Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
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Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
Hello there,
I will be looking to purchase one or two truck unit euro 6 2015-2017.
To do trumping work and two skelly trailers I would appreciate if you could share with me your experience on the following trucks.
Scania
Daf
Renault
Volvo
Mercedes
Man
What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator.
Will buying from auction good idea?
Skeleton trailers.
Whats good between
Disk brake / drum brake
Bpw/ror/ saf
Trailer would be any thing between 2005-2010
I will be looking to purchase one or two truck unit euro 6 2015-2017.
To do trumping work and two skelly trailers I would appreciate if you could share with me your experience on the following trucks.
Scania
Daf
Renault
Volvo
Mercedes
Man
What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator.
Will buying from auction good idea?
Skeleton trailers.
Whats good between
Disk brake / drum brake
Bpw/ror/ saf
Trailer would be any thing between 2005-2010
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Re: Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
Before you commit to anything do you have guaranteed paying work? If you don't, don't bother. If you do, what is your budget? Trucks are trucks... Most people have a favored marque... We run MAN not because they're the best but because they're reasonable to buy, mechanically they're sound and parts prices are not astronomical. Personally we use a main dealer because they have ready access to parts but there is an independent garage close by who are slightly cheaper on labour. Trailers, buy drum, avoid discs like the plague. BPW rarely go wrong. Have seen 2011 skeletal going as cheap as £3500 each...
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Re: Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
Budget £16,000 per unitWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:33 am Before you commit to anything do you have guaranteed paying work? If you don't, don't bother. If you do, what is your budget? Trucks are trucks... Most people have a favored marque... We run MAN not because they're the best but because they're reasonable to buy, mechanically they're sound and parts prices are not astronomical. Personally we use a main dealer because they have ready access to parts but there is an independent garage close by who are slightly cheaper on labour. Trailers, buy drum, avoid discs like the plague. BPW rarely go wrong. Have seen 2011 skeletal going as cheap as £3500 each...
Ideal truck that you can get parts easily in a friendly prices also not having on going breakdowns and have to be dealt by main dealer always.
Also fuel consumption matters most.
I was told by few about man are expensive to maintain??
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Re: Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
we've run 7 in 4 years. Nothing major gone wrong. Bought 1st last year and a 2nd this year. Ex fleet motor from MAN. (ex PCL) dealer maintained from new... Approx. 400 k.. £15k... Euro 6 65 plate. Not the best truck to drive but reasonable. Averages 8.5 mpg fully freighted. If you're prepared to go a little older there is some stuff about now. We had an Actros. Great new with dealer back up but I wouldn't touch a used one... Gearbox, clutch TCM are the Achilles heel... Big money when they go wrong... If you're buying get recovery insurance... About £500 per truck... Worth having. Unlimited recoveriesAntonisher wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:33 amBudget £16,000 per unitWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:33 am Before you commit to anything do you have guaranteed paying work? If you don't, don't bother. If you do, what is your budget? Trucks are trucks... Most people have a favored marque... We run MAN not because they're the best but because they're reasonable to buy, mechanically they're sound and parts prices are not astronomical. Personally we use a main dealer because they have ready access to parts but there is an independent garage close by who are slightly cheaper on labour. Trailers, buy drum, avoid discs like the plague. BPW rarely go wrong. Have seen 2011 skeletal going as cheap as £3500 each...
Ideal truck that you can get parts easily in a friendly prices also not having on going breakdowns and have to be dealt by main dealer always.
Also fuel consumption matters most.
I was told by few about man are expensive to maintain??
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Re: Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
I find MAN shocking shit always break down even new no matter how you look after them and gearbox is programmed by Steve wonder haha worse gearbox in the industry worse truck cheap not for me sorry
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you've may be had bad luck. Yeah they're not a Volvo or Scania but they're not Volvo or Scania money. It's not always the truck it's the back up. Build quality is shite but mechanically they're sound.
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Re: Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
Really appreciate your adviseWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:35 amwe've run 7 in 4 years. Nothing major gone wrong. Bought 1st last year and a 2nd this year. Ex fleet motor from MAN. (ex PCL) dealer maintained from new... Approx. 400 k.. £15k... Euro 6 65 plate. Not the best truck to drive but reasonable. Averages 8.5 mpg fully freighted. If you're prepared to go a little older there is some stuff about now. We had an Actros. Great new with dealer back up but I wouldn't touch a used one... Gearbox, clutch TCM are the Achilles heel... Big money when they go wrong... If you're buying get recovery insurance... About £500 per truck... Worth having. Unlimited recoveriesAntonisher wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:33 amBudget £16,000 per unitWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:33 am Before you commit to anything do you have guaranteed paying work? If you don't, don't bother. If you do, what is your budget? Trucks are trucks... Most people have a favored marque... We run MAN not because they're the best but because they're reasonable to buy, mechanically they're sound and parts prices are not astronomical. Personally we use a main dealer because they have ready access to parts but there is an independent garage close by who are slightly cheaper on labour. Trailers, buy drum, avoid discs like the plague. BPW rarely go wrong. Have seen 2011 skeletal going as cheap as £3500 each...
Ideal truck that you can get parts easily in a friendly prices also not having on going breakdowns and have to be dealt by main dealer always.
Also fuel consumption matters most.
I was told by few about man are expensive to maintain??
Re: Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
maybe not a scania or volvo i never put them in the same bracket but even when i use to drive for others they bad mate and fuel shit on them i know someone who had a 440 one and went to scania 440 and gain 3 mpg more with same weight always fully freighted in truck world 3 mpg alot and they have training in saving fuel with the company and if they get below a certain mpg there in the office so bad truckWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:36 amyou've may be had bad luck. Yeah they're not a Volvo or Scania but they're not Volvo or Scania money. It's not always the truck it's the back up. Build quality is shite but mechanically they're sound.
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I'd look at a lease initially. We do 50/50.... You're looking at £375/380 per week on full R&M including tyres. No sleepless Nightscharlesse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:38 ammaybe not a scania or volvo i never put them in the same bracket but even when i use to drive for others they bad mate and fuel shit on them i know someone who had a 440 one and went to scania 440 and gain 3 mpg more with same weight always fully freighted in truck world 3 mpg alot and they have training in saving fuel with the company and if they get below a certain mpg there in the office so bad truckWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:36 amyou've may be had bad luck. Yeah they're not a Volvo or Scania but they're not Volvo or Scania money. It's not always the truck it's the back up. Build quality is shite but mechanically they're sound.
Re: Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
yeah I do a lease i think but I'd never have a Man weather i worked for others or run my own never found them any good as a driver or operator but each to there own. like I said each to there own just a opinionWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:38 amI'd look at a lease initially. We do 50/50.... You're looking at £375/380 per week on full R&M including tyres. No sleepless Nightscharlesse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:38 ammaybe not a scania or volvo i never put them in the same bracket but even when i use to drive for others they bad mate and fuel shit on them i know someone who had a 440 one and went to scania 440 and gain 3 mpg more with same weight always fully freighted in truck world 3 mpg alot and they have training in saving fuel with the company and if they get below a certain mpg there in the office so bad truckWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:36 am
you've may be had bad luck. Yeah they're not a Volvo or Scania but they're not Volvo or Scania money. It's not always the truck it's the back up. Build quality is shite but mechanically they're sound.
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Re: Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
we run 2 440's and 2 480's. One of the 480's is a Euro 5.. outpulls the rest... Lot of cheap 440s on the market. Next one we buy will be a 500charlesse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:39 amyeah I do a lease i think but I'd never have a Man weather i worked for others or run my own never found them any good as a driver or operator but each to there own. like I said each to there own just a opinionWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:38 amI'd look at a lease initially. We do 50/50.... You're looking at £375/380 per week on full R&M including tyres. No sleepless Nightscharlesse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:38 am
maybe not a scania or volvo i never put them in the same bracket but even when i use to drive for others they bad mate and fuel shit on them i know someone who had a 440 one and went to scania 440 and gain 3 mpg more with same weight always fully freighted in truck world 3 mpg alot and they have training in saving fuel with the company and if they get below a certain mpg there in the office so bad truck
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were my mate works got 450 scania nothing done out pulls a 480 man on hills every time specially on hillsWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:40 amwe run 2 440's and 2 480's. One of the 480's is a Euro 5.. outpulls the rest... Lot of cheap 440s on the market. Next one we buy will be a 500charlesse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:39 amyeah I do a lease i think but I'd never have a Man weather i worked for others or run my own never found them any good as a driver or operator but each to there own. like I said each to there own just a opinionWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:38 am
I'd look at a lease initially. We do 50/50.... You're looking at £375/380 per week on full R&M including tyres. No sleepless Nights
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I have seen few scania 440-450-410 going on reasonable price are they good as the 420?
Re: Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
only good thing i think is there a big cab that it good size for tramping so i give them that I think the ERF was a miles better truck for pulling the lot reliability
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when i got handed keys to a Man i knew the shift was long that gearbox just doesn't know what to do it frustrating as a driver. no they don't earn more but you want a truck that up to the job the man price reflect in how bad they are each to there own miles per gallon shit on them to
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next gen will have a Scania gearbox... Plan is to have 50/60 % parts common. MAN now supply Scania with components for the V8charlesse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:44 amwhen i got handed keys to a Man i knew the shift was long that gearbox just doesn't know what to do it frustrating as a driver. no they don't earn more but you want a truck that up to the job the man price reflect in how bad they are each to there own miles per gallon shit on them to
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Well hope scania sort them out if never hated a truck brand so much before and i love my trucks in not a brand man i just a sad git who loves trucks driving and owning and going the shows and man well almost put me off but like I said we all different that good and different tasteWilliaThug wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:45 amnext gen will have a Scania gearbox... Plan is to have 50/60 % parts common. MAN now supply Scania with components for the V8charlesse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:44 amwhen i got handed keys to a Man i knew the shift was long that gearbox just doesn't know what to do it frustrating as a driver. no they don't earn more but you want a truck that up to the job the man price reflect in how bad they are each to there own miles per gallon shit on them to
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Nothing to touch Scania 450....fuel economy is remarkable, yes, the upfront price is an issue, but you will always recoup at sale with higher residuals and the fuel saving of 20 to 30 % over the life of the truck. Try Smith Bros for used 450 highline Scania.... They always have manuals and autos.... Tag or midlift ... Expect 15k for 2015 to 55k for 2017/8......our next one will be Swedish.
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As a new operator I wouldn't be buying anything. Rent short term and see if there is any money in it. I can guarantee, that after a month on boxes you will be back here asking for food...
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I agree in some of your advise but in relation of returns, many trucks out there busy in the road so I believe work is always there is just how you can source it and how you budget your self.Wojciechap wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:47 am As a new operator I wouldn't be buying anything. Rent short term and see if there is any money in it. I can guarantee, that after a month on boxes you will be back here asking for food...
If there is no work I would think the trucks would be this much we see on the motorways
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a lot of trucks is a lot of competition, lot of competition is is driving prices down...Antonisher wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:06 pmI agree in some of your advise but in relation of returns, many trucks out there busy in the road so I believe work is always there is just how you can source it and how you budget your self.Wojciechap wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:47 am As a new operator I wouldn't be buying anything. Rent short term and see if there is any money in it. I can guarantee, that after a month on boxes you will be back here asking for food...
If there is no work I would think the trucks would be this much we see on the motorways
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I'd second that... Our first truck on a deal with MAN was £250 per week... Excluding tyres on full R&M. No worries whatsoever. Had to put down 3 months rental with 1st but nothing with 2nd, if you're not driving one yourself what profit are you looking for? If you're not a CPC holder (TM) and you're paying an external TM to get an o licence and an accountant there'll be nothing left... On £2300 per week turnover you might make £240/250 after truck costs, wages, fuel, night out payments, employers NI, pension and holiday pay...Wojciechap wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:47 am As a new operator I wouldn't be buying anything. Rent short term and see if there is any money in it. I can guarantee, that after a month on boxes you will be back here asking for food...
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To be honest I’m considering purchase rather than renting, the way I look at it £1000 per month paying someone to rent something that I might be able to purchase and use it to save running cost.Wojciechap wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:07 pma lot of trucks is a lot of competition, lot of competition is is driving prices down...Antonisher wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:06 pmI agree in some of your advise but in relation of returns, many trucks out there busy in the road so I believe work is always there is just how you can source it and how you budget your self.Wojciechap wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:47 am As a new operator I wouldn't be buying anything. Rent short term and see if there is any money in it. I can guarantee, that after a month on boxes you will be back here asking for food...
If there is no work I would think the trucks would be this much we see on the motorways
I might be wrong but please point out why renting instead of buying if the fund available. I’m cpc holder my self
Also I’m class 1 driver but I’m not planning to sit on the driver seat as I have another commitment how ever I can always jump and cover shifts etc. if you're not driving one yourself what profit are you looking for? If you're not a CPC holder (TM) and you're paying an external TM to get an o licence and an accountant there'll be nothing left... On £2300 per week turnover you might make £240/250 after truck costs, wages, fuel, night out payments, employers NI, pension and holiday pay...
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it's up to you. but bearing in mind your budget of 16k per unit E6, you are looking at some oldest/highest mileage examples of E6, and from my experience I can tell it's not gonna end up wellAntonisher wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:11 pmTo be honest I’m considering purchase rather than renting, the way I look at it £1000 per month paying someone to rent something that I might be able to purchase and use it to save running cost.Wojciechap wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:07 pma lot of trucks is a lot of competition, lot of competition is is driving prices down...Antonisher wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:06 pm
I agree in some of your advise but in relation of returns, many trucks out there busy in the road so I believe work is always there is just how you can source it and how you budget your self.
If there is no work I would think the trucks would be this much we see on the motorways
I might be wrong but please point out why renting instead of buying if the fund available. I’m cpc holder my self
Also I’m class 1 driver but I’m not planning to sit on the driver seat as I have another commitment how ever I can always jump and cover shifts etc. if you're not driving one yourself what profit are you looking for? If you're not a CPC holder (TM) and you're paying an external TM to get an o licence and an accountant there'll be nothing left... On £2300 per week turnover you might make £240/250 after truck costs, wages, fuel, night out payments, employers NI, pension and holiday pay...
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good luck.... It's a dog eat dog world at the moment and only going to get worse
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Alot of company's dispose of trucks at 2 years old as the are usually spent
Re: Hello, What do you think would be the best truck to start with as new operator. Will buying from auction good idea?
buying is generally best. but your looking at a older truck with your budget. have you got the funds for a major breakdown. if you rent to start it's all. fixed costs and can budget while waiting for money to come in and find your feet.
their maybe plenty trucks on road and you'll get plenty work but don't expect the rates to be any good. it's no good loading at 8am to tip at 2pm for a £150 load cause that's day over
their maybe plenty trucks on road and you'll get plenty work but don't expect the rates to be any good. it's no good loading at 8am to tip at 2pm for a £150 load cause that's day over
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I'd go for a daf xf or something to start of with stay away from MAN there shit even from new and auto gearbox is a joke more an of worse drivers can change gear in a truck better and feel cheap seem to fall apart daf xf super space cab upwards i work with
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Buy Scania ...they have very good prices ....speak with thus guys ....
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Scania direct sale +447469089404 Eyn
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I’ll be doing same as you during summer. I'm debating either MAN or SCANIA.
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Got 2 MAN 2015 euro 6 tractor units and one skelly trailer here for sale ready to work if interested
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I have 2 skellies for sale both 2010 one Dennison and one SDC £3500 each
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They are on ROR drums working up to corona virus just been inspected all ready to goAntonisher wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:30 pmPm me some pictures of the skellys also what brake system are they on and axle brand?
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Okkingeact wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:31 pmThey are on ROR drums working up to corona virus just been inspected all ready to goAntonisher wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:30 pmPm me some pictures of the skellys also what brake system are they on and axle brand?
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I also have a choice of Daf 106 units from 64 plate to 66 plate so I can help you with units & trailers
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If i was looking at buying a truck it would only be a Volvo 500
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If you look at MAN have a word with Lawmans Commercials in Desford. What they don't know about MANs ain't worth knowing. I've got 2 Merc Actros and 1 DAF. The Mercs have been better on fuel and maintenance.
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Trumping eh, best learn to spell if running a company
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This is not a game for chancers
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The mote than come along the lower the rates get and the big boys are now starting to jump ship Why do Eastern Europeans choose to come to UK to start up in transport when rates are far better in most of Europe the UK are running for diesel money and wages Nothing left to pay for truck or wages let alone Road Tax and Insurance Some container companies paying £1.25 per mile
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It will turn around it's not all about price. Service goes a long way and no way can you provide a timed service for 1.25 per mile. I would shut the doors if we run around for that.kingeact wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:44 pmThe mote than come along the lower the rates get and the big boys are now starting to jump ship Why do Eastern Europeans choose to come to UK to start up in transport when rates are far better in most of Europe the UK are running for diesel money and wages Nothing left to pay for truck or wages let alone Road Tax and Insurance Some container companies paying £1.25 per mile
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Looking for 20ft iso trailer or 30ft skeletal non sliding.
please contact me.
please contact me.
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Hi. As for buying from auctions, it can be a bit of a gamble. Make sure you do your research and give those trucks a thorough inspection. And when it comes to brakes, both disk and drum have their pros and cons. It really depends on what you're looking for. Lastly, brands like BPW, ROR, and SAF all have their own unique qualities.
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So, take your time and consider what's important to you. Reliability and maintenance should definitely be top priorities. The DAF XF, Volvo FH, and Mercedes Actros are all solid choices. But hey, have you checked out Truck Exporter's range of choices? They have lots of trucks, including Euro 6 models from 2015-2017. It might be worth a look.
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Just came across this article - might be of some help?
Best tractor units for owner drivers
Best tractor units for owner drivers
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Without doubt DAF would be the best tractor unit to start with, and to operate long term, BUT you need to maintain them yourself ? As ANY main Stealer which ever make are a Waste of Time, Most can inspect them with out LOOKING at them lol ( I could do a better job watching from a motorway bridge ) We have a DAF with 1.5 millon on the clock Clutch at 1m turbo at 1.4 m Engine / box / axle / brakes disc not touched.
Maybe someone can show me a Scania that would last that long lol
Maybe someone can show me a Scania that would last that long lol
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