Hi all. I'm new to the forum. I'm looking for some advise if possible. I recently ended my employment with a company

[Chrich-Ben]

Hi all. I'm new to the forum. I'm looking for some advise if possible. I recently ended my employment with a company which was unfair dismissal and the now trying to cut my hours making up bullsh** saying I've been fiddling my hours I've asked them for a full printout from my tacho we're there claiming I fiddled my hours but there refusing to give it me. Are they legally required to give me a printout if I request 1 and if not who would I contact so that I can get a printout because I don't want to be getting screwed over and having money taken off me. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you

[plaudions]

Start an unfair dismissal claim, I'm currently doing one with one of my employers, I literally can't lose

[neplea]

Just find another driver to let you use his tacho to download a printout from your card

[Dell-Forb]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

[Dell-Forb]

I should say that if you have done 2 years or more you are protected against unfair dismissal.

[AndnKellWiz]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

I thought it was one year now

[IvyurceDDo]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

I thought it was one year now

One year and one day to be precise!

[Dell-Forb]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

I thought it was one year now

It was changed from 1 year to 2 years in 2012

[Dell-Forb]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

I thought it was one year now

One year and one day to be precise!

Qualifying period to claim unfair dismissal
You must have worked for your employer for a minimum period before you qualify for the right to claim unfair dismissal at a tribunal. If you’re classed as an employee and started your job:
on or after 6 April 2012 - the qualifying period is normally 2 years
before 6 April 2012 - the qualifying period is normally 1 year
Taken from the gov website

[IvyurceDDo]

I thought it was one year now

One year and one day to be precise!

Qualifying period to claim unfair dismissal
You must have worked for your employer for a minimum period before you qualify for the right to claim unfair dismissal at a tribunal. If you’re classed as an employee and started your job:
on or after 6 April 2012 - the qualifying period is normally 2 years
before 6 April 2012 - the qualifying period is normally 1 year
Taken from the gov website

Just checked... 6 April 2012 unless you live in Northern Ireland, or we fired for political affiliations!

[GraJAcimo]

One year and one day to be precise!

Qualifying period to claim unfair dismissal
You must have worked for your employer for a minimum period before you qualify for the right to claim unfair dismissal at a tribunal. If you’re classed as an employee and started your job:
on or after 6 April 2012 - the qualifying period is normally 2 years
before 6 April 2012 - the qualifying period is normally 1 year
Taken from the gov website

Just checked... 6 April 2012 unless you live in Northern Ireland, or we fired for political affiliations!

This is totally correct! And they do legal have to give you all documentation including print off tacho! You would need to give them 7 days notice for request of evidence or documentation!

[MILLVander]

I should say that if you have done 2 years or more you are protected against unfair dismissal.

no 2 years Tories changed it in 2010 hopefully with all the change the Labour government will rescind it back to 1 year.

[Dell-Forb]

I should say that if you have done 2 years or more you are protected against unfair dismissal.

no 2 years Tories changed it in 2010 hopefully with all the change the Labour government will rescind it back to 1 year.

Read my comments. I clearly said it was 2 years.

[Kixrk]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

Can't believe that anybody that has worked deserves paying for hours worked

[Gaiano.Gary]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

you do have rights even with less than 2 years... From ACAS website...Dismissal before someone has worked 2 years
If someone is dismissed before they have worked for their employer for 2 years, they will need to check what rights are available to them. This is sometimes known as 'short service dismissal'.
..
Depending on the reason for the dismissal, one of the following might apply:
automatically unfair dismissal
wrongful dismissal
You could also take them to the small claims court to get what you are owed, using your printouts as evidence, they probably owe you holiday pay as well.

[Dell-Forb]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

you do have rights even with less than 2 years... From ACAS website...Dismissal before someone has worked 2 years
If someone is dismissed before they have worked for their employer for 2 years, they will need to check what rights are available to them. This is sometimes known as 'short service dismissal'.
..
Depending on the reason for the dismissal, one of the following might apply:
automatically unfair dismissal
wrongful dismissal
You could also take them to the small claims court to get what you are owed, using your printouts as evidence, they probably owe you holiday pay as well.

So exactly what I said. No access to tribunal if needed. You can fight them but it'll cost you. You really have no rights until 2 years.

[Gaiano.Gary]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

you do have rights even with less than 2 years... From ACAS website...Dismissal before someone has worked 2 years
If someone is dismissed before they have worked for their employer for 2 years, they will need to check what rights are available to them. This is sometimes known as 'short service dismissal'.
..
Depending on the reason for the dismissal, one of the following might apply:
automatically unfair dismissal
wrongful dismissal
You could also take them to the small claims court to get what you are owed, using your printouts as evidence, they probably owe you holiday pay as well.

So exactly what I said. No access to tribunal if needed. You can fight them but it'll cost you. You really have no rights until 2 years.

not exactly what you said at all, you said you have no workplace rights until 2 years, when ACAS say otherwise

[brooksh]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

you do have rights even with less than 2 years... From ACAS website...Dismissal before someone has worked 2 years
If someone is dismissed before they have worked for their employer for 2 years, they will need to check what rights are available to them. This is sometimes known as 'short service dismissal'.
..
Depending on the reason for the dismissal, one of the following might apply:
automatically unfair dismissal
wrongful dismissal
You could also take them to the small claims court to get what you are owed, using your printouts as evidence, they probably owe you holiday pay as well.

So exactly what I said. No access to tribunal if needed. You can fight them but it'll cost you. You really have no rights until 2 years.

You said it'll cost him to fight them and he will probably lose, in reality it's a £35 small claims court fee (for claims up to £300) and he'd probably win if he's in the right as they won't bother fighting it. You said he had no rights and that's untrue.

[vladmind251]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

he may not be able to fight unfair dismissal but he can fight unpaid salary through ACAS.

[DrabbPREP]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

there are some circumstances where it doesn’t have to be 2 years…such as if his dismissal was down to discrimination, as a breach of contract, for raising H&S concerns or as a result of disability etc…there’s a few more such as pregnancy but I think he’s ok with that one

[Dell-Forb]

English employment law gives you absolutely no workplace rights and no access to tribunal if you haven't completed 2 years service..
Basically it'll cost you to fight them, and you'll probably lose.

there are some circumstances where it doesn’t have to be 2 years…such as if his dismissal was down to discrimination, as a breach of contract, for raising H&S concerns or as a result of disability etc…there’s a few more such as pregnancy but I think he’s ok with that one

This is very true, although without the tribunal it can be costly, and most companies will have lots of evidence to support their claims of denial.

[Patterro]

Call acas and sit back.

[plaudions]

Call acas and sit back.

literally

[wilppahan]

You can print out from any truck

[jasony_xinn]

Put your card in any tacho request a printout and choose date. Along as still on card will print it for you. I think they keep 28 days worth of details if I'm correct.

[jamkinsBOZ]

Put your card in any tacho request a printout and choose date. Along as still on card will print it for you. I think they keep 28 days worth of details if I'm correct.

all data stored mine goes back 2 years plus

[jasony_xinn]

Put your card in any tacho request a printout and choose date. Along as still on card will print it for you. I think they keep 28 days worth of details if I'm correct.

all data stored mine goes back 2 years plus

fair play bud wasn't sure of time limits.

[neplea]

Put your card in any tacho request a printout and choose date. Along as still on card will print it for you. I think they keep 28 days worth of details if I'm correct.

all data stored mine goes back 2 years plus

fair play bud wasn't sure of time limits.

there are no time limits on the card
They are limited by the number of mode changes so if you are on multidrop local work your card won't hold as many days as a tramper on long haul

[Webcorr]

Some data will still be on your card.

[Anpper]

Print out driver 1 activities and it will give you a 7 day print out. Do that as many times as you can and you'll have all the data on your card.
You need to select the date each time and it will print 7 days back from that date

[old4dernut]

Go and see an employment solicitor they'll advise you best, I won my unfair dismissal case when I was sacked, I asked for journey sheets for specific dates over a period of time and they had all gone missing, once a solicitor gets involved they'll soon shit themselves

[KingDeck]

Google timeline may help you if you have it switched on.

[sj6infore]

Where are you based? I Have my own easy tac download software. Would be happy for you to plug in and print what ever you want.

[Muff_Jollis]

You can do a printout on any day you require off your card, up to 28 days

[davement51]

You can do a printout on any day you require off your card, up to 28 days

can go back more than 28 days for a printout.

[aleerexus]

You can do a printout on any day you require off your card, up to 28 days

can go back more than 28 days for a printout.

depending on how many different activities the driver has done

[davement51]

You can do a printout on any day you require off your card, up to 28 days

can go back more than 28 days for a printout.

depending on how many different activities the driver has done

I know but some drivers think that a tacho card only holds 28 days information

[deckfind]

You can download your card on any downloader but you probably haven't worked long enough to take them to court

[JKBenzoyed]

You can download your card on any downloader but you probably haven't worked long enough to take them to court

can't for unfair dismissal. Can for owed wages

[deckfind]

You can download your card on any downloader but you probably haven't worked long enough to take them to court

can't for unfair dismissal. Can for owed wages

unfair dismissal
But probably cost more to get wages back than what it's worth especially if they paid for any training usually a clause

[410_andescars]

Order tachomaster and get a download box and do it yourself, when u contact tachomaster tell them what date u want the download to start from, the last time I used them it was a £1 a week

[poiny1146]

Order tachomaster and get a download box and do it yourself, when u contact tachomaster tell them what date u want the download to start from, the last time I used them it was a £1 a week

if he signs up, he gets a free months trial so saves on that part too

[BeaCrayon]

If you've started with a new company ask the coordinance person if they can do a print out for how ever many days or weeks you need

[jamestr8]

you can print out whatever is on your card

[redb6rooks]

I keep a diary , start finish times and distances along with working time and places visited and of course printout with reasons for infringements …. There’s no arguing with it , helps if you get pulled with dvsa too
“Would you like to see my diary”
“Errr no thanks !!”
Usually they’ll scan it but know your running legit

[MILLVander]

I keep a diary , start finish times and distances along with working time and places visited and of course printout with reasons for infringements …. There’s no arguing with it , helps if you get pulled with dvsa too
“Would you like to see my diary”
“Errr no thanks !!”
Usually they’ll scan it but know your running legit

DVSA don't want to see your diary because it doesn't mean anything to them, everything has to be recorded on your card nowadays.

[gefizz]

I keep a diary , start finish times and distances along with working time and places visited and of course printout with reasons for infringements …. There’s no arguing with it , helps if you get pulled with dvsa too
“Would you like to see my diary”
“Errr no thanks !!”
Usually they’ll scan it but know your running legit

DVSA don't want to see your diary because it doesn't mean anything to them, everything has to be recorded on your card nowadays.

correct, but if you whip out a diary showing everything you've done for the past year, they are more likely to give you a break

[steelo-khad]

Is this one of the large Parcel delivery companies by any chance?

[Chrich-Ben]

Is this one of the large Parcel delivery companies by any chance?

it's a company called efs global based in Burnley

[AlanKeSmith]

Is this one of the large Parcel delivery companies by any chance?

it's a company called efs global based in Burnley

I've worked for them years ago they're not very professional.
I was told to take breaks when being tipped or loaded.
Soon found another job

[Chrich-Ben]

Is this one of the large Parcel delivery companies by any chance?

it's a company called efs global based in Burnley

I've worked for them years ago they're not very professional.
I was told to take breaks when being tipped or loaded.
Soon found another job

yea what they still do and try to make you drive overloaded lol mark seems to think he's untouchable when it comes to the law was you there when Andrea was there in the office lol

[AlanKeSmith]

it's a company called efs global based in Burnley

I've worked for them years ago they're not very professional.
I was told to take breaks when being tipped or loaded.
Soon found another job

yea what they still do and try to make you drive overloaded lol mark seems to think he's untouchable when it comes to the law was you there when Andrea was there in the office lol

oh yes, I remember her well, and you're right about Mark, he's as bent as they come.
No regard for the welfare of the driver whatsoever.

[Chrich-Ben]

I've worked for them years ago they're not very professional.
I was told to take breaks when being tipped or loaded.
Soon found another job

yea what they still do and try to make you drive overloaded lol mark seems to think he's untouchable when it comes to the law was you there when Andrea was there in the office lol

oh yes, I remember her well, and you're right about Mark, he's as bent as they come.
No regard for the welfare of the driver whatsoever.

she was 1 horrible woman lol years ago I was down bogna Regus and my missis went into labour so I told her I was setting off back and she tried making me down a collection and delivery on my way back and I refused and she sacked me mark just thinks of the £notes and all his drivers are just numbers

[RRobert33]

Are they trying to pay you less than what you’re owed?

[Chrich-Ben]

Are they trying to pay you less than what you’re owed?

yea. There trying to pay me 18 less

[RRobert33]

Are they trying to pay you less than what you’re owed?

yea. There trying to pay me 18 less

18hrs less? Na man call Acas they’ll help you sort that out. Get printouts to prove your hours like the others commented

[Chrich-Ben]

Are they trying to pay you less than what you’re owed?

yea. There trying to pay me 18 less

18hrs less? Na man call Acas they’ll help you sort that out. Get printouts to prove your hours like the others commented

all I want is to be paid for the hours I worked, I'm not asked about the unfair dismissal but there taking the piss taking money off me when I've grafted for it

[doheelity]

yea. There trying to pay me 18 less

18hrs less? Na man call Acas they’ll help you sort that out. Get printouts to prove your hours like the others commented

all I want is to be paid for the hours I worked, I'm not asked about the unfair dismissal but there taking the piss taking money off me when I've grafted for it

ACAS all day....I had a company a few years back not paying me holiday pay I was owed..spoke to the boss spoke to payroll nobody could help me in hindsight because the boss told them so gave up..... about 4 months later was out for dinner with my girlfriends mates..one worked In HR ...said call ACAS...so I did...I was told it was illegal to with hold payments and if they don't pay it can be heard at a tribunal..they contacted my old company and 2 day's later the money was in my account .. . companies will try it till they think they'll get in trouble.

[Lingett2918]

You can check your hours on the rha website mate all tacho information is on there . You'll have to get a https://www.gov.uk/ pass code first though . Speak to acas they'll be able to help but I believe if you put your request in writing to them they have to honour it .

[Amiel_MC]

Put in one of these. They have to comply. https://www.gov.uk/data-protection/find ... -about-you

[JadeEver]

Speak with acas

[Chrich-Ben]

Speak with acas

that's Monday job lol

[MeltonMells]

Spot on

[LakQuick]

Literally ask any driver to let you put yer card in his truck and print them out that way.

[miaAnnon]

Speak with acas 100%. If they’re accusing you of something they need to show proof to support the accusation. If you haven’t done anything wrong then I wouldn’t stress about it. Just let them handle it. Good luck

[DommThink]

Might be able to get some advise in this group UK Employment Law & HR Advice

[Wayneph]

Put ya card in print your own sh*t out ffs .. hi Facebook I think my boss is wrong lol

[McKennzio]

Put ya card in print your own sh*t out ffs .. hi Facebook I think my boss is wrong lol

watch him find out heas done less hours now

[sid8ollux]

get it yourself, you can get a card reader off ebay and the kit to self download!

[stealth.BR]

U can do a print out from any tacho, as it’s all on your card

[MickLoBush]

ACAS is the route via industrial tribunal for illegal deduction of wages which is a criminal offence.

[esfano.hay]

Download an App called driver card reader pro for7£ and buy a card reader from ebay or amazon then you can have access of your info when ever you want.

[Fiony2543]

https://amzn.eu/d/aUqGevI

[ToFortune]

I once got sacked for laughing, mind you I was driving a Hurst.

[KEVDBRO]

Digifob 3, about 60 quid, i've got 1, about a years worth of data on your card, use TachoTorch to read the DDD file