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I’m pretty clued up on tacho rules but keep hearing various opinions on reduced weekly rest. My opinion is a reduced weekly rest must be followed by a 45 and the the owed hours paid back by end of 3rd week. Today I was told. No. You can do 2 reduced weekend rests back to back and pay it all back on 3rd week rest, Am I wrong???
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I was also led to believe 2 reduced and pay back on 3rd week 🤷‍♂️
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natteer11 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:47 am I was also led to believe 2 reduced and pay back on 3rd week 🤷‍♂️
only if your abroad and your first 24 away from base in the eu
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natteer11 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:47 am I was also led to believe 2 reduced and pay back on 3rd week 🤷‍♂️
that was the old rule
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I understand you must have a 45 every other week. We're only allowed to do overtime every other week due to this. Then some weeks week get a reduced weekly, so can't do overtime either side of that.
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YouNotice wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:51 am I understand you must have a 45 every other week. We're only allowed to do overtime every other week due to this. Then some weeks week get a reduced weekly, so can't do overtime either side of that.
45 every week and you can do 6 days every week
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delMaster wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:54 am
YouNotice wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:51 am I understand you must have a 45 every other week. We're only allowed to do overtime every other week due to this. Then some weeks week get a reduced weekly, so can't do overtime either side of that.
45 every week and you can do 6 days every week
you can, if that's how your shifts work. Ours are 0400-1330 every day. Some weeks are already split rest, ie mon/sun off.
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Can do it as long as it is paid back by midnight on 3rd weekend
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Yes you can do two but as you say it must be all paid back on the 3rd week
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LosMorose wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:56 am Yes you can do two but as you say it must be all paid back on the 3rd week
whilst it's possible under a certain set of circumstances, it's wrong to just say yes you can
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You can do 2 consecutive weekly reduced rest in a block of 4 weeks where the other 2 weekly rest are normal + payback just if you do international trips.
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In certain circumstances yes you can do two on the bounce but it's quite complicated as I recall. Do it your way and you'll never fall foul of the law. 🤷
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ClaKing wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:58 am In certain circumstances yes you can do two on the bounce but it's quite complicated as I recall. Do it your way and you'll never fall foul of the law. 🤷
good answer! I'm just trying to ascertain his exact start and finish times for the relevant (and previous) weeks in order to give him a definitive answer.
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You can reduce 2 weekly rests and the 3rd week must be a 45 but any reductions must be paid back by the 3rd following the reduction.
Most folks follow your usual and reduce then repay so you don't lose track 😁
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That is correct, used to work 2 Saturdays then off on the 3rd to repay owed hrs
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It does apply for international transport. EU mobility package allows for this. Not local work
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I'm all for work five days & have two off cause there is more to life than being at work
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BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:02 am I'm all for work five days & have two off cause there is more to life than being at work
4 days on 3 days off is the life. 😅
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NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:04 am
BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:02 am I'm all for work five days & have two off cause there is more to life than being at work
4 days on 3 days off is the life. 😅
there ya go mate it's all about that work home balance
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BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:04 am
NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:04 am
BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:02 am I'm all for work five days & have two off cause there is more to life than being at work
4 days on 3 days off is the life. 😅
there ya go mate it's all about that work home balance
I couldnt do 5 and 6 days i dont no how drivers do it. By day 4 im waiting to break free 🤣
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NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am
BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:04 am
NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:04 am

4 days on 3 days off is the life. 😅
there ya go mate it's all about that work home balance
I couldnt do 5 and 6 days i dont no how drivers do it. By day 4 im waiting to break free 🤣
I dunno 5on 3off ain't a bad shift if ya don't mind loosing weekends
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BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am
NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am
BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:04 am

there ya go mate it's all about that work home balance
I couldnt do 5 and 6 days i dont no how drivers do it. By day 4 im waiting to break free 🤣
I dunno 5on 3off ain't a bad shift if ya don't mind loosing weekends
True i do Fri to Mon so loose every weekend but isn't fussed
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NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am
BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am
NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am

I couldnt do 5 and 6 days i dont no how drivers do it. By day 4 im waiting to break free 🤣
I dunno 5on 3off ain't a bad shift if ya don't mind loosing weekends
True i do Fri to Mon so loose every weekend but isn't fussed
no 4 on 4 off is better👍👍👍
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NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am
BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am
NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am

I couldnt do 5 and 6 days i dont no how drivers do it. By day 4 im waiting to break free 🤣
I dunno 5on 3off ain't a bad shift if ya don't mind loosing weekends
True i do Fri to Mon so loose every weekend but isn't fussed
bunch of Fanny’s… Only been doing the job a couple years and already moaning about the working week…
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hirViking wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:07 am
NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am
BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am

I dunno 5on 3off ain't a bad shift if ya don't mind loosing weekends
True i do Fri to Mon so loose every weekend but isn't fussed
bunch of Fanny’s… Only been doing the job a couple years and already moaning about the working week…
Where did you spring from? Hope you enjoying driving "Dennis" 🤣🤣
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NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:08 am
hirViking wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:07 am
NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am

True i do Fri to Mon so loose every weekend but isn't fussed
bunch of Fanny’s… Only been doing the job a couple years and already moaning about the working week…
Where did you spring from? Hope you enjoying driving "Dennis" 🤣🤣
refuse to mate. Dirty bastard makes you look clean 🤠
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NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:08 am
hirViking wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:07 am
NowMuch wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:05 am

True i do Fri to Mon so loose every weekend but isn't fussed
bunch of Fanny’s… Only been doing the job a couple years and already moaning about the working week…
Where did you spring from? Hope you enjoying driving "Dennis" 🤣🤣
nah 4/4 is the best life 😂😂
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BeaCrayon wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:02 am I'm all for work five days & have two off cause there is more to life than being at work
absolutely!
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QueBunny wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:10 am Intriguing reading 😆
some great guesswork lol
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jotchequ63 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:11 am
QueBunny wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:10 am Intriguing reading 😆
some great guesswork lol
it is, and I don't have time to answer them all!
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You are not wrong, you cannot do 2 consecutive reduced weekends
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BarZero wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:12 am You are not wrong, you cannot do 2 consecutive reduced weekends
it can be a little more complicated than that. It entails looking backwards as well as forwards.
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kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:12 am
BarZero wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:12 am You are not wrong, you cannot do 2 consecutive reduced weekends
it can be a little more complicated than that. It entails looking backwards as well as forwards.
totally agree, and if you are working in the EU rather than this tiny little Island.
Considering the amount of questions we get on here about absolute basics, I will happily change my post to be “as a general rule of thumb” there are exceptions but if you stick with a minimum 45 after a reduced weekend break, remembering you have to pay back this hours, you are unlikely to go far wrong.
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Please clarify that this is UK work?
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kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:13 am Please clarify that this is UK work?
yes mate
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FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:13 am
kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:13 am Please clarify that this is UK work?
yes mate
I'd need the start and finish times of your weekly rests (and at least a couple of previous ones) to give you a definitive answer.
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kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am
FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:13 am
kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:13 am Please clarify that this is UK work?
yes mate
I'd need the start and finish times of your weekly rests (and at least a couple of previous ones) to give you a definitive answer.
Just had 2 full weeks off on holiday. On return. Worked mon to sat 5pm. Started 8 am this morning 39 off this weekend.
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FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am
kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am
FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:13 am

yes mate
I'd need the start and finish times of your weekly rests (and at least a couple of previous ones) to give you a definitive answer.
Just had 2 full weeks off on holiday. On return. Worked mon to sat 5pm. Started 8 am this morning 39 off this weekend.
therein lies the answer 🙂
Your holiday followed by the 8am start will mean that both last week and this week already have a regular weekly rest attached to them, regardless of how long a rest you take at the end of this week.
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kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am
FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am
kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am

I'd need the start and finish times of your weekly rests (and at least a couple of previous ones) to give you a definitive answer.
Just had 2 full weeks off on holiday. On return. Worked mon to sat 5pm. Started 8 am this morning 39 off this weekend.
therein lies the answer 🙂
Your holiday followed by the 8am start will mean that both last week and this week already have a regular weekly rest attached to them, regardless of how long a rest you take at the end of this week.
I sort of get it. But if I reduce again this week let’s say finish sat dinner 1 pm. And start Monday 6am. What happens the weekend after ??
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FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:17 am
kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am
FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am

Just had 2 full weeks off on holiday. On return. Worked mon to sat 5pm. Started 8 am this morning 39 off this weekend.
therein lies the answer 🙂
Your holiday followed by the 8am start will mean that both last week and this week already have a regular weekly rest attached to them, regardless of how long a rest you take at the end of this week.
I sort of get it. But if I reduce again this week let’s say finish sat dinner 1 pm. And start Monday 6am. What happens the weekend after ??
You aren't reducing this week as you've carried a full 45hr rest over from the holidays. The min. 24hr rest this week is simply to re-set your 6x24hr working week, giving you another 6x24hr working periods. So you've already had 45 this fixed week, allowing 24 next fixed week and then another 45 the following fixed week.
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FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:17 am
kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am
FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am

Just had 2 full weeks off on holiday. On return. Worked mon to sat 5pm. Started 8 am this morning 39 off this weekend.
therein lies the answer 🙂
Your holiday followed by the 8am start will mean that both last week and this week already have a regular weekly rest attached to them, regardless of how long a rest you take at the end of this week.
I sort of get it. But if I reduce again this week let’s say finish sat dinner 1 pm. And start Monday 6am. What happens the weekend after ??
warVAsh, has explained correctly.
Does that make sense now?
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kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:18 am
FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:17 am
kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:14 am

therein lies the answer 🙂
Your holiday followed by the 8am start will mean that both last week and this week already have a regular weekly rest attached to them, regardless of how long a rest you take at the end of this week.
I sort of get it. But if I reduce again this week let’s say finish sat dinner 1 pm. And start Monday 6am. What happens the weekend after ??
warVAsh, has explained correctly.
Does that make sense now?
on that note. If I was to work for 3 weeks and then have a Thursday to Monday morning off, does it mean that from the start of that week within a 3 weeks period I can have 2 reduced rest? 24h-45h-24h-4 days off?
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SimElement wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:19 am
kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:18 am
FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:17 am

I sort of get it. But if I reduce again this week let’s say finish sat dinner 1 pm. And start Monday 6am. What happens the weekend after ??
warVAsh, has explained correctly.
Does that make sense now?
on that note. If I was to work for 3 weeks and then have a Thursday to Monday morning off, does it mean that from the start of that week within a 3 weeks period I can have 2 reduced rest? 24h-45h-24h-4 days off?
assuming that you will have taken at least 90 hours off between finishing on Thursday and starting on Monday, you will have satisfied the requirement and already have regular weekly rests in both weeks.
If we call the Monday start "week 1', when would you be finishing that week and starting the next?
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kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:19 am
SimElement wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:19 am
kelKendo wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:18 am

warVAsh, has explained correctly.
Does that make sense now?
on that note. If I was to work for 3 weeks and then have a Thursday to Monday morning off, does it mean that from the start of that week within a 3 weeks period I can have 2 reduced rest? 24h-45h-24h-4 days off?
assuming that you will have taken at least 90 hours off between finishing on Thursday and starting on Monday, you will have satisfied the requirement and already have regular weekly rests in both weeks.
If we call the Monday start "week 1', when would you be finishing that week and starting the next?
you have answered the question. I can’t answer your question as I have not been in the situation yet.
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45 off every weekend and do 6 days every week I believe
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It's not your weekly rests that you can reduce every other, it's any 2 consecutive fixed weeks must have either 1 full and 1 reduced weekly rest or 2 full weekly rests.
Have a weeks holiday, start back 0600 Mon, the week off would count as back to back full weekly rests (45 hours + 45 = 90). because a full weekly rest crossing Sunday midnight, it can count in either, but not both unless it's a back to back weekly rest, minimum of 69 hours (45+24).
So because it's a back to back full weekly, then the 0000 - 0600 basically counts as a full weekly rest for the coming week.
Reduce at the end.
Reduce at the end of the next week
Full at the end of the next
So you reduced, reduced, full
But the fixed weeks were full, reduced, full
If the 1st reduced crosses Sunday midnight, then both reduced are in the same fixed weeks, you would just compensate the 1 that needed the least amount of compensation.
If it was all before midnight Sunday then you just wouldn't need to compensate that one
It works by moving the rest that counts from the beginning to the end of the week. It only works if your weekly rests cross Sunday midnight, so therefore can be counted in either, but not both. So this can't be repeated until you have a back to back weekly rests that crosses Sunday midnight to reset it so the rest that counts is at the beginning again
You could carry the potential to do 2 on the bounce forward indefinitely so long as your weekly rest crosses Sunday midnight
Or 2 or more in the same fixed week
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In any 2 consecutive fixed weeks, you must have either 2 regular weekly rests or 1 regular weekly rest and 1 reduced
A fixed week is 0000 Mon - 2400 sun
A weekly rest that is in 2 fixed weeks (crosses Sunday midnight) can be counted in either, but not both, unless it's 69 or more hours long, that's then a back to back weekly rest 45 + 24 or the other way about, or 90 or more for back to back regular weekly rests.
From the end of one weekly rest you have a max of 144 hours (6x24) before you need to start the next weekly rest - start 0600 Monday, you can work up till 0600 Sunday, no limit on the amount of shifts in that time
A weekly rest of at least 24 hours at any point, will reset the 144 and your 3x9 daily rest reductions, but you'll still need to make sure you're compliant with the minimum of 1 regular and 1 reduced in any 2 consecutive fixed weeks
A fixed week that is a reduced weekly rest will need the time you didn't have from 45 hours paying back by attaching it to any rest period of at least 9 hours and within the following 3 fixed weeks after the fixed week the reduction is in. If there's more than 1 reduced in a fixed week, only 1 will need to be compensated. So normally you'd just compensate the 1 that requires the least compensation.
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glyixeren60 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:24 am In any 2 consecutive fixed weeks, you must have either 2 regular weekly rests or 1 regular weekly rest and 1 reduced
A fixed week is 0000 Mon - 2400 sun
A weekly rest that is in 2 fixed weeks (crosses Sunday midnight) can be counted in either, but not both, unless it's 69 or more hours long, that's then a back to back weekly rest 45 + 24 or the other way about, or 90 or more for back to back regular weekly rests.
From the end of one weekly rest you have a max of 144 hours (6x24) before you need to start the next weekly rest - start 0600 Monday, you can work up till 0600 Sunday, no limit on the amount of shifts in that time
A weekly rest of at least 24 hours at any point, will reset the 144 and your 3x9 daily rest reductions, but you'll still need to make sure you're compliant with the minimum of 1 regular and 1 reduced in any 2 consecutive fixed weeks
A fixed week that is a reduced weekly rest will need the time you didn't have from 45 hours paying back by attaching it to any rest period of at least 9 hours and within the following 3 fixed weeks after the fixed week the reduction is in. If there's more than 1 reduced in a fixed week, only 1 will need to be compensated. So normally you'd just compensate the 1 that requires the least compensation.
😂. I have no clue how you managed to write all that never mind remember it. Hats off to ya. Think I’ll stick with my 6 5 5 6 pattern. Thank you. I have my answer 👍👍👍👍👍
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FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:24 am
glyixeren60 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:24 am In any 2 consecutive fixed weeks, you must have either 2 regular weekly rests or 1 regular weekly rest and 1 reduced
A fixed week is 0000 Mon - 2400 sun
A weekly rest that is in 2 fixed weeks (crosses Sunday midnight) can be counted in either, but not both, unless it's 69 or more hours long, that's then a back to back weekly rest 45 + 24 or the other way about, or 90 or more for back to back regular weekly rests.
From the end of one weekly rest you have a max of 144 hours (6x24) before you need to start the next weekly rest - start 0600 Monday, you can work up till 0600 Sunday, no limit on the amount of shifts in that time
A weekly rest of at least 24 hours at any point, will reset the 144 and your 3x9 daily rest reductions, but you'll still need to make sure you're compliant with the minimum of 1 regular and 1 reduced in any 2 consecutive fixed weeks
A fixed week that is a reduced weekly rest will need the time you didn't have from 45 hours paying back by attaching it to any rest period of at least 9 hours and within the following 3 fixed weeks after the fixed week the reduction is in. If there's more than 1 reduced in a fixed week, only 1 will need to be compensated. So normally you'd just compensate the 1 that requires the least compensation.
😂. I have no clue how you managed to write all that never mind remember it. Hats off to ya. Think I’ll stick with my 6 5 5 6 pattern. Thank you. I have my answer 👍👍👍👍👍
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glyixeren60 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:25 am
FenWeekly wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:24 am
glyixeren60 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:24 am In any 2 consecutive fixed weeks, you must have either 2 regular weekly rests or 1 regular weekly rest and 1 reduced
A fixed week is 0000 Mon - 2400 sun
A weekly rest that is in 2 fixed weeks (crosses Sunday midnight) can be counted in either, but not both, unless it's 69 or more hours long, that's then a back to back weekly rest 45 + 24 or the other way about, or 90 or more for back to back regular weekly rests.
From the end of one weekly rest you have a max of 144 hours (6x24) before you need to start the next weekly rest - start 0600 Monday, you can work up till 0600 Sunday, no limit on the amount of shifts in that time
A weekly rest of at least 24 hours at any point, will reset the 144 and your 3x9 daily rest reductions, but you'll still need to make sure you're compliant with the minimum of 1 regular and 1 reduced in any 2 consecutive fixed weeks
A fixed week that is a reduced weekly rest will need the time you didn't have from 45 hours paying back by attaching it to any rest period of at least 9 hours and within the following 3 fixed weeks after the fixed week the reduction is in. If there's more than 1 reduced in a fixed week, only 1 will need to be compensated. So normally you'd just compensate the 1 that requires the least compensation.
😂. I have no clue how you managed to write all that never mind remember it. Hats off to ya. Think I’ll stick with my 6 5 5 6 pattern. Thank you. I have my answer 👍👍👍👍👍
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we rely on glyixeren60 to do the typing!
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6,5,6,5,6,5,6,5... sorted... or just do 5 on 2 off and have a life 🤷‍♂️🤣
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I did two reduced on the bounce but I was on holiday the week after the 3rd period but I always tend to just do every other week to save any confusion
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That’s hard to explain. I think it’s because only 5 days have been worked, not 6, so it’s not a fixed week. As I read that, only the 24 hour reduced rest would need to be compensated before the end of week three.
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WhePrep wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:31 am That’s hard to explain. I think it’s because only 5 days have been worked, not 6, so it’s not a fixed week. As I read that, only the 24 hour reduced rest would need to be compensated before the end of week three.
thats called shifting 45h rest forwards, when it comes to reduced rest and its in start of week do another 24h rest at end off week and you are shifting 45h rest forwards by another 144h but your 45h rest must start before it hits Sunday midnight
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in the the tacho office he will put you right i think u are right as well....
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You can only 6 days one week then 5 days then 45 hour weekly rest
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jerrasp18 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:38 am You can only 6 days one week then 5 days then 45 hour weekly rest
you can do 6 days every week as long as you take the correct weekly rests
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jotchequ63 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:39 am
jerrasp18 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:38 am You can only 6 days one week then 5 days then 45 hour weekly rest
you can do 6 days every week as long as you take the correct weekly rests
tell me how you can do 6 days with a 45 hour rest period
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jerrasp18 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:40 am
jotchequ63 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:39 am
jerrasp18 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:38 am You can only 6 days one week then 5 days then 45 hour weekly rest
you can do 6 days every week as long as you take the correct weekly rests
tell me how you can do 6 days with a 45 hour rest period
finish at 12.00 Saturday start again 9.00 Monday
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jotchequ63 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:40 am
jerrasp18 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:40 am
jotchequ63 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:39 am

you can do 6 days every week as long as you take the correct weekly rests
tell me how you can do 6 days with a 45 hour rest period
finish at 12.00 Saturday start again 9.00 Monday
you can only do 90 hours in 2 weeks
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jerrasp18 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:41 am
jotchequ63 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:40 am
jerrasp18 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:40 am

tell me how you can do 6 days with a 45 hour rest period
finish at 12.00 Saturday start again 9.00 Monday
you can only do 90 hours in 2 weeks
90 hrs driving correct but I never said maximum hours every day
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Only on international work can you reduce 2 in a row. In UK you have to do 1 week 45 and the next 24.
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BodBorg wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:44 am Only on international work can you reduce 2 in a row. In UK you have to do 1 week 45 and the next 24.
surely European drivers hours are the same regardless of whether you're in the UK or mainland Europe..🤷‍♂️
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herlinque97 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:46 am
BodBorg wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:44 am Only on international work can you reduce 2 in a row. In UK you have to do 1 week 45 and the next 24.
surely European drivers hours are the same regardless of whether you're in the UK or mainland Europe..🤷‍♂️
nope
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BodBorg wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:46 am
herlinque97 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:46 am
BodBorg wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:44 am Only on international work can you reduce 2 in a row. In UK you have to do 1 week 45 and the next 24.
surely European drivers hours are the same regardless of whether you're in the UK or mainland Europe..🤷‍♂️
nope
enlighten me...I've been an hgv driver for over 40 years and never knew there's different regs..
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herlinque97 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:46 am
BodBorg wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:46 am
herlinque97 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:46 am

surely European drivers hours are the same regardless of whether you're in the UK or mainland Europe..🤷‍♂️
nope
enlighten me...I've been an hgv driver for over 40 years and never knew there's different regs..
The rules changed two years ago allowing drivers doing work away from their home country to reduce multiple weeks in a row as long as in any 4 weeks period they have at least 2 full weekly rests.
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Only on international work pal
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All depends on previous weekly rests, and I think the last time you had 72 hours off. Memory is a little hazy on this one, but yes it’s possible to do two reduced rests on the bounce, provided other criteria is met
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It is possible to reduce on two consecutive weekly rest periods, but it's complicated. If you do qualify then the 3rd weekly rest must be a regular weekly rest period and full compensation must be paid back by midnight Sunday.
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Every other weekend has to be 45 and reclaim any time owed easy
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graPierce wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:52 am Every other weekend has to be 45 and reclaim any time owed easy
Its not that simple. For example a driver who has just had a weeks holiday which overlapped midnight Sunday could then do 2 weekends of reduced weekly rests. Drivers doing European work are allowed to do back to back reduced weekly rests as long as they have 2 full weekly rests every 4 weeks.
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You can do 2 on the bounce but you'll likely lose a day's work on the pay back in the 3rd week.
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