Here's a question that popped into my head earlier. Do Scottish Hauliers run back north for poor load rates like we

[Kenrefrij]

Here's a question that popped into my head earlier.
Do Scottish Hauliers run back north for poor load rates like we have to run from Scotland back south?

[simory]

Guessing not. Although on a Friday I’m guessing the rates get knocked down due to supply vs demand.

[Cruiconiz]

Guessing not. Although on a Friday I’m guessing the rates get knocked down due to supply vs demand.

Rates up are good rates down f**king sh*te

[Kenrefrij]

I'd love to post a load just to see what the Scottish hauliers quote!

[simory]

I'd love to post a load just to see what the Scottish hauliers quote!

Where do you go to get your loads back from Scotland? I’ve tried BWD, Pollock and CRS, but I struggle to get much more than £1/mile

[Barcip]

I'd love to post a load just to see what the Scottish hauliers quote!

Where do you go to get your loads back from Scotland? I’ve tried BWD, Pollock and CRS, but I struggle to get much more than £1/mile

pretty sure if you run full time for bwd they give you the standard 1.4/mile rate back to Scotland

[Kenrefrij]

I'd love to post a load just to see what the Scottish hauliers quote!

Where do you go to get your loads back from Scotland? I’ve tried BWD, Pollock and CRS, but I struggle to get much more than £1/mile

I find with bwd if you use them as filling loads in England then you get more than the £1.40 per mile.

[Barcip]

I'd love to post a load just to see what the Scottish hauliers quote!

Where do you go to get your loads back from Scotland? I’ve tried BWD, Pollock and CRS, but I struggle to get much more than £1/mile

really? First bad review I've heard other than the low rate

[simory]

I'd love to post a load just to see what the Scottish hauliers quote!

Where do you go to get your loads back from Scotland? I’ve tried BWD, Pollock and CRS, but I struggle to get much more than £1/mile

really? First bad review I've heard other than the low rate

they run you hard and f**k you on waiting time. Also the £1.40 a mile is using their calculations not what your mileage actually is.
Also I didn’t like being lied to, and they lied to me a number of times on little things.
I lost a number of half days that I didn’t get waiting time for.

[simory]

I'd love to post a load just to see what the Scottish hauliers quote!

Where do you go to get your loads back from Scotland? I’ve tried BWD, Pollock and CRS, but I struggle to get much more than £1/mile

I find with bwd if you use them as filling loads in England then you get more than the £1.40 per mile.

I’ve stopped running for less than 1.8/M except out of Scotland. Not worth my time, I’d rather sit and wait.

[simory]

I'd love to post a load just to see what the Scottish hauliers quote!

Where do you go to get your loads back from Scotland? I’ve tried BWD, Pollock and CRS, but I struggle to get much more than £1/mile

I find with bwd if you use them as filling loads in England then you get more than the £1.40 per mile.

absolutely right. They might scrape a living but they make it harder for everyone, including themselves.
The closest I’d consider to running at that is having a day rate in the region of 450-500

[jon_pylon]

Where do you go to get your loads back from Scotland? I’ve tried BWD, Pollock and CRS, but I struggle to get much more than £1/mile

really? First bad review I've heard other than the low rate

they run you hard and f**k you on waiting time. Also the £1.40 a mile is using their calculations not what your mileage actually is.
Also I didn’t like being lied to, and they lied to me a number of times on little things.
I lost a number of half days that I didn’t get waiting time for.

Industry standard is £2.20pm. Since when?

[Cruiconiz]

I'd love to post a load just to see what the Scottish hauliers quote!

Where do you go to get your loads back from Scotland? I’ve tried BWD, Pollock and CRS, but I struggle to get much more than £1/mile

really? First bad review I've heard other than the low rate

there ok on the rates up but shit on the way down

[Cruiconiz]

I'd love to post a load just to see what the Scottish hauliers quote!

Where do you go to get your loads back from Scotland? I’ve tried BWD, Pollock and CRS, but I struggle to get much more than £1/mile

really? First bad review I've heard other than the low rate

Ferrymasters dfds Mammoet all pay between £1.30 to £1.50 a mile

[Zakinte]

We run down Monday and Wednesday and up Tuesday and Thursday and work our way home Friday.
Rates are good both ways for the work we do

[simory]

We run down Monday and Wednesday and up Tuesday and Thursday and work our way home Friday.
Rates are good both ways for the work we do

Would love some tips then bro.

[Zakinte]

We run down Monday and Wednesday and up Tuesday and Thursday and work our way home Friday.
Rates are good both ways for the work we do

Would love some tips then bro.

just gotta find the good jobs

[simory]

We run down Monday and Wednesday and up Tuesday and Thursday and work our way home Friday.
Rates are good both ways for the work we do

Would love some tips then bro.

just gotta find the good jobs

aye, didn’t expect you to actually help lol.
Getting fed up of carrying sh*t loads for shit money to get out of Scotland. All the big players just price me right out the market.
Pity cos I like running up north.

[Kenrefrij]

Would love some tips then bro.

just gotta find the good jobs

aye, didn’t expect you to actually help lol.
Getting fed up of carrying sh*t loads for shit money to get out of Scotland. All the big players just price me right out the market.
Pity cos I like running up north.

I'm in clydebank tomorrow...the best I've got at the moment is a Glasgow to Birmingham for less than I'd run a van down at

[simory]

just gotta find the good jobs

aye, didn’t expect you to actually help lol.
Getting fed up of carrying sh*t loads for shit money to get out of Scotland. All the big players just price me right out the market.
Pity cos I like running up north.

I'm in clydebank tomorrow...the best I've got at the moment is a Glasgow to Birmingham for less than I'd run a van down at

I got offered a Falkirk to Castleford for £250. I sat for a half day on my ass instead of wasting my diesel.

[Kenrefrij]

aye, didn’t expect you to actually help lol.
Getting fed up of carrying sh*t loads for shit money to get out of Scotland. All the big players just price me right out the market.
Pity cos I like running up north.

I'm in clydebank tomorrow...the best I've got at the moment is a Glasgow to Birmingham for less than I'd run a van down at

I got offered a Falkirk to Castleford for £250. I sat for a half day on my ass instead of wasting my diesel.

I done falkirk to Nuneaton for not much more....I needed to get back down to collect the load I have on my back now

[Stewardo]

I'm in clydebank tomorrow...the best I've got at the moment is a Glasgow to Birmingham for less than I'd run a van down at

I got offered a Falkirk to Castleford for £250. I sat for a half day on my ass instead of wasting my diesel.

I done falkirk to Nuneaton for not much more....I needed to get back down to collect the load I have on my back now

Easy option don’t work for Barron Wood !!

[Stephon]

I'm in clydebank tomorrow...the best I've got at the moment is a Glasgow to Birmingham for less than I'd run a van down at

I got offered a Falkirk to Castleford for £250. I sat for a half day on my ass instead of wasting my diesel.

I done falkirk to Nuneaton for not much more....I needed to get back down to collect the load I have on my back now

theres your answer you are the problem!!!

[Kenrefrij]

I got offered a Falkirk to Castleford for £250. I sat for a half day on my ass instead of wasting my diesel.

I done falkirk to Nuneaton for not much more....I needed to get back down to collect the load I have on my back now

theres your answer you are the problem!!!

lol

[Cruiconiz]

I got offered a Falkirk to Castleford for £250. I sat for a half day on my ass instead of wasting my diesel.

I done falkirk to Nuneaton for not much more....I needed to get back down to collect the load I have on my back now

theres your answer you are the problem!!!

I got offered 200 Glasgow to Spennymoor
Knocked it back

[Maddium]

Border traffic weren't bad with seed tatties.....

[GalGary]

Loads from Scotland are the same all round mate, we get shafted as much as you lot, remember we are all British hauliers, mmy mate goes down Monday, stays down all week and back Friday, I go down Sunday run up and down all week and he earns more with half the milage and diesel bill

[Kenrefrij]

Loads from Scotland are the same all round mate, we get shafted as much as you lot, remember we are all British hauliers, mmy mate goes down Monday, stays down all week and back Friday, I go down Sunday run up and down all week and he earns more with half the milage and diesel bill

That answers the original question! There must be some rich hauliers in Scotland not sharing the reddies!

[GalGary]

Loads from Scotland are the same all round mate, we get shafted as much as you lot, remember we are all British hauliers, mmy mate goes down Monday, stays down all week and back Friday, I go down Sunday run up and down all week and he earns more with half the milage and diesel bill

That answers the original question! There must be some rich hauliers in Scotland not sharing the reddies!

There is money in it somewhere, f**ked if I can find it and my mate is the same, only way to do it is having your own contract out Scotland, but at that you'll never keep it to many boys willing to run at cost from Scotland, the English do it to get back so that f**ks the Scots and the Scots do it to get south that f**ks the English, its a vicious circle

[Kenrefrij]

Loads from Scotland are the same all round mate, we get shafted as much as you lot, remember we are all British hauliers, mmy mate goes down Monday, stays down all week and back Friday, I go down Sunday run up and down all week and he earns more with half the milage and diesel bill

That answers the original question! There must be some rich hauliers in Scotland not sharing the reddies!

There is money in it somewhere, f**ked if I can find it and my mate is the same, only way to do it is having your own contract out Scotland, but at that you'll never keep it to many boys willing to run at cost from Scotland, the English do it to get back so that f**ks the Scots and the Scots do it to get south that f**ks the English, its a vicious circle

And the running costs are creeping up again!

[GalGary]

That answers the original question! There must be some rich hauliers in Scotland not sharing the reddies!

There is money in it somewhere, f**ked if I can find it and my mate is the same, only way to do it is having your own contract out Scotland, but at that you'll never keep it to many boys willing to run at cost from Scotland, the English do it to get back so that f**ks the Scots and the Scots do it to get south that f**ks the English, its a vicious circle

And the running costs are creeping up again!

My diesel is coming back down a little, I was up at 107 and 108 at one stage, even keyfuels creeped up to 110

[Kenrefrij]

There is money in it somewhere, f**ked if I can find it and my mate is the same, only way to do it is having your own contract out Scotland, but at that you'll never keep it to many boys willing to run at cost from Scotland, the English do it to get back so that f**ks the Scots and the Scots do it to get south that f**ks the English, its a vicious circle

And the running costs are creeping up again!

My diesel is coming back down a little, I was up at 107 and 108 at one stage, even keyfuels creeped up to 110

Mine are between 104 and 107 now.

[GalGary]

And the running costs are creeping up again!

My diesel is coming back down a little, I was up at 107 and 108 at one stage, even keyfuels creeped up to 110

Mine are between 104 and 107 now.

Wee need to stick together and refuse to move everything at cost but the greed in haulage won't allow it

[Kenrefrij]

My diesel is coming back down a little, I was up at 107 and 108 at one stage, even keyfuels creeped up to 110

Mine are between 104 and 107 now.

Wee need to stick together and refuse to move everything at cost but the greed in haulage won't allow it

The 1st thing is to scrap the word "backload" .....a load is a load

[GalGary]

Mine are between 104 and 107 now.

Wee need to stick together and refuse to move everything at cost but the greed in haulage won't allow it

The 1st thing is to scrap the word "backload" .....a load is a load

Yup agreed,

[simory]

Mine are between 104 and 107 now.

Wee need to stick together and refuse to move everything at cost but the greed in haulage won't allow it

The 1st thing is to scrap the word "backload" .....a load is a load

The only thing that works for me is to charge extra whenever I go to Scotland.

[Kenrefrij]

Wee need to stick together and refuse to move everything at cost but the greed in haulage won't allow it

The 1st thing is to scrap the word "backload" .....a load is a load

The only thing that works for me is to charge extra whenever I go to Scotland.

I get a good rate going up. Just the return loads letting the figures down

[GalGary]

Wee need to stick together and refuse to move everything at cost but the greed in haulage won't allow it

The 1st thing is to scrap the word "backload" .....a load is a load

The only thing that works for me is to charge extra whenever I go to Scotland.

Again short term fix, but doesn't fix the problem, we are not earning what we need to do the job we are moving cost to someone else just go make it work

[simory]

The 1st thing is to scrap the word "backload" .....a load is a load

The only thing that works for me is to charge extra whenever I go to Scotland.

Again short term fix, but doesn't fix the problem, we are not earning what we need to do the job we are moving cost to someone else just go make it work

passing the cost along is an effective business model.

[lee.guarantee]

The 1st thing is to scrap the word "backload" .....a load is a load

The only thing that works for me is to charge extra whenever I go to Scotland.

I get a good rate going up. Just the return loads letting the figures down

i scrapped that word a long time ago.

[Kenrefrij]

The only thing that works for me is to charge extra whenever I go to Scotland.

I get a good rate going up. Just the return loads letting the figures down

i scrapped that word a long time ago.

but haulage companies use it for everyone they sell

[Alex.com]

Put it this way, the loads rates back down are that bad that after we’ve done the daily Burton- Glasgow/Edinburgh. We run down to Darlington empty an run from darlo to Grantham for more than Stirling to notts which we do when their isn’t a darlo load available

[simory]

Put it this way, the loads rates back down are that bad that after we’ve done the daily Burton- Glasgow/Edinburgh. We run down to Darlington empty an run from darlo to Grantham for more than Stirling to notts which we do when their isn’t a darlo load available

Who you run for out of darlo?

[Kenrefrij]

Put it this way, the loads rates back down are that bad that after we’ve done the daily Burton- Glasgow/Edinburgh. We run down to Darlington empty an run from darlo to Grantham for more than Stirling to notts which we do when their isn’t a darlo load available

Who you run for out of darlo?

Sums it up really.

[Alex.com]

Put it this way, the loads rates back down are that bad that after we’ve done the daily Burton- Glasgow/Edinburgh. We run down to Darlington empty an run from darlo to Grantham for more than Stirling to notts which we do when their isn’t a darlo load available

Who you run for out of darlo?

Argos/dhl taking the scrap fridges an washing machines to a recycling place

[Cruiconiz]

Put it this way, the loads rates back down are that bad that after we’ve done the daily Burton- Glasgow/Edinburgh. We run down to Darlington empty an run from darlo to Grantham for more than Stirling to notts which we do when their isn’t a darlo load available

Who you run for out of darlo?

Argos/dhl taking the scrap fridges an washing machines to a recycling place

used to do that from cumbernauld

[walatime]

No mate, had this conversation with Currie European.... They'd take a load from Dumfries for South Yorkshire for £450, but wanted £500 for our load back up ex Scunthorpe to Port Glasgow. We're based in North Lincs. Best I get is £300 for backload ex Glasgow. I don't go often because loads are few and far between.... I won't do Barronwoods £200 pallet loads on principal.

[Kenrefrij]

No mate, had this conversation with Currie European.... They'd take a load from Dumfries for South Yorkshire for £450, but wanted £500 for our load back up ex Scunthorpe to Port Glasgow. We're based in North Lincs. Best I get is £300 for backload ex Glasgow. I don't go often because loads are few and far between.... I won't do Barronwoods £200 pallet loads on principal.

Curries quite often post loads from cummnock to wolves....£350

[simory]

No mate, had this conversation with Currie European.... They'd take a load from Dumfries for South Yorkshire for £450, but wanted £500 for our load back up ex Scunthorpe to Port Glasgow. We're based in North Lincs. Best I get is £300 for backload ex Glasgow. I don't go often because loads are few and far between.... I won't do Barronwoods £200 pallet loads on principal.

I’m guilty of not doing loads on principle.
If we all did the same then the rates would go up, but I suspect those companies employing Johnny Foreigner on 7.70 an hour will undercut us anyway.

[FerrisStart]

No mate, had this conversation with Currie European.... They'd take a load from Dumfries for South Yorkshire for £450, but wanted £500 for our load back up ex Scunthorpe to Port Glasgow. We're based in North Lincs. Best I get is £300 for backload ex Glasgow. I don't go often because loads are few and far between.... I won't do Barronwoods £200 pallet loads on principal.

Barronwood, never get near to them! I had a friend with them, after 3 years bankrupt
It take 3 years to him to find out he is losing
They send email everyday asking for dedicated subby

[Kenrefrij]

No mate, had this conversation with Currie European.... They'd take a load from Dumfries for South Yorkshire for £450, but wanted £500 for our load back up ex Scunthorpe to Port Glasgow. We're based in North Lincs. Best I get is £300 for backload ex Glasgow. I don't go often because loads are few and far between.... I won't do Barronwoods £200 pallet loads on principal.

I’m guilty of not doing loads on principle.
If we all did the same then the rates would go up, but I suspect those companies employing Johnny Foreigner on 7.70 an hour will undercut us anyway.

I wouldn't go dedicated for them. But use them as they'd use you!

[simory]

No mate, had this conversation with Currie European.... They'd take a load from Dumfries for South Yorkshire for £450, but wanted £500 for our load back up ex Scunthorpe to Port Glasgow. We're based in North Lincs. Best I get is £300 for backload ex Glasgow. I don't go often because loads are few and far between.... I won't do Barronwoods £200 pallet loads on principal.

I’m guilty of not doing loads on principle.
If we all did the same then the rates would go up, but I suspect those companies employing Johnny Foreigner on 7.70 an hour will undercut us anyway.

I wouldn't go dedicated for them. But use them as they'd use you!

I used to do the odd jobs and haggle with them. They give their best offer when you apologies but say the money’s not enough and try to hang up the phone.

[mattych315]

Backloads???? A loads a load now a days is it not regardless of what way your going???

[Kenrefrij]

Backloads???? A loads a load now a days is it not regardless of what way your going???

Obviously not if your the one selling it!

[Kenrefrij]

Backloads???? A loads a load now a days is it not regardless of what way your going???

Enough said!

[Kenrefrij]

Backloads???? A loads a load now a days is it not regardless of what way your going???

And who's going to have an artic available at this time of night and deliver to Dundee on Monday?

[Cruiconiz]

Backloads???? A loads a load now a days is it not regardless of what way your going???

And who's going to have an artic available at this time of night and deliver to Dundee on Monday?

what was the rate

[Davidsxp]

I got a rate today for 3.7 mile in Liverpool 1portacabin 12 feet by 9 feet £250 robbing bastards

[FerrisStart]

Will be great if everyone stop simultanley collecting backloads!
No matter which way you are going, you must be paid as proper load, not one way!
I can see some people are bidding for £120 when bidding start from £400, thats shocking what some peoples are doing.
Better stop and work for other company rather then setup self employed or Ltd company.

[Allyonco]

I price both ways to run back empty, if they don't want to pay it get someone else to do it, Ok hiab work is slightly different but I'd rather run home empty to do decent paying work than fuck about getting a quid a mile.

[kevin_evan]

half the loads on here will be clearing houses anyway

[robenso]

Scottish rates are sh*t only the big boys to thank for that. We only have a few small contracts we use to get down south part from that I run then back empty

[robenso]

must be

[robenso]

Works for me al stick to what we are doing.

[Colin+Haro]

Question, whats mpg for a loaded artic, roughly?

[Colin+Haro]

Trying to work out how the f**k you can run an artic @ £1:40/mile ? Surely fuel would be half that?

[Duaneri]

Trying to work out how the f**k you can run an artic @ £1:40/mile ? Surely fuel would be half that?

9-10 loaded 44t always on a merc bigspace 450 running flat out 4.7m curtain sided trailer close coupled wind kit optimised same tyres all round keep on top of tyre pressures alloys super singles all round apart from drives and cruise control owner driver so fuel and tyres is key to profit

[joesapart]

Trying to work out how the f**k you can run an artic @ £1:40/mile ? Surely fuel would be half that?

About 7-7.5mpg at 44t on a good day, be fucked if I ran at £1.40 a mile, it’s all job rate or day rate if there is likely to be a lot of waiting around

[Duaneri]

Trying to work out how the f**k you can run an artic @ £1:40/mile ? Surely fuel would be half that?

About 7-7.5mpg at 44t on a good day, be f**ked if I ran at £1.40 a mile, it’s all job rate or day rate if there is likely to be a lot of waiting around

I’m a d**k for getting 9-10 to gallon on average a bloke asked what mpg ppl where getting or are you stupid and 2 ppl answered

[Duaneri]

Trying to work out how the f**k you can run an artic @ £1:40/mile ? Surely fuel would be half that?

About 7-7.5mpg at 44t on a good day, be fucked if I ran at £1.40 a mile, it’s all job rate or day rate if there is likely to be a lot of waiting around

no mate your right it’s because of operators like me running efficient and not the rate cutters doing work for nothing

[Duaneri]

Trying to work out how the f**k you can run an artic @ £1:40/mile ? Surely fuel would be half that?

About 7-7.5mpg at 44t on a good day, be fucked if I ran at £1.40 a mile, it’s all job rate or day rate if there is likely to be a lot of waiting around

Right now loaded with chipboard out of egger hexham for wren at Scunthorpe sorry camera sh*t

[Duaneri]

Trying to work out how the f**k you can run an artic @ £1:40/mile ? Surely fuel would be half that?

About 7-7.5mpg at 44t on a good day, be fucked if I ran at £1.40 a mile, it’s all job rate or day rate if there is likely to be a lot of waiting around

Weighbridge ticket

[joesapart]

Trying to work out how the f**k you can run an artic @ £1:40/mile ? Surely fuel would be half that?

About 7-7.5mpg at 44t on a good day, be fucked if I ran at £1.40 a mile, it’s all job rate or day rate if there is likely to be a lot of waiting around

no mate your right it’s because of operators like me running efficient and not the rate cutters doing work for nothing

Back loads rates from Scotland are always crap, but if you charge up accordingly it’s ok, we were working up in Dundee not long ago, 2 trips a week from Birmingham up so 4 days work, but was charging customer £1500 a trip so the back load was covering the fuel so was all win win, but I don’t get why you can’t get a similar rate to come home

[louggesf]

About 7-7.5mpg at 44t on a good day, be f**ked if I ran at £1.40 a mile, it’s all job rate or day rate if there is likely to be a lot of waiting around

no mate your right it’s because of operators like me running efficient and not the rate cutters doing work for nothing

Back loads rates from Scotland are always crap, but if you charge up accordingly it’s ok, we were working up in Dundee not long ago, 2 trips a week from Birmingham up so 4 days work, but was charging customer £1500 a trip so the back load was covering the fuel so was all win win, but I don’t get why you can’t get a similar rate to come home

I get 8mpg running with a 60ft extender so I wouldn't have thought 9-10 with a tight coupled curtain was far out