Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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tomine
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Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10? Should of come out of main dealer with full kit and adequate stars but been majorly let down. Kit now fitted by them but they won't even give me a letter confirming for additional evidence.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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What type of vehicle is it?
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You can never change a star rating but you can get a cert stating you have added the additional kit to make it of a standard acceptable in the DVS area
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:41 pm You can never change a star rating but you can get a cert stating you have added the additional kit to make it of a standard acceptable in the DVS area
is that just through self cert on tfl or have you used the vtg10?
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:41 pm
Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:41 pm You can never change a star rating but you can get a cert stating you have added the additional kit to make it of a standard acceptable in the DVS area
is that just through self cert on tfl or have you used the vtg10?
tfl nothing to do with vtg10
tomine
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:42 pm
tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:41 pm
Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:41 pm You can never change a star rating but you can get a cert stating you have added the additional kit to make it of a standard acceptable in the DVS area
is that just through self cert on tfl or have you used the vtg10?
tfl nothing to do with vtg10
i would of said the same but main dealer told me I can change the star rating with a vtg10 now they have fit full kit.
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:42 pm
Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:42 pm
tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:41 pm

is that just through self cert on tfl or have you used the vtg10?
tfl nothing to do with vtg10
i would of said the same but main dealer told me I can change the star rating with a vtg10 now they have fit full kit.
what type of vehicle is it?
tomine
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:43 pm
tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:42 pm
Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:42 pm

tfl nothing to do with vtg10
i would of said the same but main dealer told me I can change the star rating with a vtg10 now they have fit full kit.
what type of vehicle is it?
It's a man tgx.
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:43 pm
Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:43 pm
tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:42 pm

i would of said the same but main dealer told me I can change the star rating with a vtg10 now they have fit full kit.
what type of vehicle is it?
It's a man tgx.
ok so does the reg come up on dvs star rating?
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:41 pm You can never change a star rating but you can get a cert stating you have added the additional kit to make it of a standard acceptable in the DVS area
Being out the game a while so can tell what DVS is and VTG10 thanks 👍
tomine
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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Ottone wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:45 pm
Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:41 pm You can never change a star rating but you can get a cert stating you have added the additional kit to make it of a standard acceptable in the DVS area
Being out the game a while so can tell what DVS is and VTG10 thanks 👍
DVS is direct vision scheme which i need for transport for London TFL. (Inside the m25)
VTG10 is a form to apply for a notifiable alteration, sometimes requires a test at an ATF approved facility.
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:45 pm
Ottone wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:45 pm
Arryza wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:41 pm You can never change a star rating but you can get a cert stating you have added the additional kit to make it of a standard acceptable in the DVS area
Being out the game a while so can tell what DVS is and VTG10 thanks 👍
DVS is direct vision scheme which i need for transport for London TFL. (Inside the m25)
VTG10 is a form to apply for a notifiable alteration, sometimes requires a test at an ATF approved facility.
thank you 👍
mionne
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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If it has all the relevant kit needed to be dvs compliant, just self certify the vehicle compliant. You won’t need any certs. Just complete the application.
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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mionne wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:46 pm If it has all the relevant kit needed to be dvs compliant, just self certify the vehicle compliant. You won’t need any certs. Just complete the application.
from what I gather on tfl that will only give it 0 star though and by 2024 it needs minimum standard of 2 stars?
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:47 pm
mionne wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:46 pm If it has all the relevant kit needed to be dvs compliant, just self certify the vehicle compliant. You won’t need any certs. Just complete the application.
from what I gather on tfl that will only give it 0 star though and by 2024 it needs minimum standard of 2 stars?
this is correct, having the dvs kit fitted from new won’t necessarily give the vehicle any stars?
We just registered a new DAF that came with the kit fitted. That was zero star rated.
I haven’t had a vehicle with any stars as yet.
Does your vehicle have any modifications other than the dvs kit?
Like the lower door window fitted for increased visibility?
tomine
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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mionne wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:47 pm
tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:47 pm
mionne wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:46 pm If it has all the relevant kit needed to be dvs compliant, just self certify the vehicle compliant. You won’t need any certs. Just complete the application.
from what I gather on tfl that will only give it 0 star though and by 2024 it needs minimum standard of 2 stars?
this is correct, having the dvs kit fitted from new won’t necessarily give the vehicle any stars?
We just registered a new DAF that came with the kit fitted. That was zero star rated.
I haven’t had a vehicle with any stars as yet.
Does your vehicle have any modifications other than the dvs kit?
Like the lower door window fitted for increased visibility?
thank you.
Operator was led to believe it should come with a higher rating than 0.
The lower door window is the next thing requiring fitting.
Have you had any experience of the vtg10 gaining you a higher star rating? The main dealer told me to go down that route.
I've only had one truck with a 2.
mionne
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:48 pm
mionne wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:47 pm
tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:47 pm

from what I gather on tfl that will only give it 0 star though and by 2024 it needs minimum standard of 2 stars?
this is correct, having the dvs kit fitted from new won’t necessarily give the vehicle any stars?
We just registered a new DAF that came with the kit fitted. That was zero star rated.
I haven’t had a vehicle with any stars as yet.
Does your vehicle have any modifications other than the dvs kit?
Like the lower door window fitted for increased visibility?
thank you.
Operator was led to believe it should come with a higher rating than 0.
The lower door window is the next thing requiring fitting.
Have you had any experience of the vtg10 gaining you a higher star rating? The main dealer told me to go down that route.
I've only had one truck with a 2.
I haven’t no, I do have a Volvo I need to register, the dvs kit on that was factory fitted. I will check the star rating on that compared with the DAF that was retro fitted prior to delivery. And let you know
tomine
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Re: Does anyone know if I can I apply for a better DVS star rating on a new unit through a VTG10?

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mionne wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:48 pm
tomine wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:48 pm
mionne wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:47 pm

this is correct, having the dvs kit fitted from new won’t necessarily give the vehicle any stars?
We just registered a new DAF that came with the kit fitted. That was zero star rated.
I haven’t had a vehicle with any stars as yet.
Does your vehicle have any modifications other than the dvs kit?
Like the lower door window fitted for increased visibility?
thank you.
Operator was led to believe it should come with a higher rating than 0.
The lower door window is the next thing requiring fitting.
Have you had any experience of the vtg10 gaining you a higher star rating? The main dealer told me to go down that route.
I've only had one truck with a 2.
I haven’t no, I do have a Volvo I need to register, the dvs kit on that was factory fitted. I will check the star rating on that compared with the DAF that was retro fitted prior to delivery. And let you know
thanks
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