Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
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Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Watch your fuel cards!
I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised.
Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my account in 3 days. Fuel card company have said they will not reimburse me.
Money has been taken from my account and I have no comeback. The bank will not refund either.
Please be careful with fuel cards. I have contacted 4 other fuel card companies and they all said the same. If fuel is drawn with a cloned card you will not get a refund.
Users be aware I will not be using them again. I think you should all check with your fuel card companies what protection you have for this to happen to you.
You work hard just for some scum bag to take your money.
I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised.
Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my account in 3 days. Fuel card company have said they will not reimburse me.
Money has been taken from my account and I have no comeback. The bank will not refund either.
Please be careful with fuel cards. I have contacted 4 other fuel card companies and they all said the same. If fuel is drawn with a cloned card you will not get a refund.
Users be aware I will not be using them again. I think you should all check with your fuel card companies what protection you have for this to happen to you.
You work hard just for some scum bag to take your money.
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
How did they get pin number bud?
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
No idea as my drivers are very careful. As I told the card company it isn’t hard for people to look over your shoulder. Card company said they had never heard of that happening before!!!!
I had 12 transaction made, the card registration on the card was not even one that is registered to my account so should NEVER had been allowed to be used.
I will never use a fuel card company again. Another reason I don’t let my drivers do tramping or nights out. No need for a fuel card. It was just for convenience, well not very convenient to loose £3200 plus vat in 3 days
I had 12 transaction made, the card registration on the card was not even one that is registered to my account so should NEVER had been allowed to be used.
I will never use a fuel card company again. Another reason I don’t let my drivers do tramping or nights out. No need for a fuel card. It was just for convenience, well not very convenient to loose £3200 plus vat in 3 days
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
where was the fraud in the Uksteperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:08 am No idea as my drivers are very careful. As I told the card company it isn’t hard for people to look over your shoulder. Card company said they had never heard of that happening before!!!!
I had 12 transaction made, the card registration on the card was not even one that is registered to my account so should NEVER had been allowed to be used.
I will never use a fuel card company again. Another reason I don’t let my drivers do tramping or nights out. No need for a fuel card. It was just for convenience, well not very convenient to loose £3200 plus vat in 3 days
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
They've lost alot more than 3k now your not using them so I don't get why they can't, things happen definitely not your fault ! if someone clones my bank card I'm covered so why should fuel card be any different. I would look at there terms and conditions and the lawSteHeadlines wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:11 amwhere was the fraud in the Uksteperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:08 am No idea as my drivers are very careful. As I told the card company it isn’t hard for people to look over your shoulder. Card company said they had never heard of that happening before!!!!
I had 12 transaction made, the card registration on the card was not even one that is registered to my account so should NEVER had been allowed to be used.
I will never use a fuel card company again. Another reason I don’t let my drivers do tramping or nights out. No need for a fuel card. It was just for convenience, well not very convenient to loose £3200 plus vat in 3 days
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
My card got blocked used it in Southampton dock's someone tried getting £6000 of it
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
mine should have been. They said it takes up to 72 hours to update their system from any purchase from fuel stations.
They have just washed their hands of it.
Police don’t want to know either.
All a waste of time.
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
card company stopped it going throughsteperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:16 ammine should have been. They said it takes up to 72 hours to update their system from any purchase from fuel stations.
They have just washed their hands of it.
Police don’t want to know either.
All a waste of time.
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
as above UKF stopped card and called within a few minutessteperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:16 ammine should have been. They said it takes up to 72 hours to update their system from any purchase from fuel stations.
They have just washed their hands of it.
Police don’t want to know either.
All a waste of time.
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Uk fuels did nothing for meBlakellyo wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:17 amas above UKF stopped card and called within a few minutessteperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:16 ammine should have been. They said it takes up to 72 hours to update their system from any purchase from fuel stations.
They have just washed their hands of it.
Police don’t want to know either.
All a waste of time.
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
This was a thing about 10 years ago. Don't know how they did it but they did get caught
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
There was a case a few years ago of a garage in the North West that would take your card before filling and clone it, a camera would pick the pin up when you paid, and it was battered over a few days the garage owner got 6 months, they said he got away with 250k worth of diesel, I've hated handing my card over since
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Ours are on account, so if that happened, (never has), we wouldn’t pay for fuel we haven’t had. (Unsure on the legal side of this).
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Surely if you never received the goods, you don’t have to pay?steperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:28 amI said the same and took legal advice. They said I would be chased for non payment. Hi
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
let them chase, you never made the transactions they need to prove you didtraStunna wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:28 amSurely if you never received the goods, you don’t have to pay?steperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:28 amI said the same and took legal advice. They said I would be chased for non payment. Hi
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
I paid the bill as it’s direct debit. I paid in good faith expecting to get it back.grandGeo wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:29 amlet them chase, you never made the transactions they need to prove you didtraStunna wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:28 amSurely if you never received the goods, you don’t have to pay?steperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:28 am
I said the same and took legal advice. They said I would be chased for non payment. Hi
Clearly I was wrong.
Not many honest people left these days!!
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
I had an incident in Spain a few years ago. Was double manning with the boss and got out the truck to get a coffee. Some bloke walked real close to me where the keys were in my pocket. We assume they somehow cloned the key. Got into the truck and switched the edc card with a edc card from some polish firm. Before we realized a fair few grand had been drawn from it.
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Because card should have security text. Like you driver want refuel he call to you or send text „i will refuel in next 10 minutes”. He put card in card reader and on your phone should come text „do you recognize/accepted this transactions Y/N”. Big problem solved easy .
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Many people write how clone card - like the same in ATM
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Pretty sure a fuel card comes under credit card law
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Which services? I was pulled up by my gaffer this morning cos 320 litres was on my fuel card last week, I’ve only got a 250 litre tank! Luckily I’ve got the receipt for the 189 litres I actually did fill up with! So we can prove the 320 litres extra wasn’t us!
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
that’s won’t mean much to a fuel card company. I have had the card in my possession for 3 weeks when these 12 thefts occurred all in 3 days so no way anyone could have used it.DanPerson wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:35 am Which services? I was pulled up by my gaffer this morning cos 320 litres was on my fuel card last week, I’ve only got a 250 litre tank! Luckily I’ve got the receipt for the 189 litres I actually did fill up with! So we can prove the 320 litres extra wasn’t us!
Company still didn’t want to know.
This post is just to warn people there is no security with the cards so be careful.
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Likely someone from the petrol station
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Thanks for the heads up on this!
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
I take it the card has been used at bunking sites which still have cameras, this happened to me many many years ago I s**ked a driver on a Friday he took card and filled up 1000litre ibc’s over the weekend cost me nearly £6k police had it all on camera but couldn’t make his face out couldn’t believe it, fuel company took me to court I never repaid as had a 600litre limit per day on card cause he did it over weekend they never stopped card that was many moons ago. Only thing it f**ked my fuel credit rating had to hand over a large deposit which they kept for 24months
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
How do drivers know who to trust behind the counter.??..for that's where its happening..i think...be careful out there guys n gals.
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
The trouble is,, you have to hand the card over before you fuel up.. so its easy to clone,,, for them behind the counter,,,
And if they clock your pin number,,, boom....game over
And if they clock your pin number,,, boom....game over
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
You must work for a crap company then
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
why do you say that?
I’m the owner, just warning other people to be careful.
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
that's a different scenario then altogether. Fair enough..I wrongly assumed that you were a driver for a company and you were expected to pay out of your own pocket...apologiessteperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:50 amwhy do you say that?
I’m the owner, just warning other people to be careful.
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This is just a heads up to owners of cards.
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
our Key Fuel cards dont even need pin, just swipe and signature on receipt
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Frankly south bound on the M5 even sign the receipt! Covid rules apparentlydanestype13 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:52 am our Key Fuel cards dont even need pin, just swipe and signature on receipt
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
The good thing about fuel cards is, if you pay weekly and have a low credit limit....they won't get too much fuel!
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
A lot ask for card at BP I never give mine
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
And this is why handing in fuel cards needs to stop!!
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
I an in Israeli at the minute and can assure you there in nothing stolen here. No messing with the Israeli police
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Do you not have the details of where the fuel was taken and could you prove that your drivers/you were elsewhere when these payments were taken if fuel card company don’t want to know?
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
yes I have submitted all that but they just don’t care. Once someone has cloned the card and has the PIN number the debt lies with you. Even with video footage once a pin is used all fuel companies have no liability. No protection for the genuine card holder. I will never be using cards again.
Be warned I’m clearly not the only Haulage company for it to happen to.
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
pretty cr*p that. Only issue is how they got the PIN. Think thats the same with debit and credit cards toosteperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 10:18 amyes I have submitted all that but they just don’t care. Once someone has cloned the card and has the PIN number the debt lies with you. Even with video footage once a pin is used all fuel companies have no liability. No protection for the genuine card holder. I will never be using cards again.
Be warned I’m clearly not the only Haulage company for it to happen to.
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
The worst thing is the police don't give a toss, we lost £4,800 across a weekend and even went to one of the fuel stations, got their CCTV file and gave it to the police who identified the thief. They then bollocked my boss for getting involved and doing their job for them, a job which they weren't doing themselves!! It went to court and they put an order on the the scrote who stole our diesel of £1,500 to be paid over 2 years, we got nothing back and he walked away to rob another day. Drivers still write the pin number on the back of the card however many times you ask them not to.steperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 10:18 amyes I have submitted all that but they just don’t care. Once someone has cloned the card and has the PIN number the debt lies with you. Even with video footage once a pin is used all fuel companies have no liability. No protection for the genuine card holder. I will never be using cards again.
Be warned I’m clearly not the only Haulage company for it to happen to.
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Thanks for the reply.KinBloom wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 10:20 amThe worst thing is the police don't give a toss, we lost £4,800 across a weekend and even went to one of the fuel stations, got their CCTV file and gave it to the police who identified the thief. They then bollocked my boss for getting involved and doing their job for them, a job which they weren't doing themselves!! It went to court and they put an order on the the scrote who stole our diesel of £1,500 to be paid over 2 years, we got nothing back and he walked away to rob another day. Drivers still write the pin number on the back of the card however many times you ask them not to.steperife10 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 10:18 amyes I have submitted all that but they just don’t care. Once someone has cloned the card and has the PIN number the debt lies with you. Even with video footage once a pin is used all fuel companies have no liability. No protection for the genuine card holder. I will never be using cards again.
Be warned I’m clearly not the only Haulage company for it to happen to.
The police have said they don’t have ten resources to pursue it so case is closed in their eyes.
Don’t know what else I can do as legal advice say it could be a costly exercise to peruse with very little outcome possibly at the end.
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Theft is theft report to police they will get cctv from filling stations
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
I agree. The police response was they don’t have the resources so won’t be taking the case any further.Ianbertax30 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 10:22 am Theft is theft report to police they will get cctv from filling stations
It’s not even worth reporting half the time as nothing ever happens.
We had diesel stolen years ago from a truck and the thief cut their hand badly on the tank, blood everywhere. Police came and looked and said it could be anyone's blood and not just the thief so left without even taking a sample for dna!!!!
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Just use garages where you put card in machine pin in card out no one sees your pin and only u touch the card if a garage asks for card before you fill up go somewhere else
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Happened to us at an unmanned sitepetthandi8 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 10:28 am Just use garages where you put card in machine pin in card out no one sees your pin and only u touch the card if a garage asks for card before you fill up go somewhere else
Near our depot night man filled up 2 am and it was used again 5 am fortunately only A couple of hundred litres as in maxed out his daily usage
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
Back to cash it is then. If u cant trust plastic we need go back to hard cash
Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
The banks will always tell you there’s nothing you can do but go to the bank omnibus people or post on Jack busters for advice he won’t personally deal with it as it’s a little amount but he loves exposing things banks don’t tell you
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
I'm not having it the banks can just brush you off like that
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Re: Watch your fuel cards! I have had one card cloned and the PIN number compromised Some scumbag has stolen £3200 on my
It’s not a transaction with the bank so they don’t have to refund. It’s a transaction with the fuel card company. I have called the bank and seen a bank manager in person and they won’t do anything
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