Afternoon, Fuel next week.. NWF Keyfuels £115.82.. FCC Keyfuels £115.98.. UK Fuels £116.47.. 4p down from this

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Afternoon, Fuel next week.. NWF Keyfuels £115.82.. FCC Keyfuels £115.98.. UK Fuels £116.47.. 4p down from this week
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Post by Williane »

Think we dodged a bullet this week. Thought the chancellor would impose the fuel duty levy they'd delayed last year.
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Post by Pawelin »

The amount off bullets industry took they thought leave the zombie to heal and double size bullet for next year. 😩😩
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Post by MiMarcin »

I'm having 5p more than those prices from NWF KEYFUELS, wondering why they offer different prices to their customers, any explanation plz?
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Post by Stevend »

MiMarcin wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:28 pm I'm having 5p more than those prices from NWF KEYFUELS, wondering why they offer different prices to their customers, any explanation plz?
Maximizing profit margins,
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Post by Mikenn »

MiMarcin wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:28 pm I'm having 5p more than those prices from NWF KEYFUELS, wondering why they offer different prices to their customers, any explanation plz?
same with other providers. Mines been more than some 🤷
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Post by Alancera »

That can't be right with UK Fuels? Mine's £1.20,23 next week.....🤔
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Post by Sandon »

Alancera wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:31 pm That can't be right with UK Fuels? Mine's £1.20,23 next week.....🤔
fuel card providers charge every single one of their customers differently
They have a “tier” system they work on and the higher tier they can get you on the more your contact as your supplier makes in commission
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Post by Simoon »

Sandon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:33 pm
Alancera wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:31 pm That can't be right with UK Fuels? Mine's £1.20,23 next week.....🤔
fuel card providers charge every single one of their customers differently
They have a “tier” system they work on and the higher tier they can get you on the more your contact as your supplier makes in commission
its called *risk* and if you are what they deem a risk, you are going to get your pants pulled down, volume also comes into it and I'd imagine that being a well run business might just come into it as well....My best price for next week is 114.65 🕵🎯
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Post by Sandon »

Simoon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:34 pm
Sandon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:33 pm
Alancera wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:31 pm That can't be right with UK Fuels? Mine's £1.20,23 next week.....🤔
fuel card providers charge every single one of their customers differently
They have a “tier” system they work on and the higher tier they can get you on the more your contact as your supplier makes in commission
its called *risk* and if you are what they deem a risk, you are going to get your pants pulled down, volume also comes into it and I'd imagine that being a well run business might just come into it as well....My best price for next week is 114.65 🕵🎯
not really anything to do with risk mate I used to have involvement with one the big card providers it’s all about reducing the margin between discounted price and pump price. The closer your sales advisor gets to to pump price the more they earn in commission
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Post by Simoon »

Sandon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:35 pm
Simoon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:34 pm
Sandon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:33 pm

fuel card providers charge every single one of their customers differently
They have a “tier” system they work on and the higher tier they can get you on the more your contact as your supplier makes in commission
its called *risk* and if you are what they deem a risk, you are going to get your pants pulled down, volume also comes into it and I'd imagine that being a well run business might just come into it as well....My best price for next week is 114.65 🕵🎯
not really anything to do with risk mate I used to have involvement with one the big card providers it’s all about reducing the margin between discounted price and pump price. The closer your sales advisor gets to to pump price the more they earn in commission
they don't deal with divvy's, that`s the *risk* element....I used to use a professional fuel buyer a few years ago when we were buying 30k a week along with a group of other operators in our area, and his mantra was always *risk*, you have got to be a well run operation to get the best prices, that`s my take on it, and after 45 years in this game, I`ve managed to keep the card sharks and their puppet masters quiet, as I`ve never let them down with payments
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Simoon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:36 pm
Sandon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:35 pm
Simoon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:34 pm

its called *risk* and if you are what they deem a risk, you are going to get your pants pulled down, volume also comes into it and I'd imagine that being a well run business might just come into it as well....My best price for next week is 114.65 🕵🎯
not really anything to do with risk mate I used to have involvement with one the big card providers it’s all about reducing the margin between discounted price and pump price. The closer your sales advisor gets to to pump price the more they earn in commission
they don't deal with divvy's, that`s the *risk* element....I used to use a professional fuel buyer a few years ago when we were buying 30k a week along with a group of other operators in our area, and his mantra was always *risk*, you have got to be a well run operation to get the best prices, that`s my take on it, and after 45 years in this game, I`ve managed to keep the card sharks and their puppet masters quiet, as I`ve never let them down with payments
yeah they do a risk assessment on credit worthiness etc before signing up a new client however once on their books they use a tier system so for example say the *best price* for the week is 8p below pump price they will start you on tier 12 which is a further 1.2p for example under the *best price* to entice you to use the card more
As the “trust” is built up and the customer doesn’t monitor and scrutinise as much after weeks/months they move you down the tiers and narrow the gap between your price and pump price
And contrary to the belief the more fuel you use the cheaper you get it, the fuel card companies tend to give cheaper prices to those who use less as they most likely will monitor their spend/use more
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Post by Simoon »

Sandon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:37 pm
Simoon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:36 pm
Sandon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:35 pm

not really anything to do with risk mate I used to have involvement with one the big card providers it’s all about reducing the margin between discounted price and pump price. The closer your sales advisor gets to to pump price the more they earn in commission
they don't deal with divvy's, that`s the *risk* element....I used to use a professional fuel buyer a few years ago when we were buying 30k a week along with a group of other operators in our area, and his mantra was always *risk*, you have got to be a well run operation to get the best prices, that`s my take on it, and after 45 years in this game, I`ve managed to keep the card sharks and their puppet masters quiet, as I`ve never let them down with payments
yeah they do a risk assessment on credit worthiness etc before signing up a new client however once on their books they use a tier system so for example say the *best price* for the week is 8p below pump price they will start you on tier 12 which is a further 1.2p for example under the *best price* to entice you to use the card more
As the “trust” is built up and the customer doesn’t monitor and scrutinise as much after weeks/months they move you down the tiers and narrow the gap between your price and pump price
And contrary to the belief the more fuel you use the cheaper you get it, the fuel card companies tend to give cheaper prices to those who use less as they most likely will monitor their spend/use more
TBF, i think I've got a decent set of suppliers ATM, we carry 10 cards and play them off each other, some get a bit mardy if they don`t get a look in, but it keeps them on their toes [IMO].....The sharks that rely on you being a bit dipsy are consigned to the bin, but you have to be careful with them for sure, your excellent explanation needs to be understood by anyone coming into this industry, they are not your friends and need to be kept at arms length
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Post by Sandon »

Simoon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:38 pm
Sandon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:37 pm
Simoon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:36 pm

they don't deal with divvy's, that`s the *risk* element....I used to use a professional fuel buyer a few years ago when we were buying 30k a week along with a group of other operators in our area, and his mantra was always *risk*, you have got to be a well run operation to get the best prices, that`s my take on it, and after 45 years in this game, I`ve managed to keep the card sharks and their puppet masters quiet, as I`ve never let them down with payments
yeah they do a risk assessment on credit worthiness etc before signing up a new client however once on their books they use a tier system so for example say the *best price* for the week is 8p below pump price they will start you on tier 12 which is a further 1.2p for example under the *best price* to entice you to use the card more
As the “trust” is built up and the customer doesn’t monitor and scrutinise as much after weeks/months they move you down the tiers and narrow the gap between your price and pump price
And contrary to the belief the more fuel you use the cheaper you get it, the fuel card companies tend to give cheaper prices to those who use less as they most likely will monitor their spend/use more
TBF, i think I've got a decent set of suppliers ATM, we carry 10 cards and play them off each other, some get a bit mardy if they don`t get a look in, but it keeps them on their toes [IMO].....The sharks that rely on you being a bit dipsy are consigned to the bin, but you have to be careful with them for sure, your excellent explanation needs to be understood by anyone coming into this industry, they are not your friends and need to be kept at arms length
also need to be wise to them giving prices excluding vat aswell as that’s another tactic used by them to lure in the less savvy
One girl who I won’t name as she got removed from position when customers tried to do her for fraud (recorded calls) made thousands in commission by using the not including vat tactic
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Post by Klynnex »

As24 is 1.16
Morgan’s 1.20
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Post by Paully »

You need to negotiate with them I do every week my best for next week is 1.15 FCC
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Post by Markelle »

Account xxxxxx. Fuel price for w/c 20.03.23. Your UK Fuels fuel price is 102.18ppl. Our T&Cs can be found at
https://www.ukfuels.co.uk/
0344 880 2468.
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Post by Mikeen02 »

Markelle wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:44 pm Account xxxxxx. Fuel price for w/c 20.03.23. Your UK Fuels fuel price is 102.18ppl. Our T&Cs can be found at
https://www.ukfuels.co.uk/
0344 880 2468.
must use umpteen litres a week to get that price
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Post by Markelle »

Mikeen02 wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:44 pm
Markelle wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:44 pm Account xxxxxx. Fuel price for w/c 20.03.23. Your UK Fuels fuel price is 102.18ppl. Our T&Cs can be found at
https://www.ukfuels.co.uk/
0344 880 2468.
must use umpteen litres a week to get that price
8000 l a week
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Post by Markelle »

Mikeen02 wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:44 pm
Markelle wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:44 pm Account xxxxxx. Fuel price for w/c 20.03.23. Your UK Fuels fuel price is 102.18ppl. Our T&Cs can be found at
https://www.ukfuels.co.uk/
0344 880 2468.
must use umpteen litres a week to get that price
I close my account with them last week.
And yesterday they send me this price i think is to make me go back with them
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Post by Mikeen02 »

Markelle wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:45 pm
Mikeen02 wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:44 pm
Markelle wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:44 pm Account xxxxxx. Fuel price for w/c 20.03.23. Your UK Fuels fuel price is 102.18ppl. Our T&Cs can be found at
https://www.ukfuels.co.uk/
0344 880 2468.
must use umpteen litres a week to get that price
I close my account with them last week.
And yesterday they send me this price i think is to make me go back with them
fair few wagons then
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Post by Kevines »

Not the brightest thing to put on here 😡
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Post by Kiterrin »

How much fuel do you use each week? We're on about 600-800l and best price is 118.56
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Post by Mikeen02 »

If you don't use a certain provider for weeks, they lower their prices to get you back using..Just play um off.
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Post by Mikeen02 »

My Morgan's is always dearer than the others so dont use it.
My sales rep could never get it down on par with the others. So closed my account
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Post by Crister40 »

What good are lower fuel prices is there very little to no work around and rates are crap?
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Drop me a message at UK Fuels - for our UK Fuels truck one cards
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