Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho. I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge regarding the rules around driving and rest time etc.. However I never thought about making sure I get 9 hours off as it’s not something I generally need to worry about. This morning I put my card in with only 8 hours 54 minutes since I took it out. I realized before I started driving and did two printouts, explaining the mistake. There is well over 9 hours between when I finished driving last night, and with I started driving this morning, it’s the working time at the end of yesterday which is the problem. Obviously the tacho is going crazy today with going over 10 hours of driving and not having 9 hours off. Aside from the printouts, is there anything I need to do to cover myself? Silly mistake, lesson learned!
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Nope, youve already made the mistake. Just carry the printout for the next 28 days and hope you don't get stopped. Just ensure you ha e the correct rest period tonight and into the future
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do tacho errors etc. only last 28 days? Was told it was 6 monthsPatibulate wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:10 am Nope, youve already made the mistake. Just carry the printout for the next 28 days and hope you don't get stopped. Just ensure you ha e the correct rest period tonight and into the future
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roadside checks are 28 days. If they wanted to dig further I do believe it's 2 years worth of records. So I do believe so front what I've been toldNeophille wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:12 amdo tacho errors etc. only last 28 days? Was told it was 6 monthsPatibulate wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:10 am Nope, youve already made the mistake. Just carry the printout for the next 28 days and hope you don't get stopped. Just ensure you ha e the correct rest period tonight and into the future
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Good to know mate taPatibulate wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:12 amroadside checks are 28 days. If they wanted to dig further I do believe it's 2 years worth of records. So I do believe so front what I've been toldNeophille wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:12 amdo tacho errors etc. only last 28 days? Was told it was 6 monthsPatibulate wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:10 am Nope, youve already made the mistake. Just carry the printout for the next 28 days and hope you don't get stopped. Just ensure you ha e the correct rest period tonight and into the future
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the control card carried by police and dvsa can look at 365 days in the vuPatibulate wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:10 am Nope, youve already made the mistake. Just carry the printout for the next 28 days and hope you don't get stopped. Just ensure you ha e the correct rest period tonight and into the future
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This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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what happens if your taco switches to other work if you touch your keys ? Not all tacos are set to break as fault setting, not everyone remembers to check taco every time they move their keysPoo_Lobola wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:14 am This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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shouldn't change unless you move vehicle, I leave my card in all week and often start engine to keep batteries charged, tacho never changes mode.miggiSocle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:15 amwhat happens if your taco switches to other work if you touch your keys ? Not all tacos are set to break as fault setting, not everyone remembers to check taco every time they move their keysPoo_Lobola wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:14 am This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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if the taco is set up right it should default to other work, not break.PiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:17 amshouldn't change unless you move vehicle, I leave my card in all week and often start engine to keep batteries charged, tacho never changes mode.miggiSocle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:15 amwhat happens if your taco switches to other work if you touch your keys ? Not all tacos are set to break as fault setting, not everyone remembers to check taco every time they move their keysPoo_Lobola wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:14 am This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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Can have it set to either, I prefer it to default to break when vehicle comes to halt and engine switched off.miggiSocle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:18 amif the taco is set up right it should default to other work, not break.PiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:17 amshouldn't change unless you move vehicle, I leave my card in all week and often start engine to keep batteries charged, tacho never changes mode.miggiSocle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:15 am
what happens if your taco switches to other work if you touch your keys ? Not all tacos are set to break as fault setting, not everyone remembers to check taco every time they move their keys
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They do on the Mercedes I drive, some default to other work when you switch off, some default to break, and some have a mind of their own if you touch the tacho buttonsPiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:18 amCan have it set to either, I prefer it to default to break when vehicle comes to halt and engine switched off.miggiSocle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:18 amif the taco is set up right it should default to other work, not break.PiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:17 am
shouldn't change unless you move vehicle, I leave my card in all week and often start engine to keep batteries charged, tacho never changes mode.
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not sure about latest generation of tachographs, but all I have owned are reprogrammable to set default to either break or other work.dearticulate wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:19 amThey do on the Mercedes I drive, some default to other work when you switch off, some default to break, and some have a mind of their own if you touch the tacho buttonsPiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:18 amCan have it set to either, I prefer it to default to break when vehicle comes to halt and engine switched off.miggiSocle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:18 am
if the taco is set up right it should default to other work, not break.
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once you put it on break you can touch the keys all you want it won’t change unless you move the vehiclemiggiSocle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:15 amwhat happens if your taco switches to other work if you touch your keys ? Not all tacos are set to break as fault setting, not everyone remembers to check taco every time they move their keysPoo_Lobola wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:14 am This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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I drive a different unit most nights, and they are set different, I was in 3 different ones last night during my shift and 2 defaulted as other work and the other one as break.PiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:20 amnot sure about latest generation of tachographs, but all I have owned are reprogrammable to set default to either break or other work.dearticulate wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:19 amThey do on the Mercedes I drive, some default to other work when you switch off, some default to break, and some have a mind of their own if you touch the tacho buttonsPiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:18 am
Can have it set to either, I prefer it to default to break when vehicle comes to halt and engine switched off.
I had one (which I’m convinced was faulty) that changed from break to other work as soon as I turned the ignition on to start up and build up air
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No obligatory in UK to record test on digi card, but certainly is in Europe, it is so much easier to leave card on all week if sleeping in truck, saves having to do a manual entry each morning, and a quick glance at tacho will show when you can start next shift, I only ever remove card if I'm away from truck.Poo_Lobola wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:14 am This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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but you still need to input start and end countryPiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:23 amNo obligatory in UK to record test on digi card, but certainly is in Europe, it is so much easier to leave card on all week if sleeping in truck, saves having to do a manual entry each morning, and a quick glance at tacho will show when you can start next shift, I only ever remove card if I'm away from truck.Poo_Lobola wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:14 am This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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you are legally required to record ALL activities on your card. The regulations changed in August 2020 and were implemented in August 2022.PiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:23 amNo obligatory in UK to record test on digi card, but certainly is in Europe, it is so much easier to leave card on all week if sleeping in truck, saves having to do a manual entry each morning, and a quick glance at tacho will show when you can start next shift, I only ever remove card if I'm away from truck.Poo_Lobola wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:14 am This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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correcttomography wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:25 amyou are legally required to record ALL activities on your card. The regulations changed in August 2020 and were implemented in August 2022.PiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:23 amNo obligatory in UK to record test on digi card, but certainly is in Europe, it is so much easier to leave card on all week if sleeping in truck, saves having to do a manual entry each morning, and a quick glance at tacho will show when you can start next shift, I only ever remove card if I'm away from truck.Poo_Lobola wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:14 am This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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sorry that is incorrectPiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:23 amNo obligatory in UK to record test on digi card, but certainly is in Europe, it is so much easier to leave card on all week if sleeping in truck, saves having to do a manual entry each morning, and a quick glance at tacho will show when you can start next shift, I only ever remove card if I'm away from truck.Poo_Lobola wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:14 am This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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what is incorrect?geonewc99 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:26 amsorry that is incorrectPiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:23 amNo obligatory in UK to record test on digi card, but certainly is in Europe, it is so much easier to leave card on all week if sleeping in truck, saves having to do a manual entry each morning, and a quick glance at tacho will show when you can start next shift, I only ever remove card if I'm away from truck.Poo_Lobola wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:14 am This is the reason I don't take my card out when on a night out
I even asked dvsa for advice
About leaving in and was told there is no rules but they prefer to see them left in
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you must record your restPiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:26 amwhat is incorrect?geonewc99 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:26 amsorry that is incorrectPiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:23 am
No obligatory in UK to record test on digi card, but certainly is in Europe, it is so much easier to leave card on all week if sleeping in truck, saves having to do a manual entry each morning, and a quick glance at tacho will show when you can start next shift, I only ever remove card if I'm away from truck.
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and in the uk matePiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:27 amIn Europe yes.
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was the case back when paper charts were used, the French would fine you for not recording overnight rest on card.
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you have to account for your entire week on your digi card. Manual entries must be done for all periods of rest and other work where the card is not inserted in the head.PiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:28 amwas the case back when paper charts were used, the French would fine you for not recording overnight rest on card.
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failure to record them mate is a level 4 offence. £300 for every missing entry. I’ve sent you a linkPiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:28 amwas the case back when paper charts were used, the French would fine you for not recording overnight rest on card.
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Exactly, so as I previously said, much simpler to leave card in all week if you are tramping.geonewc99 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:29 amfailure to record them mate is a level 4 offence. £300 for every missing entry. I’ve sent you a linkPiggyroEloign wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:28 amwas the case back when paper charts were used, the French would fine you for not recording overnight rest on card.
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Was told company prefer it
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if you take your card out you must then do a manual entry when you insert it. Did your company explain that to you?chondroid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:33 amWas told company prefer it
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easier to do a Manual entry than end the shift and start the shift with the card still intomography wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:34 amif you take your card out you must then do a manual entry when you insert it. Did your company explain that to you?
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no, because just put on h break for 9 or 11 hours and then cross hammers when you start your shiftArbuscle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:34 ameasier to do a Manual entry than end the shift and start the shift with the card still intomography wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:34 amif you take your card out you must then do a manual entry when you insert it. Did your company explain that to you?
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you must end your shift everyday its a legal requirementBoondocks wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:36 amno, because just put on h break for 9 or 11 hours and then cross hammers when you start your shiftArbuscle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:34 ameasier to do a Manual entry than end the shift and start the shift with the card still intomography wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:34 am
if you take your card out you must then do a manual entry when you insert it. Did your company explain that to you?
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hou ... raph-rules
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a break of 9 or 11 hours shows you have had a Daily rest. I get checked by British haulage association every week and have never been pulled up on it
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read what I have posted on the screenshot and if you still don’t believe me check the link
You Must end your shift everyday
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it’s all there in black and white from the gov website in a publication from dvsa I could go on to provide more links but that would mean a lot more reading for you
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dvsa don’t care if you leave the card in or take it out overnight it makes no difference. On the rare occasions I do nights out I always pull the card that way I know I’ve not left it on other work and It takes the same time inserting and doing manual entry as it does ending and starting the shift
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nice one. So you don't actually do nights out then?Arbuscle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:41 amdvsa don’t care if you leave the card in or take it out overnight it makes no difference. On the rare occasions I do nights out I always pull the card that way I know I’ve not left it on other work and It takes the same time inserting and doing manual entry as it does ending and starting the shift
I leave Monday morning and don't arrive back to the yard till Friday or Saturday.
If you are doing shift work, take a photo of when you clocked out so you can remember
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I do night out done probably 10 in the last few months I also got stopped by dvsa for a adr check and all goodBoondocks wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:42 amnice one. So you don't actually do nights out then?Arbuscle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:41 amdvsa don’t care if you leave the card in or take it out overnight it makes no difference. On the rare occasions I do nights out I always pull the card that way I know I’ve not left it on other work and It takes the same time inserting and doing manual entry as it does ending and starting the shift
I leave Monday morning and don't arrive back to the yard till Friday or Saturday.
If you are doing shift work, take a photo of when you clocked out so you can remember
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ideal.Arbuscle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:42 amI do night out done probably 10 in the last few months I also got stopped by dvsa for a adr check and all goodBoondocks wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:42 amnice one. So you don't actually do nights out then?Arbuscle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:41 am
dvsa don’t care if you leave the card in or take it out overnight it makes no difference. On the rare occasions I do nights out I always pull the card that way I know I’ve not left it on other work and It takes the same time inserting and doing manual entry as it does ending and starting the shift
I leave Monday morning and don't arrive back to the yard till Friday or Saturday.
If you are doing shift work, take a photo of when you clocked out so you can remember
Safe travels bud and if see each other on the road, give a flash
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if you begin and end in the same country you don’t have to do that, Jesus wept.Arbuscle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:42 amI do night out done probably 10 in the last few months I also got stopped by dvsa for a adr check and all goodBoondocks wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:42 amnice one. So you don't actually do nights out then?Arbuscle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:41 am
dvsa don’t care if you leave the card in or take it out overnight it makes no difference. On the rare occasions I do nights out I always pull the card that way I know I’ve not left it on other work and It takes the same time inserting and doing manual entry as it does ending and starting the shift
I leave Monday morning and don't arrive back to the yard till Friday or Saturday.
If you are doing shift work, take a photo of when you clocked out so you can remember
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you still have to do it regardless of starting and ending in the same country
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maybe about time you got yourself upto date with the regulations.
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yes you do. You still need to record your Daily Rest either by manual entry or by leaving your card in.
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if you leave your card in and haven’t changed country, you don’t have to end countrytomography wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:50 amyes you do. You still need to record your Daily Rest either by manual entry or by leaving your card in.
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are correct (as per article 34, para 7 of EC 165/2014)phoenix20 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:50 amif you leave your card in and haven’t changed country, you don’t have to end countrytomography wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:50 amyes you do. You still need to record your Daily Rest either by manual entry or by leaving your card in.
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the card stays in the head, unless I’m on holiday or the lorry is in the garage. I record change of country when I change country never had an issue with any enforcement agency over itVarsovienne wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:51 amare correct (as per article 34, para 7 of EC 165/2014)phoenix20 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:50 amif you leave your card in and haven’t changed country, you don’t have to end countrytomography wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:50 am
yes you do. You still need to record your Daily Rest either by manual entry or by leaving your card in.
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the tacho head stores the country you’ve last set it to, unless there is a change or you are taking the card out/ putting it in there’s no need to touch it as it’s already recordedVarsovienne wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:51 amare correct (as per article 34, para 7 of EC 165/2014)phoenix20 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:50 amif you leave your card in and haven’t changed country, you don’t have to end countrytomography wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:50 am
yes you do. You still need to record your Daily Rest either by manual entry or by leaving your card in.
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165/2014 clearly states "the driver shall enter......"phoenix20 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:52 amthe tacho head stores the country you’ve last set it to, unless there is a change or you are taking the card out/ putting it in there’s no need to touch it as it’s already recorded
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the pluralization of the word country (it clearly states countries) implies it’s only necessary where multiple countries are involvedVarsovienne wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:52 am165/2014 clearly states "the driver shall enter......"
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Do you agree that a driver must enter the start and finish country in the centre field of an analogue chart (even if they start and finish in the same country?)phoenix20 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:03 amthe pluralization of the word country (it clearly states countries) implies it’s only necessary where multiple countries are involved
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that holes getting deeper.phoenix20 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:03 amthe pluralization of the word country (it clearly states countries) implies it’s only necessary where multiple countries are involved
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Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
looks like he’s admitted defeat and gone quietVarsovienne wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:03 amDo you agree that a driver must enter the start and finish country in the centre field of an analogue chart (even if they start and finish in the same country?)
Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
just for a bit of clarification cos I’m not sure people are understanding your information.
A manual entry is required for any part of the week where digital recording is not available.
When the card is not in the vu then a manual entry must be made for all aspects of work, break, daily and weekly rest. No excuses or exceptions. Failure to do so is a level 4 offence and a fixed penalty of £300. You can be done a maximum of 5 times in one go. Anything more and it’s a court summons.
Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
not sure your understanding tbhgeonewc99 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:11 amjust for a bit of clarification cos I’m not sure people are understanding your information.
A manual entry is required for any part of the week where digital recording is not available.
When the card is not in the vu then a manual entry must be made for all aspects of work, break, daily and weekly rest. No excuses or exceptions. Failure to do so is a level 4 offence and a fixed penalty of £300. You can be done a maximum of 5 times in one go. Anything more and it’s a court summons.
My comment was regarding leaving the card in overnight you still need to end your shift with the country and restart your shift the following day by making an entry on the tacho
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Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
I have sent you a pm regarding a duty time question, hope you don't mind.Varsovienne wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:52 am165/2014 clearly states "the driver shall enter......"
Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
yeah RHAArbuscle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:12 amnot sure your understanding tbhgeonewc99 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:11 amjust for a bit of clarification cos I’m not sure people are understanding your information.
A manual entry is required for any part of the week where digital recording is not available.
When the card is not in the vu then a manual entry must be made for all aspects of work, break, daily and weekly rest. No excuses or exceptions. Failure to do so is a level 4 offence and a fixed penalty of £300. You can be done a maximum of 5 times in one go. Anything more and it’s a court summons.
My comment was regarding leaving the card in overnight you still need to end your shift with the country and restart your shift the following day by making an entry on the tacho
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Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
It'll do your head in all day, and not be so easy to keep track of your driving today now, so make sure you don't go over anything else today!
You did right with print outs, after your next daily rest tacho display will be fine. Happens quite regular when doing ferry movements and split breaks, it's just a pain the next day as tacho display makes you feel like a cowboy! and more to point doesn't show driving/break time on display properly.
You did right with print outs, after your next daily rest tacho display will be fine. Happens quite regular when doing ferry movements and split breaks, it's just a pain the next day as tacho display makes you feel like a cowboy! and more to point doesn't show driving/break time on display properly.
Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
You can do a vehicle print out without putting in your card this will tell you when you finished that’s what I do if I forget etc.
Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
I leave mine in if night out that why I don't need to do manual entry. Do you keep a diary? If or when I balls it up I do the 2 print outs message the transport manager and write a note in diary or on my phones calendar. I was stopped last year, they found I'd moved during a break, in fact I'd left my card in when I was working nights and the next driver moved it. The note in my diary was enough and dvsa lady said that was good enough.
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Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
Leave your card in and log off duty.
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Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
Do a manual entry and correct it.
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Re: Only my second night out last night and I made a mistake with the tacho I have a reasonably good amount of knowledge
no it won't. You cannot change anything on your card once it is recorded.
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