Every time I do the tacho cpc I get into an argument with the instructor! This time it was you MUST remove your card

[Nigeloomi]

I always left mine in. Unless I was having a weekly break and would be away from the truck.
Checked a few times by relevant authorities, never did anyone mention it.

I have done it this way for years, pulled twice in the past 3yrs and nothing ever said.

[DomiMy]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

[JacWaff8]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

tbh you do need to be inputting end time and country and start time and country...

[HughPod]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

tbh you do need to be inputting end time and country and start time and country...

only if the tacho requests it

[Peteines]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

you need to manually enter end and start country when leaving your card in all week.
There is £50 fpn from dvsa or the police for failing to do it if stopped.
But to be fair I've never heard of anyone getting one, but it's there in the enforcement policy.
This is a screen shot from GV262.

[Ankhand]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

you need to manually enter end and start country when leaving your card in all week.
There is £50 fpn from dvsa or the police for failing to do it if stopped.
But to be fair I've never heard of anyone getting one, but it's there in the enforcement policy.
This is a screen shot from GV262.

I’ve never done that and got stopped last week and they never said a word

[greeLexjet]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

you need to manually enter end and start country when leaving your card in all week.
There is £50 fpn from dvsa or the police for failing to do it if stopped.
But to be fair I've never heard of anyone getting one, but it's there in the enforcement policy.
This is a screen shot from GV262.

the new tacho’s change to what country your in

[Peteines]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

you need to manually enter end and start country when leaving your card in all week.
There is £50 fpn from dvsa or the police for failing to do it if stopped.
But to be fair I've never heard of anyone getting one, but it's there in the enforcement policy.
This is a screen shot from GV262.

the new tacho’s change to what country your in

but they still don't automatically enter what country you start or finish in, that has to be done manually if the card is left in.

[Peteines]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

you need to manually enter end and start country when leaving your card in all week.
There is £50 fpn from dvsa or the police for failing to do it if stopped.
But to be fair I've never heard of anyone getting one, but it's there in the enforcement policy.
This is a screen shot from GV262.

I’ve never done that and got stopped last week and they never said a word

like I said I've never heard of anyone getting fined for it, but the fine is available for an enforcement officer to issue if they wanted to.

[greeLexjet]

you need to manually enter end and start country when leaving your card in all week.
There is £50 fpn from dvsa or the police for failing to do it if stopped.
But to be fair I've never heard of anyone getting one, but it's there in the enforcement policy.
This is a screen shot from GV262.

the new tacho’s change to what country your in

but they still don't automatically enter what country you start or finish in, that has to be done manually if the card is left in.

lucky I don’t leave my card in always take it out never had an issue

[garvelo]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

you need to manually enter end and start country when leaving your card in all week.
There is £50 fpn from dvsa or the police for failing to do it if stopped.
But to be fair I've never heard of anyone getting one, but it's there in the enforcement policy.
This is a screen shot from GV262.

so your saying the new ones don’t register the country you start in and finnish ?? as mine does hence why i don’t bother with a manual entry

[Fiellety]

you need to manually enter end and start country when leaving your card in all week.
There is £50 fpn from dvsa or the police for failing to do it if stopped.
But to be fair I've never heard of anyone getting one, but it's there in the enforcement policy.
This is a screen shot from GV262.

I’ve never done that and got stopped last week and they never said a word

like I said I've never heard of anyone getting fined for it, but the fine is available for an enforcement officer to issue if they wanted to.

how would you record this without popping the card and does tome of entry count as end of shift?

[Peteines]

I’ve never done that and got stopped last week and they never said a word

like I said I've never heard of anyone getting fined for it, but the fine is available for an enforcement officer to issue if they wanted to.

how would you record this without popping the card and does tome of entry count as end of shift?

you just go into the menu at select end or start there.

[percyberl]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

that's won't I do always have always will been hgv1 for nearly 40 age 73 never haved a ploblem

[cartrax81]

All I do and have done for 3 years, park up put it on break and that's it

same as

[benMoff5]

So your the one who ends up making a long day longer . While we sit in silence to get out fast as we can your adding time

[Nigeloomi]

So your the one who ends up making a long day longer . While we sit in silence to get out fast as we can your adding time

It was an online course, there is no knocking of early anymore

[stoMedium]

Company policy is we remove every night. Which I don't mind gets me in the habit so as I don't forget on a friday.

[plankunTR]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

[philArticles]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

you may want to re read what you have said bud

[plankunTR]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

you may want to re read what you have said bud

bloody big thick thumbs and auto correct

[philArticles]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

you may want to re read what you have said bud

bloody big thick thumbs and auto correct

I did the same thing to a whole company once, when I emailed the Night shift teams lol

[ingr0pone]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

I don't record my shits on tacho at all. Same with pisses.

[plankunTR]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

I don't record my shits on tacho at all. Same with pisses.

bloody big thick thumbs and auto correct

[davement51]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

do you do print outs on a bog roll after your sh*t...

[plankunTR]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

do you do print outs on a bog roll after your sh*t...

bloody big thick thumbs and auto correct

[Turterio2793]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

if you sleeping in the truck for weeks..I've always left it in. Only taken it out when I've parked it up and gone home..keep it simple

[plankunTR]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

if you sleeping in the truck for weeks..I've always left it in. Only taken it out when I've parked it up and gone home..keep it simple

each to their own pal, as I said, there is no rule or law on the statute books that’s says you have to do either.

[Turterio2793]

There is no rule they says you should or shouldn’t remove your card at the end of a shift, weather you are tramping or not, only that you MUST do a manual entry when you return your card into a tacho.

if you sleeping in the truck for weeks..I've always left it in. Only taken it out when I've parked it up and gone home..keep it simple

each to their own pal, as I said, there is no rule or law on the statute books that’s says you have to do either.

the Italian and French cops like you to leave it in to show your rest in my experience

[plankunTR]

if you sleeping in the truck for weeks..I've always left it in. Only taken it out when I've parked it up and gone home..keep it simple

each to their own pal, as I said, there is no rule or law on the statute books that’s says you have to do either.

the Italian and French cops like you to leave it in to show your rest in my experience

I’ve not had a problem yet with them, and I eject it at the end of every shift. If you leave it in, then they can do you for having a 45 in the cab, if it’s out there is no evidence, and then it is down to them to prove you did.

[Turterio2793]

each to their own pal, as I said, there is no rule or law on the statute books that’s says you have to do either.

the Italian and French cops like you to leave it in to show your rest in my experience

I’ve not had a problem yet with them, and I eject it at the end of every shift. If you leave it in, then they can do you for having a 45 in the cab, if it’s out there is no evidence, and then it is down to them to prove you did.

good answer

[whittGriffon]

Tell your instructor I said he’s a moron.

[leineo]

Well taking it out and doing a manual entry daily would show exactly what you are supposed to show and match up to your clock card/paid hours (which is what it is supposed to do)
There’s no place I’ve ever seen written stating you need to take it out or can leave it in within UK (different on continent I believe)
But what I do find is people seem to leave it in as they struggle with manual entries, like the shift drivers who just put their card in and leave it.

[JacWaff8]

Well taking it out and doing a manual entry daily would show exactly what you are supposed to show and match up to your clock card/paid hours (which is what it is supposed to do)
There’s no place I’ve ever seen written stating you need to take it out or can leave it in within UK (different on continent I believe)
But what I do find is people seem to leave it in as they struggle with manual entries, like the shift drivers who just put their card in and leave it.

but you can manual entry end of day and start of day whilst cards in....

[leineo]

Well taking it out and doing a manual entry daily would show exactly what you are supposed to show and match up to your clock card/paid hours (which is what it is supposed to do)
There’s no place I’ve ever seen written stating you need to take it out or can leave it in within UK (different on continent I believe)
But what I do find is people seem to leave it in as they struggle with manual entries, like the shift drivers who just put their card in and leave it.

but you can manual entry end of day and start of day whilst cards in....

how’d you figure?
As far as I’m aware (with our Stonebridge tachos) manual entry only is option when cards inserted.

[JacWaff8]

Well taking it out and doing a manual entry daily would show exactly what you are supposed to show and match up to your clock card/paid hours (which is what it is supposed to do)
There’s no place I’ve ever seen written stating you need to take it out or can leave it in within UK (different on continent I believe)
But what I do find is people seem to leave it in as they struggle with manual entries, like the shift drivers who just put their card in and leave it.

but you can manual entry end of day and start of day whilst cards in....

how’d you figure?
As far as I’m aware (with our Stonebridge tachos) manual entry only is option when cards inserted.

menu > entry > driver 1 entry > end or start

[JacWaff8]

Well taking it out and doing a manual entry daily would show exactly what you are supposed to show and match up to your clock card/paid hours (which is what it is supposed to do)
There’s no place I’ve ever seen written stating you need to take it out or can leave it in within UK (different on continent I believe)
But what I do find is people seem to leave it in as they struggle with manual entries, like the shift drivers who just put their card in and leave it.

but you can manual entry end of day and start of day whilst cards in....

how’d you figure?
As far as I’m aware (with our Stonebridge tachos) manual entry only is option when cards inserted.

off top of my head...

[leineo]

but you can manual entry end of day and start of day whilst cards in....

how’d you figure?
As far as I’m aware (with our Stonebridge tachos) manual entry only is option when cards inserted.

off top of my head...

will look into that
On Stonebridge tachos?
Fact is enough drivers around falsifying hours, plenty of fines handed out to companies and drivers over it too.
Obviously as stated on gov sites your tacho is meant to be a reflection of your work
Easiest way is manual entry
And for any that struggle or can’t do them plenty of tutorials and even Cpc courses on them

[JacWaff8]

how’d you figure?
As far as I’m aware (with our Stonebridge tachos) manual entry only is option when cards inserted.

off top of my head...

will look into that
On Stonebridge tachos?
Fact is enough drivers around falsifying hours, plenty of fines handed out to companies and drivers over it too.
Obviously as stated on gov sites your tacho is meant to be a reflection of your work
Easiest way is manual entry
And for any that struggle or can’t do them plenty of tutorials and even Cpc courses on them

not sure on the brand... but Ive used many and can do it on all ..

[MaMasood]

how’d you figure?
As far as I’m aware (with our Stonebridge tachos) manual entry only is option when cards inserted.

off top of my head...

will look into that
On Stonebridge tachos?
Fact is enough drivers around falsifying hours, plenty of fines handed out to companies and drivers over it too.
Obviously as stated on gov sites your tacho is meant to be a reflection of your work
Easiest way is manual entry
And for any that struggle or can’t do them plenty of tutorials and even Cpc courses on them

I don’t see why manual entries are needed for trampers. Put it on break when you’re parked up then other work when you start walk around checks.

[JacWaff8]

off top of my head...

will look into that
On Stonebridge tachos?
Fact is enough drivers around falsifying hours, plenty of fines handed out to companies and drivers over it too.
Obviously as stated on gov sites your tacho is meant to be a reflection of your work
Easiest way is manual entry
And for any that struggle or can’t do them plenty of tutorials and even Cpc courses on them

I don’t see why manual entries are needed for trampers. Put it on break when you’re parked up then other work when you start walk around checks.

And yeah my works accounted for .... but I get paid 5 days but might actually only work 3 etc so my card is a reflection of my work .... but if I was to be paid off it heck I'd be skint.

[leineo]

off top of my head...

will look into that
On Stonebridge tachos?
Fact is enough drivers around falsifying hours, plenty of fines handed out to companies and drivers over it too.
Obviously as stated on gov sites your tacho is meant to be a reflection of your work
Easiest way is manual entry
And for any that struggle or can’t do them plenty of tutorials and even Cpc courses on them

I don’t see why manual entries are needed for trampers. Put it on break when you’re parked up then other work when you start walk around checks.

it’s just the switching over bang on the minute, gotta have your attention on it
Say you miss switching over at 6pm by 1 minute straight away do yourself a infringement
Just as easy to do a manual entry after inputting your card
But as I said there are a fair few who haven’t a clue how to

[Jrba]

off top of my head...

will look into that
On Stonebridge tachos?
Fact is enough drivers around falsifying hours, plenty of fines handed out to companies and drivers over it too.
Obviously as stated on gov sites your tacho is meant to be a reflection of your work
Easiest way is manual entry
And for any that struggle or can’t do them plenty of tutorials and even Cpc courses on them

I don’t see why manual entries are needed for trampers. Put it on break when you’re parked up then other work when you start walk around checks.

You need to enter the start/finish countries, even if you don't leave the same country.

[MaMasood]

will look into that
On Stonebridge tachos?
Fact is enough drivers around falsifying hours, plenty of fines handed out to companies and drivers over it too.
Obviously as stated on gov sites your tacho is meant to be a reflection of your work
Easiest way is manual entry
And for any that struggle or can’t do them plenty of tutorials and even Cpc courses on them

I don’t see why manual entries are needed for trampers. Put it on break when you’re parked up then other work when you start walk around checks.

You need to enter the start/finish countries, even if you don't leave the same country.

I’ve never heard this before. I always leave my card in all week. Switch to rest of an evening, other work when starting walk around checks, then manual entry on Monday morning for my weekly rest. I’ve never been told that I’m doing something wrong…

[Jrba]

I don’t see why manual entries are needed for trampers. Put it on break when you’re parked up then other work when you start walk around checks.

You need to enter the start/finish countries, even if you don't leave the same country.

I’ve never heard this before. I always leave my card in all week. Switch to rest of an evening, other work when starting walk around checks, then manual entry on Monday morning for my weekly rest. I’ve never been told that I’m doing something wrong…

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[MaMasood]

You need to enter the start/finish countries, even if you don't leave the same country.

I’ve never heard this before. I always leave my card in all week. Switch to rest of an evening, other work when starting walk around checks, then manual entry on Monday morning for my weekly rest. I’ve never been told that I’m doing something wrong…

.

thank you. No CPC trainer has mentioned this. Genuinely. I pay attention and I retain information well and I can say with confidence that I’ve not been told this.
Is this something new? I wonder why no TM has ever flagged this before? Surely if it’s an infringement the tacho software would pick it up?
Is this is GV262? If not, do you have a link to the full article/website please?

[Jrba]

I’ve never heard this before. I always leave my card in all week. Switch to rest of an evening, other work when starting walk around checks, then manual entry on Monday morning for my weekly rest. I’ve never been told that I’m doing something wrong…

.

thank you. No CPC trainer has mentioned this. Genuinely. I pay attention and I retain information well and I can say with confidence that I’ve not been told this.
Is this something new? I wonder why no TM has ever flagged this before? Surely if it’s an infringement the tacho software would pick it up?
Is this is GV262? If not, do you have a link to the full article/website please?

Was being enforced from August 2022, many British drivers learnt the hard way when running through Europe.
It's easy enough to do. On the VU just select "enter vehicle ", select "start country or End country " then select UK. Job done.

[MaMasood]

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thank you. No CPC trainer has mentioned this. Genuinely. I pay attention and I retain information well and I can say with confidence that I’ve not been told this.
Is this something new? I wonder why no TM has ever flagged this before? Surely if it’s an infringement the tacho software would pick it up?
Is this is GV262? If not, do you have a link to the full article/website please?

Was being enforced from August 2022, many British drivers learnt the hard way when running through Europe.
It's easy enough to do. On the VU just select "enter vehicle ", select "start country or End country " then select UK. Job done.

oh I know how to do it, I do it every time I cross a border in Europe. I’ve just never been told that it was necessary whilst tramping in the UK.

[JacWaff8]

how’d you figure?
As far as I’m aware (with our Stonebridge tachos) manual entry only is option when cards inserted.

off top of my head...

will look into that
On Stonebridge tachos?
Fact is enough drivers around falsifying hours, plenty of fines handed out to companies and drivers over it too.
Obviously as stated on gov sites your tacho is meant to be a reflection of your work
Easiest way is manual entry
And for any that struggle or can’t do them plenty of tutorials and even Cpc courses on them

and also .... I don't have a clock card so how would that work? I'm salaried. Some days I don't work some days I do 15.

[philArticles]

Just ask him to show you the legislation where it points this out, no need to say anything else.

[Pavittony]

I might be thick!!!! But if you put your card in Monday morning and tramp all week? Why the hell are you taking your card out?

[RussFerdy]

Dvsa prefer you leave it in as it's then recorded a full 24hr period each day

[SherrWood]

Dvsa prefer you leave it in as it's then recorded a full 24hr period each day

that was confirmed by a dvsa agent when I was pulled a couple of months ago

[SherrWood]

Dvsa prefer you leave it in as it's then recorded a full 24hr period each day

By the way I always leave my card in

[bobwiz]

Dvsa prefer you leave it in as it's then recorded a full 24hr period each day

that was confirmed by a dvsa agent when I was pulled a couple of months ago

I’ve just started to leave mine in the time just can’t be arsed with ejecting it and reinserting it any more
But if the truck is oldish and has very old/bad batteries and require jump started during a rest period whether weekly or nightly rest period
If and when you require a jump start with the card in it shows up on your card that your rest period has been interrupted
And of course if the card is when jump started it still shows on the tacho too

[Jrba]

Dvsa prefer you leave it in as it's then recorded a full 24hr period each day

DVSA don't care either way, as long as you have a full record of activities.

[mco+erabb]

Leave it in you know where it is then

[clayeRydon]

If your instructor was so sure you should have asked him to show you where its written ,?
Contact him and ask him .

[JiggyCute]

If your instructor was so sure you should have asked him to show you where its written ,?
Contact him and ask him .

that would keep him busy for a while!

[geoy2854]

Take it out at night , the. Shunter can shift it at night to tip for you ,

[eadieNeddy]

I leave mine in. Do start country/end country. I don’t sleep in my lorry.
I leave it in all weekend. I’ve just had a fortnight off on holiday. Card was left in the whole time.

[KarlRox]

I take mine out simply cause mine goes to other work when ignition is turned off and f8cked up a couple of times by not switching back

[Scottch]

Bet that was a fun course.

[mart5yuan]

It's cpc. Just listen... keep quite , leave and do it the way you been doing it forever.
I learnt the hard way, there is no debate, no change of mind, not worth with the frustration
Happy trucking buddy

[Nigeloomi]

It's cpc. Just listen... keep quite , leave and do it the way you been doing it forever.
I learnt the hard way, there is no debate, no change of mind, not worth with the frustration
Happy trucking buddy

I didn’t say a word after that. I had the same instructor the following week on H&S and fire marshal course, my mic was on mute the whole day

[hopper]

It's cpc. Just listen... keep quite , leave and do it the way you been doing it forever.
I learnt the hard way, there is no debate, no change of mind, not worth with the frustration
Happy trucking buddy

yeah, some of them really haven't a clue.

[Cartexto]

It's cpc. Just listen... keep quite , leave and do it the way you been doing it forever.
I learnt the hard way, there is no debate, no change of mind, not worth with the frustration
Happy trucking buddy

I was the same, just agree with what they say, then carry on as normal, no stress.

[geoy2854]

Wait !!!!!
Your meant to have a card?
Failing to keep records, lesser fine than running 2 or more cards lol

[KnKnightro]

They have not got a clue. DriverHire are the worst as well. The amount of times I have told them that they are wrong is unreal. Most of these idiots should not be allowed to man these courses

[JiggyCute]

They have not got a clue. DriverHire are the worst as well. The amount of times I have told them that they are wrong is unreal. Most of these idiots should not be allowed to man these courses

I would urge you to feedback to both the provider and the DVSA.
This is one of the prime reasons that drivers resent having to complete periodic training.

[KnKnightro]

They have not got a clue. DriverHire are the worst as well. The amount of times I have told them that they are wrong is unreal. Most of these idiots should not be allowed to man these courses

I would urge you to feedback to both the provider and the DVSA.
This is one of the prime reasons that drivers resent having to complete periodic training.

I did complain to driverhire but didn’t think about reporting them to dvla.

[JiggyCute]

They have not got a clue. DriverHire are the worst as well. The amount of times I have told them that they are wrong is unreal. Most of these idiots should not be allowed to man these courses

I would urge you to feedback to both the provider and the DVSA.
This is one of the prime reasons that drivers resent having to complete periodic training.

I did complain to driverhire but didn’t think about reporting them to dvla.

it's the DVSA that are responsible for driver CPCs.

[KnKnightro]

I would urge you to feedback to both the provider and the DVSA.
This is one of the prime reasons that drivers resent having to complete periodic training.

I did complain to driverhire but didn’t think about reporting them to dvla.

it's the DVSA that are responsible for driver CPCs.

yeah I wasn’t thinking lol. I did realise after I commented but too late by then.

[mcIdol]

They have not got a clue. DriverHire are the worst as well. The amount of times I have told them that they are wrong is unreal. Most of these idiots should not be allowed to man these courses

I would urge you to feedback to both the provider and the DVSA.
This is one of the prime reasons that drivers resent having to complete periodic training.

I did complain to driverhire but didn’t think about reporting them to dvla.

I agree that the standard of training with Driver Hire is well below standard. The trainer on mine was trying to insist that a ferry movement could not be used on a daily rest unless the ferry duration was at least 8 hours.

[KnKnightro]

I would urge you to feedback to both the provider and the DVSA.
This is one of the prime reasons that drivers resent having to complete periodic training.

I did complain to driverhire but didn’t think about reporting them to dvla.

I agree that the standard of training with Driver Hire is well below standard. The trainer on mine was trying to insist that a ferry movement could not be used on a daily rest unless the ferry duration was at least 8 hours.

yeah I had that one. Also had one of theirs that said hay, straw and empty pallets loaded on trailers weren’t safe so I asked him if he knew how to strap them loads down so they were safe. He said no . Same guy didn’t know that tyres have a use by date on them. I really don’t get how they are allowed to carry on