mate, good luck let us know the outcome!

ah I checked the wrong date the actual offence happened on the 17th June, iv found the vehicle check sheet on my phone and yes I was driving
Fact remains tho that it happened in June and I wasn’t told till 9th August

[ricksWoodil]

omg I don’t think it was me driving if it was the 26th June
I took a photo from my wagon/cab that day and I wasn’t even on a city round!!

so go back in the morning and ask to check the daily vehicle check sheets for that day, they are legal documents and they have to be kept. If it was you then hold your hands up, if it wasn’t then happy days mate, good luck let us know the outcome!

ah I checked the wrong date the actual offence happened on the 17th June, iv found the vehicle check sheet on my phone and yes I was driving
Fact remains tho that it happened in June and I wasn’t told till 9th August

yes that's a bit of a nasty one from the operating company, least we've established it was you. Now you can contest as to when the fine was actually handed to you. What was the date on the fine issued ?
It may not stand with the local authority when you present it to them. But some one may be lenient,
If you word it such as,
Hello my name is ******
I have received a fine that has been issued by you from my company on **/**/** and I'm aware the incident occurred on the **/**/**, I'm aware I was wrong and take full responsibility and would be happy to pay the fine,
I ask that seeing I have received the fine so late from my company, that you'd be willing to revert back to the original fine payment of £**.**
I apologize for using the bus lane and can assure this is not a regular occurrence, I am not familiar with the road layout/setup and have since learnt my lesson,
Thank you for your consideration
******
That's how I would go about it. Or try. That's just off the back of my head.

[macPharos]

If it’s not got your name on it, it’s not yours, it’s theirs, 100% their problem that they’re now to late to give the drivers details. Ignore it, let them chase the council for payment, which will probably mean them paying themselves

[Morreen]

If it’s not got your name on it, it’s not yours, it’s theirs, 100% their problem that they’re now to late to give the drivers details. Ignore it, let them chase the council for payment, which will probably mean them paying themselves

I will try and get in touch with my union tomorrow hopefully they no what the crack is

[macPharos]

If it’s not got your name on it, it’s not yours, it’s theirs, 100% their problem that they’re now to late to give the drivers details. Ignore it, let them chase the council for payment, which will probably mean them paying themselves

I will try and get in touch with my union tomorrow hopefully they no what the crack is

100% not your fine without your name on it, I’d tell them that and that as they’ve left it to late to provide your details, there’s nothing they can do about it, it’s unlawful for them to deduct from pay.

[macPharos]

If it’s not got your name on it, it’s not yours, it’s theirs, 100% their problem that they’re now to late to give the drivers details. Ignore it, let them chase the council for payment, which will probably mean them paying themselves

I will try and get in touch with my union tomorrow hopefully they no what the crack is

bin lorry = most likely no Tacho n on domestic rules

[macPharos]

If it’s not got your name on it, it’s not yours, it’s theirs, 100% their problem that they’re now to late to give the drivers details. Ignore it, let them chase the council for payment, which will probably mean them paying themselves

I will try and get in touch with my union tomorrow hopefully they no what the crack is

he may well do, but my point is that the penalty does not have his name on it, it has theirs, it’s on them, he can’t be deducted or chased for it.

[macPharos]

If it’s not got your name on it, it’s not yours, it’s theirs, 100% their problem that they’re now to late to give the drivers details. Ignore it, let them chase the council for payment, which will probably mean them paying themselves

I will try and get in touch with my union tomorrow hopefully they no what the crack is

they had time to name the driver. Had they done so, he’d receive it in post with a discount if paid within 14 days.
Why should he pay the full amount, being advised after they’re too late to name him and will no longer get the discount.
Not a chance in hell I’d be paying and absolutely nothing they could do about it

[Morreen]

If it’s not got your name on it, it’s not yours, it’s theirs, 100% their problem that they’re now to late to give the drivers details. Ignore it, let them chase the council for payment, which will probably mean them paying themselves

I will try and get in touch with my union tomorrow hopefully they no what the crack is

they had time to name the driver. Had they done so, he’d receive it in post with a discount if paid within 14 days.
Why should he pay the full amount, being advised after they’re too late to name him and will no longer get the discount.
Not a chance in hell I’d be paying and absolutely nothing they could do about it

it’s my fault they took nearly 7 weeks to tell me so the fine has increased to £90?

[MATTHEMY]

6th of June for the offence, but not received till 7th August.
Were you actually driving the vehicle listed in the notice on the date of the offence?
If not, then your not liable,
As council vehicles don't all require a tacho, then only their run sheets to prove its you.

[Morreen]

6th of June for the offence, but not received till 7th August.
Were you actually driving the vehicle listed in the notice on the date of the offence?
If not, then your not liable,
As council vehicles don't all require a tacho, then only their run sheets to prove its you.

I say it was you driving it

[MATTHEMY]

6th of June for the offence, but not received till 7th August.
Were you actually driving the vehicle listed in the notice on the date of the offence?
If not, then your not liable,
As council vehicles don't all require a tacho, then only their run sheets to prove its you.

I say it was you driving it

no, I was driving the bus next to it, lol

[fleet2Spot]

If the PCN is issued by the council then it is the responsibility of the registered keeper to pay/contest the fine, not the driver.
If your employer pays the fine they may then deduct it from your pay if this is within your contract.
It is not your responsibility to deal with this as the driver.
For more information and to receive professional advice visit Council Parking PCNs - Free Advice. You will need to provide as much information as possible when asking for help, ideally with the original PCN, if you don't have that they are still able to assist but not with as much detail.

[neiReports]

What is the date on the nip

[stualle]

Bin it. And when or if they ask for it back You gave it them.

[AveAvion]

We normally get ours within couple days of offence with a we are taking it out your wages. But they do at least provide all paperwork with pics

[1461_jombit]

Deny it

[PhilZil]

If your name is not on an official letter from the council dept then ignore it. Let the company pay the fine, if they ask you for it back then give them reduced, only with evidence that it was actually you who committed the offence.

[buff9tion]

How it happened to me, company paid fine then stopped it out of my wages, they did show me using the bus lane as the council where I’d used it sent cctv evidence.

[natioBrand]

The company has to fill your details in and you'll get a fresh copy of paperwork to your home address.

[HaHasllerne]

Working for any agency is a bad thing to do, the working conditions are disgusting and they will do nothing to help you, such agencies should be outlawed, agencies first appeared in the UK in the 70’s and have just ripped off drivers ever since.
DONT EVER WORK FOR AN AGENCY.

[parkerycer]

So reading another part you posted in this thread the fine is £80, so can I assume it's a TFL fine?

[2014-glyzon]

The fine is payable by the vehicles OWNER, not necessarily the Driver..... they're trying to stuff you!

[Morreen]

I have checked the defect sheets I keep on my phone and it was me driving that day.
I’m not happy paying the increased fine I should of had the option of paying the early reduced fine.

[SankCo2658]

Do you have a tachograph master app.
Google maps.
Check number plate for vehicle you were driving that day. Check the history on Google maps if you have it turned on it records wether your on the app or not where you go see if you were on that road. No tachograph app do a print out for that date. Check if you were actually driving at the time of the offence. Normal procedure os. They 28 or 31 days to issue the fine to the registered keeper. This being the company most probably, they have 28 days to reply as to who was the driver in which they the people fining you have another 28 days to issue the driver with the fine. Which will either be addressed to you or addressed to the company with your name on it.