Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told have to be ratchet straps, made him do them on the road!! They are a complete pain but not so bad if you can be on the back while loading.
Anyway this place today, not allowed out the cab driver while loading, health and safety!!
How am I to strap these then Mr forkie??
Oh all the other drivers just use internals.
Over an hour to get them straps on!
Anybody been stopped with them and what did the gentlemen say??
Just wondering if I am being fed rubbish as I see all the others going in to the place we tip with just internals.
Anyway this place today, not allowed out the cab driver while loading, health and safety!!
How am I to strap these then Mr forkie??
Oh all the other drivers just use internals.
Over an hour to get them straps on!
Anybody been stopped with them and what did the gentlemen say??
Just wondering if I am being fed rubbish as I see all the others going in to the place we tip with just internals.
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Double stacked....they would want them ratcheting mate
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
I'll be corrected quickly if I'm wrong, but I think you're allowed 400kg on internals.
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not if double stacked.ashnidemo10 wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:00 pm I'll be corrected quickly if I'm wrong, but I think you're allowed 400kg on internals.
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
you are correct, 400kg per internal strap. Double up if you have enough strapsashnidemo10 wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:00 pm I'll be corrected quickly if I'm wrong, but I think you're allowed 400kg on internals.
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no point doubling up on internals “if you have enough “, they’re double stacked so would still be classed as an insecure load. Ratchet strapped to the bed, or internal oversheet at a minimum.RaivLex wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:00 pmyou are correct, 400kg per internal strap. Double up if you have enough strapsashnidemo10 wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:00 pm I'll be corrected quickly if I'm wrong, but I think you're allowed 400kg on internals.
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Yea double stacking needs strapping
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
If that is the case they need strapping if there that close to the roof just throw some straps up and over the roof fuck sitting there all day trying to thread a needle mate
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Deffo should be strapped. The next good one is to ask for a ladder to strap up. Should supply one if they are loading that high.
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
so what is the solution?? Let me guess, risk it and if you get caught it comes straight back to the driver.
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
get accurate or use airport stepsRonnMoto wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:04 pmso what is the solution?? Let me guess, risk it and if you get caught it comes straight back to the driver.
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Whenever I’ve seen these before they’ve been on the back of a flatbed and strapped for obvious reasons, would have thought it would be the same even in a curtain??
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Takes as long as it takes no problem two straps over each one then a cup of tea
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You need to be a better shot with your strap throwing
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Load not secure with internals use ratchet straps and stop whining vosa will have you with just internals on
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Single or double ratchet and straps cause of weight over 400kg
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Ask trucker Tim he does these regular and stacked waste and don’t put strap on any
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Think you will find loader has duty of care aswell as driver tell him you both get nicked or frighten them with corporate manslaughter bit drastic
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
All lids no matter what should be strapped !i.e. ratcheted. That way the VOSA can’t argue about anything. It Is always best to be safe than sorry. The modern day VOSA are a bit more stricter than the chaps from my early days back in the 70’s. Always be one step ahead guys.
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modern day vosa have got 2 years worth of money to catch up on.porrewinp22 wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:09 pm All lids no matter what should be strapped !i.e. ratcheted. That way the VOSA can’t argue about anything. It Is always best to be safe than sorry. The modern day VOSA are a bit more stricter than the chaps from my early days back in the 70’s. Always be one step ahead guys.
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Oh Yes. If there’s always a penny or to pinch they’ll be in there pal. Drivers are an easy target. Always keep yourself on the right side of the law at all times guys.AifamExam wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:10 pmmodern day vosa have got 2 years worth of money to catch up on.porrewinp22 wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:09 pm All lids no matter what should be strapped !i.e. ratcheted. That way the VOSA can’t argue about anything. It Is always best to be safe than sorry. The modern day VOSA are a bit more stricter than the chaps from my early days back in the 70’s. Always be one step ahead guys.
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Do they load them from one side and push them across?? If they do hook strap on far side, and the chuck it on the nearest side roof, as they push em across the straps will drop over the bins! Job done...
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
not allowed out the cab till loaded!!! Other places let me up on the bed and I strap as they load - easy, not this place!!!
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
What the f**k is this industry tuning into.... Can see where the authorities are coming from, but back in the day you'd cross strap the back & that would be it... internal straps & XL curtains are enough to take any movement out of a load like that... Same ball game, different rules these day's..
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
it’s bollox now. My first driving days started on a 7.5 flat cargo carrying 4 tonne payload off 4x1 tonne pallets of dog food. Roped on and no straps and never an issue. Then a 1717 merc curtain side , carrying the same but 10 pallets at tonne each. All 25kg bags 40 on a pallet internal straps only and never a issue.keitPoshy wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:13 pm What the f**k is this industry tuning into.... Can see where the authorities are coming from, but back in the day you'd cross strap the back & that would be it... internal straps & XL curtains are enough to take any movement out of a load like that... Same ball game, different rules these day's..
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Did you have a 45 in that hour? we get these strapped in under 10mins no sweat well maybe abit of sweat
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
not when it’s blowing Gale in an open field you’ve got to just miss the top. I’ve done curtains as well mate, plenty of space there on this load trick is not trying too hard. Harder you try more you miss
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
no the trick is if you miss with one strap drop it on the floor and grab another strap. The problem is with the strap not the operatorCartLime wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:15 pmnot when it’s blowing Gale in an open field you’ve got to just miss the top. I’ve done curtains as well mate, plenty of space there on this load trick is not trying too hard. Harder you try more you miss
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Invest in one of these…make your life easier
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Surly that would be down to the company to supply it RCL used to supply oursmickMage wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:17 pm Invest in one of these…make your life easier
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
he could ask his gaffer to buy one but if he gets no joy there then why not buy your own? Or you could just struggle choice is hisNajandago wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:17 pmSurly that would be down to the company to supply it RCL used to supply oursmickMage wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:17 pm Invest in one of these…make your life easier
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
i dont really know how this would help ive used them before for putting in edges under straps but problem is getting straps across the top mate is there a way i dont know about thanksmickMage wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:17 pm Invest in one of these…make your life easier
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this is handy but a bit priceyQuicSoft wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:18 pmi dont really know how this would help ive used them before for putting in edges under straps but problem is getting straps across the top mate is there a way i dont know about thanksmickMage wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:17 pm Invest in one of these…make your life easier
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
and if it’s really tight and you do it a lot there’s this, and no I’m not a bloody salesman I just believe in the adage “Work smart, not hard”QuicSoft wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:18 pmi dont really know how this would help ive used them before for putting in edges under straps but problem is getting straps across the top mate is there a way i dont know about thanksmickMage wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:17 pm Invest in one of these…make your life easier
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
That last one is a bit dear but would really help you mate thanksmickMage wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:19 pmand if it’s really tight and you do it a lot there’s this, and no I’m not a bloody salesman I just believe in the adage “Work smart, not hard”QuicSoft wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:18 pmi dont really know how this would help ive used them before for putting in edges under straps but problem is getting straps across the top mate is there a way i dont know about thanksmickMage wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:17 pm Invest in one of these…make your life easier
https://www.cargo-stop.com/propole-extra-long-6-12.html
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
they should supply you with a ladder platform or safety gantry if they won't let you stand on back while loading so see what they say to that next time or you don't load them simple or get there health and safety person out of office and tell them
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
At the end of the day it’s your load so you need to strap it properly and to be honest you should know the answer whether they need strapping or not , the buck stops with you mate nobody else
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
would agree with your comments, i would always use ratchet straps on that load.
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i would suggest Mr. Forkie gets his transport supervisor out & if he wont let you strap them, suggest you will give DVSA a call & they can have a chat with him.
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
I never use straps i go slowly in the bends italian style
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
That’s a 10 minute job to strap them up, plenty of room between load and roof to throw them over.
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Even
Stuart could throw them over that load
Stuart could throw them over that load
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
I was thinking the same thing mate, we have about 6” if we are lucky even less when Terry is loading themwillBlogger wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:30 pmeasy that …not sure what all the fuss is …maybe they should have a go at a few of our loads
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
exactly …maybe we are just used to it nowHanYour wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:30 pmI was thinking the same thing mate, we have about 6” if we are lucky even less when Terry is loading themwillBlogger wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:30 pmeasy that …not sure what all the fuss is …maybe they should have a go at a few of our loads
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
you would have just shut the curtainswillBlogger wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:31 pmexactly …maybe we are just used to it nowHanYour wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:30 pmI was thinking the same thing mate, we have about 6” if we are lucky even less when Terry is loading themwillBlogger wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:30 pm
easy that …not sure what all the fuss is …maybe they should have a go at a few of our loads
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
ain’t worth the fine unlike some lazy drivers who seem to chance itflinBerlin wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:31 pmyou would have just shut the curtains
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that load on this post is a 10 minute job,willBlogger wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:32 pmain’t worth the fine unlike some lazy drivers who seem to chance it
So it’s not worth risking a fine is it ?
Also if you get pulled you will lose more than 10 minutes so just do it in the first place.
We’re not allowed to get out without anything strapped are we
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
we wouldn’t be allowed out the yardHanYour wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:32 pmthat load on this post is a 10 minute job,willBlogger wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:32 pmain’t worth the fine unlike some lazy drivers who seem to chance it
So it’s not worth risking a fine is it ?
Also if you get pulled you will lose more than 10 minutes so just do it in the first place.
We’re not allowed to get out without anything strapped are we
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Depends on the weight of them and the type of curtains on the trailer
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
everyone who doesn't use ratchets says this then gets pulled and told to put straps on. They don't seem bothered about your curtains tbhIanphally70 wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:33 pm Depends on the weight of them and the type of curtains on the trailer
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Have same problem at a job but you can stay on the trailer floor while loading.
Can be very difficult I prefer to get up a ladder afterwards from one side.
Ps icbs arnt full have like 25 percent in each one for some off reason.
Can be very difficult I prefer to get up a ladder afterwards from one side.
Ps icbs arnt full have like 25 percent in each one for some off reason.
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Why not throw straps over when you have been loaded ?
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
yes mate it does make you wonder sometimestagPlacard wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:35 pmif some of the drivers on here had a brain they would be dangerous
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
I would be strapp8ng them around to the chassis not the hook points
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Saint Gobain glass factory, drivers are not allowed to strap they load when loading, more than that, the whole area outside is on double yellow, no strapping bays or anything, I’ve done it once, they’ve told me this, I didn’t gave a damn, when I had options, I was putting straps on and I’ve finished it up outside on the double yellow, duck them!
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Surely you can refuse to move as insecure load.
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
I will never understand drivers that complain about sites that don’t allow you to strap up. Utter bollocks. Stay where you are and strap up, full stop. What the F@&k is the worry?? Is it that these drivers are scared of being told off?? Bless. Xx. We all know our loads must be safe. I can understand it can be awkward during a stand off, but it’s your licence so feck their piss pot rules x
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
and that’s why I pull a fridge pal !!!tongerro18 wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:38 pm I will never understand drivers that complain about sites that don’t allow you to strap up. Utter bollocks. Stay where you are and strap up, full stop. What the F@&k is the worry?? Is it that these drivers are scared of being told off?? Bless. Xx. We all know our loads must be safe. I can understand it can be awkward during a stand off, but it’s your licence so feck their piss pot rules x
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Just refuse to collect the load if they refuse you to strap up in their yard.tongerro18 wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:38 pm I will never understand drivers that complain about sites that don’t allow you to strap up. Utter bollocks. Stay where you are and strap up, full stop. What the F@&k is the worry?? Is it that these drivers are scared of being told off?? Bless. Xx. We all know our loads must be safe. I can understand it can be awkward during a stand off, but it’s your licence so feck their piss pot rules x
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In the late 70s, rope and sheeting, I would refuse to move my vehicle until the load was secure, would tell them that I was the captain of this ship matey. If your not happy take the load offCoulRazo wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:39 pmJust refuse to collect the load if they refuse you to strap up in their yard.tongerro18 wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 1:38 pm I will never understand drivers that complain about sites that don’t allow you to strap up. Utter bollocks. Stay where you are and strap up, full stop. What the F@&k is the worry?? Is it that these drivers are scared of being told off?? Bless. Xx. We all know our loads must be safe. I can understand it can be awkward during a stand off, but it’s your licence so feck their piss pot rules x
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
As a boss said to me once would you take a load like that unstrapped on a flat. (my answer being no) his reply well you will need to strap it on a curtainsider.
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
bit different tho with load baring curtains and internal straps on.. overkill and anything to catch a driver out
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Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
ENXL curtains are only valid if the whole body is specced to ENXL, there will be a blue & white plate on the chassis or body if it's compliant.
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
Maybe different curtains. Our company changed all our fleets curtains when the law changed a couple of years ago. There will be something on the curtains saying they are load barring or not. Some loads may still be safer to strap.
Re: Anybody run with these regularly, one of our drivers got pulled with just internals on "apparently" and was told
nothing to do with the curtains being load bearing. The whole trailer has to be designed and built following EN12642.
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