I really don't understand some drivers, if you think you're underpaid or being treated badly, get a job somewhere
I really don't understand some drivers, if you think you're underpaid or being treated badly, get a job somewhere
I really don't understand some drivers, if you think you're underpaid or being treated badly, get a job somewhere else. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to drive a lorry, it's all your choice. I keep hearing the same old comment "you can get better money stacking shelves at Tesco". In that case, go and get a job at Tesco then.
You know what the pay and conditions are like in road haulage and yes they really do need to be improved but whinging and whining about it won't change a damned thing.
You know what the pay and conditions are like in road haulage and yes they really do need to be improved but whinging and whining about it won't change a damned thing.
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Didn't you know, if you whine at your instructor you instantly get fast tracked to class one, being a negative self-centered individual is 80% of the job jokes aside, yeah I hear you. I am sick of these type of people also.
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You actually can’t get better money stacking shelves at Tesco, be lucky if they even see £10 an hour………pretty sure no HGV driver is on less are they?
If they are then deffo get another job.
If they are then deffo get another job.
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not all transport are paying big money it's a myth from the newspapers
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I know class 1 drivers on just over a tenner an hour
They bump it up with all sorts of bonuses and shift premiums. But their basic is like 10.25 an hour
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still job's out there for less than 10ph and not much above. And yes I'm on about class 1
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saw an advert for Ramage the other day for £9 odd, it's not a rare as you think.
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plenty of jobs around her for £14+ an hour.
Personally I’m not hourly paid but get a basic salary of £38k a year, meant to be contracted to 44 hours a week for 4 on 4 off shifts. But I average about 39 a week, which I think is about £21 an hour.
So yes better jobs are out there.
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just saying still job's out there. Not everyone is on as good money as you. Personally I wouldn't go below 14phNathandy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:03 pmplenty of jobs around her for £14+ an hour.
Personally I’m not hourly paid but get a basic salary of £38k a year, meant to be contracted to 44 hours a week for 4 on 4 off shifts. But I average about 39 a week, which I think is about £21 an hour.
So yes better jobs are out there.
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my role is specialist, it’s car transporters so not general haulage money.Jasongi86 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:04 pmjust saying still job's out there. Not everyone is on as good money as you. Personally I wouldn't go below 14phNathandy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:03 pmplenty of jobs around her for £14+ an hour.
Personally I’m not hourly paid but get a basic salary of £38k a year, meant to be contracted to 44 hours a week for 4 on 4 off shifts. But I average about 39 a week, which I think is about £21 an hour.
So yes better jobs are out there.
I could probably land a job elsewhere on car transporters for 55k, but would mean tramping which I won’t do.
I also have to give up a lot of weekends for that money to, but 4 on 4 off shifts suits me for the salary on offer, so can’t complain.
But If I went back to general haulage I’d not look at anything less than £14 per hour.
There is actually plenty of places near me advertising that kind of money to, although I appreciate that wages do tend to be geographically influenced.
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might be time for a change in career, I think I could just about cope with the reduction in salaryJasongi86 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:04 pmjust saying still job's out there. Not everyone is on as good money as you. Personally I wouldn't go below 14phNathandy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:03 pmplenty of jobs around her for £14+ an hour.
Personally I’m not hourly paid but get a basic salary of £38k a year, meant to be contracted to 44 hours a week for 4 on 4 off shifts. But I average about 39 a week, which I think is about £21 an hour.
So yes better jobs are out there.
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if you divide your salary by even your average hours of 39 a week it’s actually 18.74 ( still pretty good but not as great as you like to think )Nathandy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:06 pmmight be time for a change in career, I think I could just about cope with the reduction in salaryJasongi86 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:04 pmjust saying still job's out there. Not everyone is on as good money as you. Personally I wouldn't go below 14phNathandy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:03 pm
plenty of jobs around her for £14+ an hour.
Personally I’m not hourly paid but get a basic salary of £38k a year, meant to be contracted to 44 hours a week for 4 on 4 off shifts. But I average about 39 a week, which I think is about £21 an hour.
So yes better jobs are out there.
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it’s not…
£38k a year
After holidays taken off that’s 155 shifts a year. (4 on 4 off, half the year, minus 28 days holiday)
£245.16 per day.
Divide that by 11 hours a day £22.28 (and in reality I probably do less hours than that).
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hahaha but you know you want to be the next bondNathandy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:07 pmit’s not…
£38k a year
After holidays taken off that’s 155 shifts a year. (4 on 4 off, half the year, minus 28 days holiday)
£245.16 per day.
Divide that by 11 hours a day £22.28 (and in reality I probably do less hours than that).
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if they up the salary then I’m up for itJasongi86 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:07 pmhahaha but you know you want to be the next bond
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tesco shelf stackers on nights are paid minimum 11 pound an hour but there pulling plug on night shelf stickers
Agency in North East offering 10.50 an hour dont be getting out of bed for that
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Nathandy here mate
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going for my hgv license at the moment. But currently earning £13 and hour stacking shelves overnight in a supermarket
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in all honesty I couldn’t cope with being cooped up in a building working stacking shelves, I’d go for HGV even it ended up being less money.
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that's preety much why I'm leaving. Been doing it long enough now and it's boring Be good to have a job I actually care aboutNathandy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:12 pmin all honesty I couldn’t cope with being cooped up in a building working stacking shelves, I’d go for HGV even it ended up being less money.
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Have to say this is the same in every job.
Had more than a few in my last job who would tell every new starter how bad the job was, how the company would work them to death, that the pay was crap, how everyone wanted to leave......and how they should listen to them as they'd been doing it for 15 years+.
They didn't want to try to improve the job or conditions.....just wanted to complain about it all day long.
Had more than a few in my last job who would tell every new starter how bad the job was, how the company would work them to death, that the pay was crap, how everyone wanted to leave......and how they should listen to them as they'd been doing it for 15 years+.
They didn't want to try to improve the job or conditions.....just wanted to complain about it all day long.
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Very trueDanields wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:14 pm Have to say this is the same in every job.
Had more than a few in my last job who would tell every new starter how bad the job was, how the company would work them to death, that the pay was crap, how everyone wanted to leave......and how they should listen to them as they'd been doing it for 15 years+.
They didn't want to try to improve the job or conditions.....just wanted to complain about it all day long.
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It won’t change as long as drivers like yourself are happy to be mugged off
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I work on the agency like I have the last twenty years, no nights out, decent rates that’s worth going into work for, if the rates are low I give it a miss
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Their are right some big companies abuse their drivers.. Fire and rehire on a lower rate.. Every driver on a different pay rate! They are competing with one another and the difference in the profit comes out of the drivers pocket!
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Should all go and blockade the m25 and every exit and hold London at siege
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Same as that. Just go inside the M25 and a big black cloud appears over me
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Only thing they done for us northern folks is drive us into poverty.
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Only been driving a year and I’m on a crappy 60k a year fffsss don’t know how I’m expected to survive on this wage
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Ah, yes. The old Might as well work in a Shop argument. I worked in retail for 15 years. Been in transport for 4 years and more than doubled my wage compared to retail. Anyone who uses this example needs to call their own bluff and actually do it! Most of you don't even know how the f**k corporate capitalism works - It ain't pretty! You think transports s*it? You poor soul.
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I totally agree. I went from High Street retail management to truck driving. Everything about my life is better now and I’m living my boyhood dream. Im not having to put up with the political corporate crap that was retail.Mickho wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:20 pm Ah, yes. The old Might as well work in a Shop argument. I worked in retail for 15 years. Been in transport for 4 years and more than doubled my wage compared to retail. Anyone who uses this example needs to call their own bluff and actually do it! Most of you don't even know how the f**k corporate capitalism works - It ain't pretty! You think transports s*it? You poor soul.
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I was middle management in food retail. Every decision you make is the wrong decision in the eyes of the superiority. Constantly, corrected, belittled, patronised and spoken down to despite working your ar*e off! You get the same attitude off the customers and lazy workers.Louiser wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:21 pmI totally agree. I went from High Street retail management to truck driving. Everything about my life is better now and I’m living my boyhood dream. Im not having to put up with the political corporate crap that was retail.Mickho wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:20 pm Ah, yes. The old Might as well work in a Shop argument. I worked in retail for 15 years. Been in transport for 4 years and more than doubled my wage compared to retail. Anyone who uses this example needs to call their own bluff and actually do it! Most of you don't even know how the f**k corporate capitalism works - It ain't pretty! You think transports s*it? You poor soul.
Now I drive class 1 on general haulage 4 on 4 off. I know what work I have for the week and I'm left alone to get on with it. Can't get a easier job than this.
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AgreedMickho wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:21 pmI was middle management in food retail. Every decision you make is the wrong decision in the eyes of the superiority. Constantly, corrected, belittled, patronised and spoken down to despite working your ar*e off! You get the same attitude off the customers and lazy workers.Louiser wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:21 pmI totally agree. I went from High Street retail management to truck driving. Everything about my life is better now and I’m living my boyhood dream. Im not having to put up with the political corporate crap that was retail.Mickho wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:20 pm Ah, yes. The old Might as well work in a Shop argument. I worked in retail for 15 years. Been in transport for 4 years and more than doubled my wage compared to retail. Anyone who uses this example needs to call their own bluff and actually do it! Most of you don't even know how the f**k corporate capitalism works - It ain't pretty! You think transports s*it? You poor soul.
Now I drive class 1 on general haulage 4 on 4 off. I know what work I have for the week and I'm left alone to get on with it. Can't get a easier job than this.
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I'm a new pass and to be honest the job isn't bad. Money isn't bad either. I'm just happy to be out working and enjoying it. Surely it's what we make it. I understand some folk will never be happy with the job. So why do something that makes you unhappy.
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My boss always says this too. There are no locks on the door you aren’t forced to be were you don’t want to be if your not happy and we can’t help then it’s your choice.
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Unpopular opinion. I like my job. If I didn't I'd walk.
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You’re right , I drive coz it’s what I know & do well. If I hated it that much I’d bugger off simples. Nights out r a bit tetchy coz of all the knob heads that think they’ve got the right to pinch your load / steal ya diesel & put u at risk coz they can’t keep their thieving fingers in their own pockets . I’d quite happily flatten them into tarmac to b honest
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Problem is up north wages are absolutely w4nk! Not worth getting outa bed. Defo can't find £12-14ph jobs cards in up here..even agencies charging little and that's temp work..
Defo not worth getting into the industry in this day and age. .
Years ago if you were a truck driver you'd be on good dollar. These days the wage has gone up by a pound or 2 in xx amount of years..? Ever increasing min wage soon to be over £9 this year ,it just ain't worth driving a wagon for £1 more than min wage.
Aldi Lidl are on 10.50+ l.
Machine site work £12+ depending on card and experience 8/9 hours a day.
Defo not worth getting into the industry in this day and age. .
Years ago if you were a truck driver you'd be on good dollar. These days the wage has gone up by a pound or 2 in xx amount of years..? Ever increasing min wage soon to be over £9 this year ,it just ain't worth driving a wagon for £1 more than min wage.
Aldi Lidl are on 10.50+ l.
Machine site work £12+ depending on card and experience 8/9 hours a day.
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driving hourly rate here in Norfolk is absolutely pants also mate, I used to work in retail for 9 years with tesco and hated it - left there thank goodness and got into driving - much better pay but different way of life...Moorect wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:26 pm Problem is up north wages are absolutely w4nk! Not worth getting outa bed. Defo can't find £12-14ph jobs cards in up here..even agencies charging little and that's temp work..
Defo not worth getting into the industry in this day and age. .
Years ago if you were a truck driver you'd be on good dollar. These days the wage has gone up by a pound or 2 in xx amount of years..? Ever increasing min wage soon to be over £9 this year ,it just ain't worth driving a wagon for £1 more than min wage.
Aldi Lidl are on 10.50+ l.
Machine site work £12+ depending on card and experience 8/9 hours a day.
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it is a different way of live being on road all day. Pay should be a min rate across the board for truck drivers. But cos there isn't, hence why loads are sacking it off.JamMiny wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:28 pmdriving hourly rate here in Norfolk is absolutely pants also mate, I used to work in retail for 9 years with tesco and hated it - left there thank goodness and got into driving - much better pay but different way of life...Moorect wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:26 pm Problem is up north wages are absolutely w4nk! Not worth getting outa bed. Defo can't find £12-14ph jobs cards in up here..even agencies charging little and that's temp work..
Defo not worth getting into the industry in this day and age. .
Years ago if you were a truck driver you'd be on good dollar. These days the wage has gone up by a pound or 2 in xx amount of years..? Ever increasing min wage soon to be over £9 this year ,it just ain't worth driving a wagon for £1 more than min wage.
Aldi Lidl are on 10.50+ l.
Machine site work £12+ depending on card and experience 8/9 hours a day.
Who wants to work 60+ hrs just to put bread an butter on table and a roof over ya head. You can earn more elsewhere. Mind boggles
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So why you’ve been whining
Paulette?
There are people who has been doing this job whole their lives, so saying “ grab a job somewhere else “ is not really solution or answer for that matter.
The way they’re treated, pay, stress level and work conditions are the very reasons why drivers shortage was announced in the first place. And it was only for the industry to be noticed and the issues rectified
Paulette?
There are people who has been doing this job whole their lives, so saying “ grab a job somewhere else “ is not really solution or answer for that matter.
The way they’re treated, pay, stress level and work conditions are the very reasons why drivers shortage was announced in the first place. And it was only for the industry to be noticed and the issues rectified
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it’s why 80k drivers have gone and got jobs els where mateAltarMc wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:29 pm So why you’ve been whining
Paulette?
There are people who has been doing this job whole their lives, so saying “ grab a job somewhere else “ is not really solution or answer for that matter.
The way they’re treated, pay, stress level and work conditions are the very reasons why drivers shortage was announced in the first place. And it was only for the industry to be noticed and the issues rectified
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But saying nothing will? Please explain.
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yes I agree, but seeing posts about defending the situation is as repetitive as the ones moanin
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I moan a lot lol. But I would never defend the situation. Cost of living is sky high and there genuinely is a problem with driver pay. And also driver facilities, but what can you do. Either keep on trucking and moaning lol or silently take it up the a@@.Jenarall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:31 pmyes I agree, but seeing posts about defending the situation is as repetitive as the ones moanin
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no body is defending the situation at all. There is no point coming on whining about your job cis don't have the power to change it. If you're gonna complain, do it in the right place.Harryat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:32 pmI moan a lot lol. But I would never defend the situation. Cost of living is sky high and there genuinely is a problem with driver pay. And also driver facilities, but what can you do. Either keep on trucking and moaning lol or silently take it up the a@@.
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if you go one step further, there ain't no point coming on at all.Paulette wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:33 pmno body is defending the situation at all. There is no point coming on whining about your job cis don't have the power to change it. If you're gonna complain, do it in the right place.
basically a place to brag or moan, nothing much else.
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A brickies wage and they're not even driving a HGV on the motorway.
Crazy times now.
There should be a min wage for hgv 2 and 1 drivers.
Crazy times now.
There should be a min wage for hgv 2 and 1 drivers.
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41k in st helens im on.......job has bad points but for that money so what
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Couldn’t agree more
If you like your job charge it
If you like your job charge it
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What other employment can you be fined 1/2 your annual salary for making 1 mistake when you actually have done nothing?
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£16 hour in Scarbados. 4/4 Off. In my own house every night. Plenty of overtime if you want it at £21hr. Could work 6/2 every week if wish. Plus our yard 5 mins from my house. I thought it was grim up north
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That's why we're 75,000 drivers short, don't tell any more to leave
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I enjoy it driving, I enjoy my job, get paid really well for the hours/role, has a few ups&downs like anywhere. It's only other arseholes on the road cause unnecessary stress but it's not enough for me leave the industry and would struggle to find the salary without having to retrain in another industry!
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Tbh I was really going to do my HGV as I paid for my medical that will last 5 years now. But I've got a cleaning job now that is rubbish pay but I'm going to do it on my own soon and make money that way. I'm already self-employed doing mobile hair. So many holiday let's wants a good cleaner in the summer months.
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I say to drivers moaning about the job , be careful what you wish for!, I was a class one driver for over twenty years I've now lost my licence because of health problems, I count myself lucky to have got a job in the transport office BUT really miss being out on the road despite the crap that sometimes goes with it.
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The HGV industry will NEVER BE improved, anyone on here that thinks OTHERWISE IS SERIOUSLY suffering from delusions of grandeur ffs...
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Our place is decent to work for, money is really really good, kit is clean, it’s safe. It’s like any other big firm, politics get on your tits quite a bit, but it’s stable and secure
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So of i hear you right .. your complaining about people complaining
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Well said mate my sentiments exactly!
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OK so reading your bit of waffle has me in stitches.
1, there aren’t that many jobs currently available out there due to the pandemic, albeit over now, but with so many job losses, every man Jack and his dog are going for what is available.
2, no one in the trade thinks they are being underpaid, those in in good jobs are happy and keep quite, the rest are in rubbish jobs being ripped off.
3, yes you can get a better paid job stacking shelves at Tescos, or even working at McDonald’s, however, as per point one, there are a lot of people going for these jobs
Finally,
4, if you really are that silly not to realize that the ONLY way change is made, is through people moaning and whinging about things in order to get them changed then you truly are an daft
1, there aren’t that many jobs currently available out there due to the pandemic, albeit over now, but with so many job losses, every man Jack and his dog are going for what is available.
2, no one in the trade thinks they are being underpaid, those in in good jobs are happy and keep quite, the rest are in rubbish jobs being ripped off.
3, yes you can get a better paid job stacking shelves at Tescos, or even working at McDonald’s, however, as per point one, there are a lot of people going for these jobs
Finally,
4, if you really are that silly not to realize that the ONLY way change is made, is through people moaning and whinging about things in order to get them changed then you truly are an daft
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You're a right one to call someone a waffler.Dillinexa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:47 pm OK so reading your bit of waffle has me in stitches.
1, there aren’t that many jobs currently available out there due to the pandemic, albeit over now, but with so many job losses, every man Jack and his dog are going for what is available.
2, no one in the trade thinks they are being underpaid, those in in good jobs are happy and keep quite, the rest are in rubbish jobs being ripped off.
3, yes you can get a better paid job stacking shelves at Tescos, or even working at McDonald’s, however, as per point one, there are a lot of people going for these jobs
Finally,
4, if you really are that silly not to realize that the ONLY way change is made, is through people moaning and whinging about things in order to get them changed then you truly are an daft
1. There aren't as many jobs about cos agency work dies out in January/February, so all those drivers will look for other jobs but it'll pick up again in March/April.
2. No one thinks they're underpaid???????? What planet have you been on?
3. No you can't. You might get a slightly higher rate but the chances are you won't get better than part time hours in majority of stores.
4. So going to your boss or dare I say it, a union won't do any good. You just have to bitch about it on FB and that'll get things done eh? Good luck with that.
Re: I really don't understand some drivers, if you think you're underpaid or being treated badly, get a job somewhere
I’m a relative new pass also. Having been a nurse, where the conditions are dire literally, pay is low considering you have to have a degree to be qualified and end up with a lot of debt to pay back…. Haulage is a dream in comparison! I’ve already had a 10k pay rise on top of what I was earning in the nhs, and I’m not on my feet for 12.5 hours plus or working over 7
Shifts in a row…. It all depends on what you’re used too….. I have seen many wingers…. It’s life, people will always moan about something, however the state of people’s driving ability on the roads is what I do find alarming…. Now that is relative! But sure, if you don’t like the heat get out of the kitchen…. Plain and simple, but many like to moan and see who they can enroll in their pity party…. Horses for courses….. it’s a job, I love driving, sure it has its downfalls (planners say no more) but I’m happy I made the switch…. There will always be charlatans out there who abuse their status, fat cat companies who pay very little…. Poorly maintained vehicles and so on…. Can’t please everyone…. Overall for a job where there is very little training, yes you have to get your licences, CPC, maintain your qualifications, you don’t require a degree, it is actually easy…. I’ve left over 100 compliance competencies behind and am now living my best life….
Shifts in a row…. It all depends on what you’re used too….. I have seen many wingers…. It’s life, people will always moan about something, however the state of people’s driving ability on the roads is what I do find alarming…. Now that is relative! But sure, if you don’t like the heat get out of the kitchen…. Plain and simple, but many like to moan and see who they can enroll in their pity party…. Horses for courses….. it’s a job, I love driving, sure it has its downfalls (planners say no more) but I’m happy I made the switch…. There will always be charlatans out there who abuse their status, fat cat companies who pay very little…. Poorly maintained vehicles and so on…. Can’t please everyone…. Overall for a job where there is very little training, yes you have to get your licences, CPC, maintain your qualifications, you don’t require a degree, it is actually easy…. I’ve left over 100 compliance competencies behind and am now living my best life….
Re: I really don't understand some drivers, if you think you're underpaid or being treated badly, get a job somewhere
my son and his partner are nurses, so know where you are coming from.Kristone wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:48 pm I’m a relative new pass also. Having been a nurse, where the conditions are dire literally, pay is low considering you have to have a degree to be qualified and end up with a lot of debt to pay back…. Haulage is a dream in comparison! I’ve already had a 10k pay rise on top of what I was earning in the nhs, and I’m not on my feet for 12.5 hours plus or working over 7
Shifts in a row…. It all depends on what you’re used too….. I have seen many wingers…. It’s life, people will always moan about something, however the state of people’s driving ability on the roads is what I do find alarming…. Now that is relative! But sure, if you don’t like the heat get out of the kitchen…. Plain and simple, but many like to moan and see who they can enroll in their pity party…. Horses for courses….. it’s a job, I love driving, sure it has its downfalls (planners say no more) but I’m happy I made the switch…. There will always be charlatans out there who abuse their status, fat cat companies who pay very little…. Poorly maintained vehicles and so on…. Can’t please everyone…. Overall for a job where there is very little training, yes you have to get your licences, CPC, maintain your qualifications, you don’t require a degree, it is actually easy…. I’ve left over 100 compliance competencies behind and am now living my best life….
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