If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
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If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
If I start work at 6 am. Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again before 6.am or does it reset as soon as my rest finishes. I'm wondering because id have driven more than 10 hours in 24 hours. Sorry if silly question I've just started nights out.
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
You can drive again after you've had 9 hours rest.
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
But make sure you put it on rest, not break...
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
You will have to wait until 6am. Your correct can’t drive more than 10hrs in 24 hrs. Hope this helps
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is it a limit or just the most you can fit in around your legal breaks?
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
on same footing driving time resets Sunday night. So if u work 4 on 4 off for example.
U could do ten hours sat 10 sun 10 Mon and 10 Tuesday legally. Absurd as it is.
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
the 10 hr drive rule is absurd as it should be the same for all drivers not different because of your shift pattern
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
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Yes you can. You can actually do 13.5 hrs drive in 24 hr period.
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
I'd have 11 off seems a waste only working 13 hours and then reducing rest. Especially if you end up needing a 15 hour shift to get back on a Friday!!!
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
No i'd say its up to me whether or not I reduce my rest but lets not go down that road
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
You can start again as soon as your daily rest finishes. There is no limit on driving time within a 24 hour period. It is possible to do upto 13.5 legally.
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Yes no probs you can drive after your 9 hour break
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If you start at 0600 and finish at 1900 then that's a 13 hour shift have your 11 hours rest if you can if you reduce to 9 or 10 hours rest that will class as a 15 hour shift so don't waste it if you can help it
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well I just saw he started at 6 and ended at 7 so was just saying...
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Some questions asked on here are sometimes so stupid. If I did 13 I had 11 off. Simple. Thank feck I retired on Feb 15th
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
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correct. But all the years I drove. If you can, have 11 off as often as possibleallYoung10 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:33 amthere are no stupid questions here
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
I always try and get 11 off but keeping my days below 13 hours can be a challengedenellu66 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:33 amcorrect. But all the years I drove. If you can, have 11 off as often as possible
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
reducing my rest to 9 hours. Means i can get home past the dartford crossing and the build up at clacket lane. Hit yard for 6.30 and that's me done for the day. The 11 hours would just have me sitting in traffic. Id like 11 hours but i want to benefit myselfallYoung10 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:34 amI always try and get 11 off but keeping my days below 13 hours can be a challenge
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it will be classed as a reduced rest. Shift length is immaterial, not mentioned in the regs, only rests.
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it doesn't count as a 15. You might be surprised to know that there is no mention of duty limits in the regulations, only a Rest Period.
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it does count as a 15 as it’s a reduced rest, the op would be using a 15 up regardless of shift left as he’s having reduced rest of 9 hrs
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it counts as a reduced. There are no limits on duty time, only rest periods.WalRaven wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:37 amit does count as a 15 as it’s a reduced rest, the op would be using a 15 up regardless of shift left as he’s having reduced rest of 9 hrs
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there's no such thing as a 15, only a regular or reduced daily rest period.WalRaven wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:37 amit does count as a 15 as it’s a reduced rest, the op would be using a 15 up regardless of shift left as he’s having reduced rest of 9 hrs
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I beg to differ, it’s always been as far as I care to remember 15/9 13/11 to coincide with the 24 hr clock
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
the regulations are clear. You must have 11 hours rest within the 24 hour period, this may be reduced to a minimum of 9 hours on no more than three occasions between Weekly Rest Periods.
There is no mention of how long a duty period can be in the regulations.
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so what would happen do you think if you had say 2 reduced rests and had 3 15’s bk to bk??jamBleak wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:41 amthe regulations are clear. You must have 11 hours rest within the 24 hour period, this may be reduced to a minimum of 9 hours on no more than three occasions between Weekly Rest Periods.
There is no mention of how long a duty period can be in the regulations.
9 hrs rest is still classed as a 15 hr shift previous
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you've had 3 reduced daily rests.WalRaven wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:42 amso what would happen do you think if you had say 2 reduced rests and had 3 15’s bk to bk??jamBleak wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:41 amthe regulations are clear. You must have 11 hours rest within the 24 hour period, this may be reduced to a minimum of 9 hours on no more than three occasions between Weekly Rest Periods.
There is no mention of how long a duty period can be in the regulations.
9 hrs rest is still classed as a 15 hr shift previous
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yes or 04.00 either 11 or 9 offjamBleak wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:42 amyou've had 3 reduced daily rests.WalRaven wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:42 amso what would happen do you think if you had say 2 reduced rests and had 3 15’s bk to bk??jamBleak wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:41 am
the regulations are clear. You must have 11 hours rest within the 24 hour period, this may be reduced to a minimum of 9 hours on no more than three occasions between Weekly Rest Periods.
There is no mention of how long a duty period can be in the regulations.
9 hrs rest is still classed as a 15 hr shift previous
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
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Click on that and download the simplified guide. It's better worded than the full documents and a few that have commented on here could do with having a read as well.
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Okay great stuff chaps thanks for the speedy replies also. Alarm set now
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Daily rests clear daily driving clock
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Technically you can do 6 shifts in 5 days. As long as had daily rest it’s irrelevant of drive in 24hr period.
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You can do what ever yeh like
It’s only a infringement if u c**k up life goes on
It’s only a infringement if u c**k up life goes on
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Why would you want to drive 13.5 hours in 24... No wonder the job and the rates are f**ked
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The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
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Course it does.... Jesus dont you know anything
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aye okGarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Why mate?stentheid52 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:54 amaye okGarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
you don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Exactly..... Then they went tits up.... What do morrisons want to pay then.... Stobart rates or top rates..... Answers on a postcard numbnuts.... Thanks for proving my pointIanbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amyou don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
big manGarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amExactly..... Then they went tits up.... What do morrisons want to pay then.... Stobart rates or top rates..... Answers on a postcard numbnuts.... Thanks for proving my pointIanbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amyou don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
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if brains were dynamite you you'd have enough to blow your nose. its drivers from the 90s that let the rates get f**ked.GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amExactly..... Then they went tits up.... What do morrisons want to pay then.... Stobart rates or top rates..... Answers on a postcard numbnuts.... Thanks for proving my pointIanbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amyou don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
petthandi8 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:56 ambig manGarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amExactly..... Then they went tits up.... What do morrisons want to pay then.... Stobart rates or top rates..... Answers on a postcard numbnuts.... Thanks for proving my pointIanbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 am
you don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
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that us how stobbarts fucked all our wages down you muppet they forced prices down for everyone so no one could afford to pay decent rates of pay. If a company only has 10 trucks it can't compete with stobbarts. When ever another company got big enough like irwins stobbarts just bought them out. In any other sector that would have been seen as them having a monopoly on the market but as they were keeping transport costs down the government turned a blind eye which has led to the industry being f**ked.Ianbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amyou don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
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Stobart wages have increased year on year for the last 15 years. Smaller companies don’t compete with the likes of Stobart, Culina, Great Bear, Turners, DSV, DFDS, Amazon, or Maritime. Instead they work with them, they subcontract.DaThenorn wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:00 amthat us how stobbarts fucked all our wages down you muppet they forced prices down for everyone so no one could afford to pay decent rates of pay. If a company only has 10 trucks it can't compete with stobbarts. When ever another company got big enough like irwins stobbarts just bought them out. In any other sector that would have been seen as them having a monopoly on the market but as they were keeping transport costs down the government turned a blind eye which has led to the industry being f**ked.Ianbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amyou don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
Maybe with the right attitude, and less of the name calling (because that’s the only way you know how to try and prove your point), you too could earn a decent wage in a week. Good luck
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Who would you rather pay? 35 individual invoices or varying amounts, or one invoice and let that contractor deal with all the subcontractors?GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amExactly..... Then they went tits up.... What do morrisons want to pay then.... Stobart rates or top rates..... Answers on a postcard numbnuts.... Thanks for proving my pointIanbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amyou don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
Big business making money, and with the right attitude, and less name calling (because that’s the only way you know how to try and get your point across), you too could earn a decent wage every week. On that I wish you good luck, I think you’ll need it
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stobbarts wages may have increased but probably at 1% per year. And you are making my point for me. Stobbarts have cornered the market, forced prices down and forced smaller companies to comply or go bust. And have forced wages down so much it's ridiculous. And don't get me started on amazon the money they pay and the working conditions are appalling.Ianbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:01 amStobart wages have increased year on year for the last 15 years. Smaller companies don’t compete with the likes of Stobart, Culina, Great Bear, Turners, DSV, DFDS, Amazon, or Maritime. Instead they work with them, they subcontract.DaThenorn wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:00 amthat us how stobbarts fucked all our wages down you muppet they forced prices down for everyone so no one could afford to pay decent rates of pay. If a company only has 10 trucks it can't compete with stobbarts. When ever another company got big enough like irwins stobbarts just bought them out. In any other sector that would have been seen as them having a monopoly on the market but as they were keeping transport costs down the government turned a blind eye which has led to the industry being f**ked.Ianbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 am
you don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
Maybe with the right attitude, and less of the name calling (because that’s the only way you know how to try and prove your point), you too could earn a decent wage in a week. Good luck
The company I work for have just given us over 10% pay rise and an 8% pay rise last year. And I earned very good money for this year and I don't night out. So your righteous attitude can do one.
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
what are you saying?Ianbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:01 amWho would you rather pay? 35 individual invoices or varying amounts, or one invoice and let that contractor deal with all the subcontractors?GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amExactly..... Then they went tits up.... What do morrisons want to pay then.... Stobart rates or top rates..... Answers on a postcard numbnuts.... Thanks for proving my pointIanbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 am
you don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
Big business making money, and with the right attitude, and less name calling (because that’s the only way you know how to try and get your point across), you too could earn a decent wage every week. On that I wish you good luck, I think you’ll need it
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
remember them daysGarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amExactly..... Then they went tits up.... What do morrisons want to pay then.... Stobart rates or top rates..... Answers on a postcard numbnuts.... Thanks for proving my pointIanbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amyou don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
we’ve had 25% pay increase since September 2021 where I work. Thank god for the driver shortageDaThenorn wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:00 amthat us how stobbarts fucked all our wages down you muppet they forced prices down for everyone so no one could afford to pay decent rates of pay. If a company only has 10 trucks it can't compete with stobbarts. When ever another company got big enough like irwins stobbarts just bought them out. In any other sector that would have been seen as them having a monopoly on the market but as they were keeping transport costs down the government turned a blind eye which has led to the industry being f**ked.Ianbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:55 amyou don’t half talk some rubbish. Rates have absolutely naff all to do with how much a driver does in 24hrs.GarElement wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:53 am The point I am making is that's why the rates are f**ked...... And the job....ive earned more money in the 90s than people are earning now.... £3500 for Portugal in 94...30 years ago.... Diesel was 40p a litre in uk..... Do the math
It’s all to do with how little profit they need to make per lorry on the fleet, so with 600 lorries for instance, making £5 profit per lorry per day, 6 days a week is a grand total of £18,000 profit.
To get the same profit margin running 200 lorries for 6 days a week, you’d need to be making £15 profit per lorry, per day, which increases your rate charged to the customer.
The customer will ALWAYS go with the lower price, hence why Stobart upset quite a number of hauliers when they took on the Morrisons contract during Covid.. They offered a lower rate!
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
the faster its done the cheaper the rate...... Its not rocket science
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Ask Kenyon haulage in Blackburn
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they have gone bust...... Sure you could sort it though
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Kenyon Road Transport, was under the control of Graham Darnell after the family sold it in 2016. He also runs Truswell & Sons, and did run Adam Jones & Sons until that went bust last year.
Says more about the man that’s running the business than anything else. Do your homework first
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Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Stobarts been bang more times than a brothel keepers front door and made small hauliers fold at the same time.... Tesco.... Culina.... Morrisons have all bailed them out.... Ask yourself why.... Sh*t rates.... Working 24/7 shit work patterns.... Ie doing exactly what the cab rats on here are doing road haulage needs a proper governing body.... 12 hours work in any 24hr period and 12 hours rest in the same...... Stack shelves in aldi for 70hrs and you are on more money..... FACTIanbertax30 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:08 amKenyon Road Transport, was under the control of Graham Darnell after the family sold it in 2016. He also runs Truswell & Sons, and did run Adam Jones & Sons until that went bust last year.
Says more about the man that’s running the business than anything else. Do your homework first
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
Once you have had 11 or 9 hrs daily rest your day starts again ie finish 1900 reduced rest till 0400 day begins again as long as you have 10 hrs driving in a working week between weakly rest periods your good
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
10 hr drives are fixed week not between weekly rest periods.
Re: If I start work at 6 am Max out my 10 driving hours and go on rest at 7pm. Reduce rest to 9 hours. Can I drive again
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