Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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Johnrille
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Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation be attached to a 24. I know it can be attached to a 9 11 or 45 but cant be attached to a 24?
Gintardi
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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Article 8 (7) regulation 561/2006
RussellCall
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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Can’t be added to a 24. Got to be paid back by the end of the third week on a normal 45 (48).
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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RussellCall wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:29 pm Can’t be added to a 24. Got to be paid back by the end of the third week on a normal 45 (48).
can be added to a daily or weekly rest.
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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RussellCall wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:29 pm Can’t be added to a 24. Got to be paid back by the end of the third week on a normal 45 (48).
can be added to any rest period of at least 9 hours.
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RussellCall wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:29 pm Can’t be added to a 24. Got to be paid back by the end of the third week on a normal 45 (48).
It can be added to any rest period of at least 9 hours, so adding it to a 24 would be fine.
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It's my understanding that this option was eliminated during the August 2020 update of Drivers Hours No. 561/2006
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SteveTuch wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:34 pm It's my understanding that this option was eliminated during the August 2020 update of Drivers Hours No. 561/2006
what option was eliminated?
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markiamsta wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:34 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:34 pm It's my understanding that this option was eliminated during the August 2020 update of Drivers Hours No. 561/2006
what option was eliminated?
adding compensatory rest to anything other than a full 45.
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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SteveTuch wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:35 pm
markiamsta wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:34 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:34 pm It's my understanding that this option was eliminated during the August 2020 update of Drivers Hours No. 561/2006
what option was eliminated?
adding compensatory rest to anything other than a full 45.
compensation can be added to a daily or weekly rest still.
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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markiamsta wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:35 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:35 pm
markiamsta wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:34 pm

what option was eliminated?
adding compensatory rest to anything other than a full 45.
compensation can be added to a daily or weekly rest still.
That's fine if everyone is happy recommending this.
I personally tell drivers they shouldn't be taking JUST the absolute minimum of rest, I've never liked that perspective, it's one of the many "pay and conditions" issues that is wrong with the industry.
If anything drivers should be encouraged to take a decent percentage over the minimum, just as standard practice.
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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SteveTuch wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:37 pm
markiamsta wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:35 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:35 pm

adding compensatory rest to anything other than a full 45.
compensation can be added to a daily or weekly rest still.
That's fine if everyone is happy recommending this.
I personally tell drivers they shouldn't be taking JUST the absolute minimum of rest, I've never liked that perspective, it's one of the many "pay and conditions" issues that is wrong with the industry.
If anything drivers should be encouraged to take a decent percentage over the minimum, just as standard practice.
ec561/2006 and gv262 say it. It's not us recommending it.
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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markiamsta wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:38 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:37 pm
markiamsta wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:35 pm

compensation can be added to a daily or weekly rest still.
That's fine if everyone is happy recommending this.
I personally tell drivers they shouldn't be taking JUST the absolute minimum of rest, I've never liked that perspective, it's one of the many "pay and conditions" issues that is wrong with the industry.
If anything drivers should be encouraged to take a decent percentage over the minimum, just as standard practice.
ec561/2006 and gv262 say it. It's not us recommending it.
At the risk of being pedantic, it's now just No.561/2006, we've removed the EC tag post-Brexit.
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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SteveTuch wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:39 pm
markiamsta wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:38 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:37 pm

That's fine if everyone is happy recommending this.
I personally tell drivers they shouldn't be taking JUST the absolute minimum of rest, I've never liked that perspective, it's one of the many "pay and conditions" issues that is wrong with the industry.
If anything drivers should be encouraged to take a decent percentage over the minimum, just as standard practice.
ec561/2006 and gv262 say it. It's not us recommending it.
At the risk of being pedantic, it's now just No.561/2006, we've removed the EC tag post-Brexit.
it's still ec561 as other European countries still use it we run under AETR regulations now with UK regulations gv262.
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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Any reduction must be paid back, attached to a period of at least 9 hours rest by the end of the 3rd week following the week of the reduction. So yes, it can be attached to a 24 hour rest period. It could actually be paid back with just a daily rest if you had enough hours off duty.
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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DeanPink wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:42 pm Any reduction must be paid back, attached to a period of at least 9 hours rest by the end of the 3rd week following the week of the reduction. So yes, it can be attached to a 24 hour rest period. It could actually be paid back with just a daily rest if you had enough hours off duty.
you see im fairly certain pay back can only be attached to a 9 11 or 45 not a 24 but its proving hard to find the documentation
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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Johnrille wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:43 pm
DeanPink wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:42 pm Any reduction must be paid back, attached to a period of at least 9 hours rest by the end of the 3rd week following the week of the reduction. So yes, it can be attached to a 24 hour rest period. It could actually be paid back with just a daily rest if you had enough hours off duty.
you see im fairly certain pay back can only be attached to a 9 11 or 45 not a 24 but its proving hard to find the documentation
how can it not be added to a 24 if it can be added to a 9?
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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It can be added to any rest period of at least 9 hours, so adding it to a 24 would be fine.
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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it says a rest period of AT LEAST 9hrs
DeanPink
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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Heres the wording straight out of the GV262.
A reduced weekly rest period A reduced weekly rest is a rest period of at least 24 but less than 45 continuous hours. It must be compensated for by an equivalent period of rest taken in one block before the end of the third week following the week in question. The compensating rest must be attached to a period of rest of at least 9 hours – in effect either a weekly or a daily rest period.
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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This explains it mate
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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compensation can be added to a daily rest or weekly rest so can be added to a 24 hours weekly rest.
if you can add it to a reduced daily rest why wouldn't you be allowed to add it to a reduced weekly rest?
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Re: Please could someone explain compensatory rest? Say a driver has a rest of 42 hours can the 3 hours compensation

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24 is a maximum reduction, from 45 hours, creating its own period to compensate.
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