How many TM’s holding class one licences are considering going back driving? Some silly money out there for driving

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How many TM’s holding class one licences are considering going back driving? Some silly money out there for driving

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How many TM’s holding class one licences are considering going back driving?
Some silly money out there for driving right now and it looks to be going up more and more.
Stobart up to £47k is very strong money and no doubt a lot more than some tm’s are earning.
I personally don’t think money is the answer to the shortage but if companies keep throwing the money. 🤷‍♂️
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47k stobart? How out of £12 you're making that?
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puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 pm 47k stobart? How out of £12 you're making that?
I saw a advent of £10 last month for our bridge striking friends.
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DayForb wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 pm
puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 pm 47k stobart? How out of £12 you're making that?
I saw a advent of £10 last month for our bridge striking friends.
i used their top rate which is about 12 ... to get 47k you would have to put 75hrs every week ...
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puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:24 pm
DayForb wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 pm
puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 pm 47k stobart? How out of £12 you're making that?
I saw a advent of £10 last month for our bridge striking friends.
i used their top rate which is about 12 ... to get 47k you would have to put 75hrs every week ...
its advertised at that 🤷‍♂️
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puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:24 pm
DayForb wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 pm
puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 pm 47k stobart? How out of £12 you're making that?
I saw a advent of £10 last month for our bridge striking friends.
i used their top rate which is about 12 ... to get 47k you would have to put 75hrs every week ...
£15 meal allowance
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Jimmun8 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:25 pm
puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:24 pm
DayForb wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 pm

I saw a advent of £10 last month for our bridge striking friends.
i used their top rate which is about 12 ... to get 47k you would have to put 75hrs every week ...
£15 meal allowance
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Jimmun8 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:25 pm
puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:24 pm
DayForb wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 pm

I saw a advent of £10 last month for our bridge striking friends.
i used their top rate which is about 12 ... to get 47k you would have to put 75hrs every week ...
£15 meal allowance
you counting meal allowance towards your salary?
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ponyon wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:25 pm
Jimmun8 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:25 pm
puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:24 pm

i used their top rate which is about 12 ... to get 47k you would have to put 75hrs every week ...
£15 meal allowance
,,,
if it's from ... thats what you will earn upper one is calculated on max hours etc old trick
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puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:26 pm
Jimmun8 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:25 pm
puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:24 pm

i used their top rate which is about 12 ... to get 47k you would have to put 75hrs every week ...
£15 meal allowance
you counting meal allowance towards your salary?
of course you do. £15 a day is £75 a week
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Jimmun8 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:26 pm
puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:26 pm
Jimmun8 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:25 pm

£15 meal allowance
you counting meal allowance towards your salary?
of course you do. £15 a day is £75 a week
nah mate that's meal allowance not taxable, bonus, end even with that you would have to graft 70+ to get that money (inc night outs)... poor wage mate, i know FLTs who are on 12 per hour.
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puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:27 pm
Jimmun8 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:26 pm
puch+jver wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:26 pm

you counting meal allowance towards your salary?
of course you do. £15 a day is £75 a week
nah mate that's meal allowance not taxable, bonus, end even with that you would have to graft 70+ to get that money (inc night outs)... poor wage mate, i know FLTs who are on 12 per hour.
probably Under table jobs
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I’m seriously thinking about it, earn similar, or even better in some cases without the constant headache 24/7
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Money is definitely the answer as will attract more people to do it, the minute the money drops again it won't be worth it
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Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:29 pm Money is definitely the answer as will attract more people to do it, the minute the money drops again it won't be worth it
The money may attract a lot but a lot will soon jack with the hours as that's something that is highly unlikely to change very much, it's the nature of the game, always has been.
The conditions and respect is something that will take a long time to improve and drivers need to understand that respect works both ways and is earned.
The only thing that could improve quickly is the training.
The industry needs an apprenticeship scheme and it needs to be made mandatory that every operator has a recognised induction program in place.
The DCPC needs a revamp and personally I think it needs doubling to 70 hours or 15 hours per year and an exam every year.
The money needs sorting but this £20+p/hr as basic pay is not sustainable 👍
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richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:29 pm
Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:29 pm Money is definitely the answer as will attract more people to do it, the minute the money drops again it won't be worth it
The money may attract a lot but a lot will soon jack with the hours as that's something that is highly unlikely to change very much, it's the nature of the game, always has been.
The conditions and respect is something that will take a long time to improve and drivers need to understand that respect works both ways and is earned.
The only thing that could improve quickly is the training.
The industry needs an apprenticeship scheme and it needs to be made mandatory that every operator has a recognised induction program in place.
The DCPC needs a revamp and personally I think it needs doubling to 70 hours or 15 hours per year and an exam every year.
The money needs sorting but this £20+p/hr as basic pay is not sustainable 👍
the last thing the industry needs is apprenticeships as would flood the place with drivers driving the hourly rate down once more, again alot of drivers would just jack it
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Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:30 pm
richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:29 pm
Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:29 pm Money is definitely the answer as will attract more people to do it, the minute the money drops again it won't be worth it
The money may attract a lot but a lot will soon jack with the hours as that's something that is highly unlikely to change very much, it's the nature of the game, always has been.
The conditions and respect is something that will take a long time to improve and drivers need to understand that respect works both ways and is earned.
The only thing that could improve quickly is the training.
The industry needs an apprenticeship scheme and it needs to be made mandatory that every operator has a recognised induction program in place.
The DCPC needs a revamp and personally I think it needs doubling to 70 hours or 15 hours per year and an exam every year.
The money needs sorting but this £20+p/hr as basic pay is not sustainable 👍
the last thing the industry needs is apprenticeships as would flood the place with drivers driving the hourly rate down once more, again alot of drivers would just jack it
I disagree but the industry needs proper training!
A driver passes their test and jumps straight in a truck, who's shown them how to load/unload and secure that load?
If I said to most drivers, what is locking, blocking, direct lashing, top over lashing, spring lashing, loop lashing, round turn lashing, I bet a hell of a lot of them would think I've two heads
My Dad retired just before the DCPC came out, he'd worked in the industry for 40+ years and he said for years before DCPC was even mentioned, the industry need proper training as it's a farce and it's no wonder there's so many accidents.
He said any numpty can jump in a truck and drive it forwards, the art is in the manoeuvring and loading and that's why we need training and lots of it, he was spot on and still says this to me to this day.
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richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:30 pm
Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:30 pm
richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:29 pm

The money may attract a lot but a lot will soon jack with the hours as that's something that is highly unlikely to change very much, it's the nature of the game, always has been.
The conditions and respect is something that will take a long time to improve and drivers need to understand that respect works both ways and is earned.
The only thing that could improve quickly is the training.
The industry needs an apprenticeship scheme and it needs to be made mandatory that every operator has a recognised induction program in place.
The DCPC needs a revamp and personally I think it needs doubling to 70 hours or 15 hours per year and an exam every year.
The money needs sorting but this £20+p/hr as basic pay is not sustainable 👍
the last thing the industry needs is apprenticeships as would flood the place with drivers driving the hourly rate down once more, again alot of drivers would just jack it
I disagree but the industry needs proper training!
A driver passes their test and jumps straight in a truck, who's shown them how to load/unload and secure that load?
If I said to most drivers, what is locking, blocking, direct lashing, top over lashing, spring lashing, loop lashing, round turn lashing, I bet a hell of a lot of them would think I've two heads
My Dad retired just before the DCPC came out, he'd worked in the industry for 40+ years and he said for years before DCPC was even mentioned, the industry need proper training as it's a farce and it's no wonder there's so many accidents.
He said any numpty can jump in a truck and drive it forwards, the art is in the manoeuvring and loading and that's why we need training and lots of it, he was spot on and still says this to me to this day.
they need to do away with that DCPC nonsense it's all a money making scam, I agree with the training aspect, I was lucky when I passed my class one the place I first worked gave me 2 weeks manouvering training and took me to different location and done different reverses with me, but you cant be training one driver on multiple different disciplines, each driver should be trained to match the specific load there going to be transporting and that's up to the employer to provide specific training,
Apprenticeships would see alot of drivers already on the road now just jack it in
Why should they pay the best part of 3k for there licence just to have alot nowadays just rock through on an apprenticeship
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Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:31 pm
richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:30 pm
Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:30 pm

the last thing the industry needs is apprenticeships as would flood the place with drivers driving the hourly rate down once more, again alot of drivers would just jack it
I disagree but the industry needs proper training!
A driver passes their test and jumps straight in a truck, who's shown them how to load/unload and secure that load?
If I said to most drivers, what is locking, blocking, direct lashing, top over lashing, spring lashing, loop lashing, round turn lashing, I bet a hell of a lot of them would think I've two heads
My Dad retired just before the DCPC came out, he'd worked in the industry for 40+ years and he said for years before DCPC was even mentioned, the industry need proper training as it's a farce and it's no wonder there's so many accidents.
He said any numpty can jump in a truck and drive it forwards, the art is in the manoeuvring and loading and that's why we need training and lots of it, he was spot on and still says this to me to this day.
they need to do away with that DCPC nonsense it's all a money making scam, I agree with the training aspect, I was lucky when I passed my class one the place I first worked gave me 2 weeks manouvering training and took me to different location and done different reverses with me, but you cant be training one driver on multiple different disciplines, each driver should be trained to match the specific load there going to be transporting and that's up to the employer to provide specific training,
Apprenticeships would see alot of drivers already on the road now just jack it in
Why should they pay the best part of 3k for there licence just to have alot nowadays just rock through on an apprenticeship
Well, you're entitled to your opinion but I'm nearly 52 years old and have seen this industry since the 70's and I was involved in the engineering sector for a number of years where I completed an apprenticeship. I then ran my own successful business so I'm aware how difficult it is and especially dealing with staff so I've a wide range of knowledge and experience to be able to give a valuable opinion but when someone says to me, the DCPC is nonsense and needs to be scrapped, I have to switch off sorry👋
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richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 pm
Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:31 pm
richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:30 pm

I disagree but the industry needs proper training!
A driver passes their test and jumps straight in a truck, who's shown them how to load/unload and secure that load?
If I said to most drivers, what is locking, blocking, direct lashing, top over lashing, spring lashing, loop lashing, round turn lashing, I bet a hell of a lot of them would think I've two heads
My Dad retired just before the DCPC came out, he'd worked in the industry for 40+ years and he said for years before DCPC was even mentioned, the industry need proper training as it's a farce and it's no wonder there's so many accidents.
He said any numpty can jump in a truck and drive it forwards, the art is in the manoeuvring and loading and that's why we need training and lots of it, he was spot on and still says this to me to this day.
they need to do away with that DCPC nonsense it's all a money making scam, I agree with the training aspect, I was lucky when I passed my class one the place I first worked gave me 2 weeks manouvering training and took me to different location and done different reverses with me, but you cant be training one driver on multiple different disciplines, each driver should be trained to match the specific load there going to be transporting and that's up to the employer to provide specific training,
Apprenticeships would see alot of drivers already on the road now just jack it in
Why should they pay the best part of 3k for there licence just to have alot nowadays just rock through on an apprenticeship
Well, you're entitled to your opinion but I'm nearly 52 years old and have seen this industry since the 70's and I was involved in the engineering sector for a number of years where I completed an apprenticeship. I then ran my own successful business so I'm aware how difficult it is and especially dealing with staff so I've a wide range of knowledge and experience to be able to give a valuable opinion but when someone says to me, the DCPC is nonsense and needs to be scrapped, I have to switch off sorry👋
drivers were being under paid for years, some businesses paying as little as £10 per hour for a class one driver, drivers are being "slightly" over paid at the moment but it is no more than they deserve after years and years of being under paid
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Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 pm
richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 pm
Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:31 pm

they need to do away with that DCPC nonsense it's all a money making scam, I agree with the training aspect, I was lucky when I passed my class one the place I first worked gave me 2 weeks manouvering training and took me to different location and done different reverses with me, but you cant be training one driver on multiple different disciplines, each driver should be trained to match the specific load there going to be transporting and that's up to the employer to provide specific training,
Apprenticeships would see alot of drivers already on the road now just jack it in
Why should they pay the best part of 3k for there licence just to have alot nowadays just rock through on an apprenticeship
Well, you're entitled to your opinion but I'm nearly 52 years old and have seen this industry since the 70's and I was involved in the engineering sector for a number of years where I completed an apprenticeship. I then ran my own successful business so I'm aware how difficult it is and especially dealing with staff so I've a wide range of knowledge and experience to be able to give a valuable opinion but when someone says to me, the DCPC is nonsense and needs to be scrapped, I have to switch off sorry👋
drivers were being under paid for years, some businesses paying as little as £10 per hour for a class one driver, drivers are being "slightly" over paid at the moment but it is no more than they deserve after years and years of being under paid
Indeed it could but it's been badly orchestrad from the start and nothing out of the original really as we always have who put these into play with no bloody idea👍
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Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 pm
richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 pm
Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:31 pm

they need to do away with that DCPC nonsense it's all a money making scam, I agree with the training aspect, I was lucky when I passed my class one the place I first worked gave me 2 weeks manouvering training and took me to different location and done different reverses with me, but you cant be training one driver on multiple different disciplines, each driver should be trained to match the specific load there going to be transporting and that's up to the employer to provide specific training,
Apprenticeships would see alot of drivers already on the road now just jack it in
Why should they pay the best part of 3k for there licence just to have alot nowadays just rock through on an apprenticeship
Well, you're entitled to your opinion but I'm nearly 52 years old and have seen this industry since the 70's and I was involved in the engineering sector for a number of years where I completed an apprenticeship. I then ran my own successful business so I'm aware how difficult it is and especially dealing with staff so I've a wide range of knowledge and experience to be able to give a valuable opinion but when someone says to me, the DCPC is nonsense and needs to be scrapped, I have to switch off sorry👋
drivers were being under paid for years, some businesses paying as little as £10 per hour for a class one driver, drivers are being "slightly" over paid at the moment but it is no more than they deserve after years and years of being under paid
But the drivers had a choice, no one forced them to work for that amount!
I drove for many years, at times I was on £8 odd an hour and we are only talking 14/15 years ago and that's after running my own business where I was earning £50/£60k a year.
My average as a self-employed driver was £12/£15 and that was in 2016/2017, I was ok with that amount and I got the hours in but I had the work ethic about me.
To many now want the money but can't be a*sed to put the graft in and just think the world owes them a living while they sit on Facebook, you get what you want in this world if you work hard enough.
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richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:33 pm
Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 pm
richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 pm

Well, you're entitled to your opinion but I'm nearly 52 years old and have seen this industry since the 70's and I was involved in the engineering sector for a number of years where I completed an apprenticeship. I then ran my own successful business so I'm aware how difficult it is and especially dealing with staff so I've a wide range of knowledge and experience to be able to give a valuable opinion but when someone says to me, the DCPC is nonsense and needs to be scrapped, I have to switch off sorry👋
drivers were being under paid for years, some businesses paying as little as £10 per hour for a class one driver, drivers are being "slightly" over paid at the moment but it is no more than they deserve after years and years of being under paid
But the drivers had a choice, no one forced them to work for that amount!
I drove for many years, at times I was on £8 odd an hour and we are only talking 14/15 years ago and that's after running my own business where I was earning £50/£60k a year.
My average as a self-employed driver was £12/£15 and that was in 2016/2017, I was ok with that amount and I got the hours in but I had the work ethic about me.
To many now want the money but can't be a*sed to put the graft in and just think the world owes them a living while they sit on Facebook, you get what you want in this world if you work hard enough.
the minimum for a driver should be £16 per hour including holiday and pension, just like any other sector that requires you to work away from home for long periods of time,
Plus I think we're seeing now how undervalued drivers have been for year now that there is a shortage, HGV drivers are the back bone of the economy, almost EVERY ITEM on the planet has spent some part of its life on a truck, from your TV to your bog roll
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Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:34 pm
richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:33 pm
Ryanneo wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 pm

drivers were being under paid for years, some businesses paying as little as £10 per hour for a class one driver, drivers are being "slightly" over paid at the moment but it is no more than they deserve after years and years of being under paid
But the drivers had a choice, no one forced them to work for that amount!
I drove for many years, at times I was on £8 odd an hour and we are only talking 14/15 years ago and that's after running my own business where I was earning £50/£60k a year.
My average as a self-employed driver was £12/£15 and that was in 2016/2017, I was ok with that amount and I got the hours in but I had the work ethic about me.
To many now want the money but can't be a*sed to put the graft in and just think the world owes them a living while they sit on Facebook, you get what you want in this world if you work hard enough.
the minimum for a driver should be £16 per hour including holiday and pension, just like any other sector that requires you to work away from home for long periods of time,
Plus I think we're seeing now how undervalued drivers have been for year now that there is a shortage, HGV drivers are the back bone of the economy, almost EVERY ITEM on the planet has spent some part of its life on a truck, from your TV to your bog roll
I agree with you and that is a reasonable rate but these idiots that think they are worth £20+p/hr as a basic rate, really need to give they're heads a wobble
But without a serious amount of training, a lot won't be worth £16 p/hr 🤷
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You couldn't pay me enough to go back to it full time. I do an odd weekend shift and cannot wait to stop.
I'm sure plenty will but its the working hours and conditions that are the big barrier for new blood taking this up in the UK.
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They could offer me £80/£100k per annum and they would still get the same answer
I love my job as an ETM, just managed to lose my only client that was an headache and gain another client on the same day, who I've known since he first started out 24 years ago so happy days.
A lot of changes are needed in the industry but paying this big money will just not be sustainable for a lot of operators and this could just make matters worse.
If the odd weekend shift pops up at £30 p/hr, I maybe tempted but it's more to just keep my hand in as over the last 3 years, I'm done next to no driving.
But I may give it a miss until the school holidays are over🤣
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richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:35 pm They could offer me £80/£100k per annum and they would still get the same answer
I love my job as an ETM, just managed to lose my only client that was an headache and gain another client on the same day, who I've known since he first started out 24 years ago so happy days.
A lot of changes are needed in the industry but paying this big money will just not be sustainable for a lot of operators and this could just make matters worse.
If the odd weekend shift pops up at £30 p/hr, I maybe tempted but it's more to just keep my hand in as over the last 3 years, I'm done next to no driving.
But I may give it a miss until the school holidays are over🤣
I agree with your thoughts their Richielte, doing the occasional shift on silly money is not to be turned down. Just had a phone call off DHL Senior manager asking for support in peak. I was always told never close an open door so my reply was not a straight no but - when it reaches £350 a shift i will do a couple of days.
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calluce_xp wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:36 pm
richielte wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:35 pm They could offer me £80/£100k per annum and they would still get the same answer
I love my job as an ETM, just managed to lose my only client that was an headache and gain another client on the same day, who I've known since he first started out 24 years ago so happy days.
A lot of changes are needed in the industry but paying this big money will just not be sustainable for a lot of operators and this could just make matters worse.
If the odd weekend shift pops up at £30 p/hr, I maybe tempted but it's more to just keep my hand in as over the last 3 years, I'm done next to no driving.
But I may give it a miss until the school holidays are over🤣
I agree with your thoughts their Richielte, doing the occasional shift on silly money is not to be turned down. Just had a phone call off DHL Senior manager asking for support in peak. I was always told never close an open door so my reply was not a straight no but - when it reaches £350 a shift i will do a couple of days.
I've always been the same, too many folk cut off their noses in this game
I'll be keeping an eye on things and if these £300/£400 shifts start appearing on a weekend then I may have to dig out my work boots again🤣
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I doubt I will ever go back driving but the money is tempting.
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I would go driving if my medical wasn't stopping me. Some drivers are naming their own money at the minute
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Money isn’t everything quality of life family time far more important I have a class one but would not consider going back behind the wheel
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Another good company advertising strong money.
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I wish vacancy adds where honest.
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It’s all carrot dangling but I’ve done the 5 nights out and running maximum hours years ago and earned nowhere near these numbers.
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I am TM and owner driver and I am doing really fine and looks like it’s getting better 👍👍
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Held Class 1 for nearly 20 years, quite happy never to drive a wagon again. Wouldn’t advise anyone to consider driving as a career.
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I’ve got a class one but prefer being home every night and only doing 40 hours. I’ll drive occasionally to keep my hand in but that’s it for me.
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Re: How many TM’s holding class one licences are considering going back driving? Some silly money out there for driving

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they need to do away with that DCPC nonsense it's all a money making scam, I agree with the training aspect, I was lucky when I passed my class one the place I first worked gave me 2 weeks manouvering training and took me to different location and done different reverses with me, but you cant be training one driver on multiple different disciplines, each driver should be trained to match the specific load there going to be transporting and that's up to the employer to provide specific training,
Apprenticeships would see alot of drivers already on the road now just jack it in
Why should they pay the best part of 3k for there licence just to have alot nowadays just rock through on an apprenticeship
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Money making scam for who though?
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