Everything I’ve stated is illegal to do whilst driving so why not We’ve all done it. Some companies are more lenient than others, just depends on how pathetic they want to be!iannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:47 pm“Eating while driving”!!?RADPEEL wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:46 pmNot wearing a seatbelt, being on the phone, eating whilst driving. Things like that. We’re all guilty of it at some stageiannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:46 pm
Define “doing something you’re not meant to”.
Because your employer’s definition of that will probably be different to yours.
And you’re ok with them using a camera to pick you up on something like that?
… wow.
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I’d like to see our planners’ reactions if I had to pull over every time I felt like pulling a sandwich out of the fridge, or felt “a bit of a sneeze” coming on.RADPEEL wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:47 pmEverything I’ve stated is illegal to do whilst driving so why not We’ve all done it. Some companies are more lenient than others, just depends on how pathetic they want to be!iannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:47 pm“Eating while driving”!!?
And you’re ok with them using a camera to pick you up on something like that?
… wow.
Pretty sure they’d disable that camera themselves within a week.
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When every forklift driver has an inward facing camera, every planner has a live-link to the webcam above his screen, every transport manager has a camera I can access in the corner of his office, pointing at his workplace, when the CEO agrees to cameras in the boardroom - then I might go along with this crap.RADPEEL wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:47 pmEverything I’ve stated is illegal to do whilst driving so why not We’ve all done it. Some companies are more lenient than others, just depends on how pathetic they want to be!iannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:47 pm“Eating while driving”!!?
And you’re ok with them using a camera to pick you up on something like that?
… wow.
Until then - it’s a handy place to hang my hat.
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That’s your opinion. Like the driver facing camera that sent down a driver because he wasn’t paying attention to the road and killed multiple people. Like i said, if you don’t like it being there then you must be doing something you’re not meant toiannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:48 pmWhen every forklift driver has an inward facing camera, every planner has a live-link to the webcam above his screen, every transport manager has a camera I can access in the corner of his office, pointing at his workplace, when the CEO agrees to cameras in the boardroom - then I might go along with this crap.RADPEEL wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:47 pmEverything I’ve stated is illegal to do whilst driving so why not We’ve all done it. Some companies are more lenient than others, just depends on how pathetic they want to be!iannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:47 pm
“Eating while driving”!!?
And you’re ok with them using a camera to pick you up on something like that?
… wow.
Until then - it’s a handy place to hang my hat.
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Or the driver who was sacked because they saw him smoking on the footage - when they told him it was “for his safety only”.RADPEEL wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:49 pmThat’s your opinion. Like the driver facing camera that sent down a driver because he wasn’t paying attention to the road and killed multiple people. Like i said, if you don’t like it being there then you must be doing something you’re not meant toiannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:48 pmWhen every forklift driver has an inward facing camera, every planner has a live-link to the webcam above his screen, every transport manager has a camera I can access in the corner of his office, pointing at his workplace, when the CEO agrees to cameras in the boardroom - then I might go along with this crap.
Until then - it’s a handy place to hang my hat.
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No, no, bring it on, you’ve converted me.RADPEEL wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:49 pmThat’s your opinion. Like the driver facing camera that sent down a driver because he wasn’t paying attention to the road and killed multiple people. Like i said, if you don’t like it being there then you must be doing something you’re not meant toiannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:48 pmWhen every forklift driver has an inward facing camera, every planner has a live-link to the webcam above his screen, every transport manager has a camera I can access in the corner of his office, pointing at his workplace, when the CEO agrees to cameras in the boardroom - then I might go along with this crap.
Until then - it’s a handy place to hang my hat.
I’ll be visiting every single services between Harwich & Glasgow, to do all the things I’m “not supposed to be doing” while driving.
I left primary school in 1976 mate. We kind of expect to be treated like adults where I work.
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I don’t have them in my truck but know of drivers who do and they don’t care. Some companies use them to spy on you and some companies use it for good purposes. Just got to pick the good from the badiannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:50 pmNo, no, bring it on, you’ve converted me.RADPEEL wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:49 pmThat’s your opinion. Like the driver facing camera that sent down a driver because he wasn’t paying attention to the road and killed multiple people. Like i said, if you don’t like it being there then you must be doing something you’re not meant toiannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:48 pm
When every forklift driver has an inward facing camera, every planner has a live-link to the webcam above his screen, every transport manager has a camera I can access in the corner of his office, pointing at his workplace, when the CEO agrees to cameras in the boardroom - then I might go along with this crap.
Until then - it’s a handy place to hang my hat.
I’ll be visiting every single services between Harwich & Glasgow, to do all the things I’m “not supposed to be doing” while driving.
I left primary school in 1976 mate. We kind of expect to be treated like adults where I work.
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I’m just wondering when it was that the Great British Trucker became so meek.RADPEEL wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:50 pmI don’t have them in my truck but know of drivers who do and they don’t care. Some companies use them to spy on you and some companies use it for good purposes. Just got to pick the good from the badiannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:50 pmNo, no, bring it on, you’ve converted me.
I’ll be visiting every single services between Harwich & Glasgow, to do all the things I’m “not supposed to be doing” while driving.
I left primary school in 1976 mate. We kind of expect to be treated like adults where I work.
I’m guessing around the time Stobart drivers started grassing each other up for not wearing a green tie. New generation came through - too scared to say Boo to a goose.
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They are few and far between but times are changing and unfortunately more and more people are becoming snowflakesiannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:51 pmI’m just wondering when it was that the Great British Trucker became so meek.RADPEEL wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:50 pmI don’t have them in my truck but know of drivers who do and they don’t care. Some companies use them to spy on you and some companies use it for good purposes. Just got to pick the good from the badiannichoJR wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:50 pm
No, no, bring it on, you’ve converted me.
I’ll be visiting every single services between Harwich & Glasgow, to do all the things I’m “not supposed to be doing” while driving.
I left primary school in 1976 mate. We kind of expect to be treated like adults where I work.
I’m guessing around the time Stobart drivers started grassing each other up for not wearing a green tie. New generation came through - too scared to say Boo to a goose.
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If I could have a screen in my cab, recording everything they do in the office, each individual desk that I could record at random, then I might consider a driver facing camera in my cab! ( On reflection, no chance! I would never entertain it)
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same they can ram them up their holes, simple !!Timm.Classy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:53 pm If I could have a screen in my cab, recording everything they do in the office, each individual desk that I could record at random, then I might consider a driver facing camera in my cab! ( On reflection, no chance! I would never entertain it)
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Can’t see the problem if you’ve nothing to hide.
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Perfectly legal , the same as CCTV in any workplace. Covering the camera is a disciplinary offence. They only record when the vehicle is switched on and most close down after the vehicle has been stationary for a few minutes. They will save you company a fortune on insurance premiums and could save you license and may be even your life after a collision/incident. If you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about!
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please expand on how it could save your life after a collision? Does it become articulate and administer first aid?ROSS+Press wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:55 pm Perfectly legal , the same as CCTV in any workplace. Covering the camera is a disciplinary offence. They only record when the vehicle is switched on and most close down after the vehicle has been stationary for a few minutes. They will save you company a fortune on insurance premiums and could save you license and may be even your life after a collision/incident. If you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about!
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if it is a live link system it records a sudden stop. it will notify your control/transport office. They will then check on the driver either by phone or through the camera system. If you are incapacitated they can send help.iannPark33 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:56 pmplease expand on how it could save your life after a collision? Does it become articulate and administer first aid?ROSS+Press wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:55 pm Perfectly legal , the same as CCTV in any workplace. Covering the camera is a disciplinary offence. They only record when the vehicle is switched on and most close down after the vehicle has been stationary for a few minutes. They will save you company a fortune on insurance premiums and could save you license and may be even your life after a collision/incident. If you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about!
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surely trackers and systems such as Scania fleet do the same, without the invasion of privacy?ROSS+Press wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:07 pmif it is a live link system it records a sudden stop. it will notify your control/transport office. They will then check on the driver either by phone or through the camera system. If you are incapacitated they can send help.iannPark33 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:56 pmplease expand on how it could save your life after a collision? Does it become articulate and administer first aid?ROSS+Press wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:55 pm Perfectly legal , the same as CCTV in any workplace. Covering the camera is a disciplinary offence. They only record when the vehicle is switched on and most close down after the vehicle has been stationary for a few minutes. They will save you company a fortune on insurance premiums and could save you license and may be even your life after a collision/incident. If you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about!
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some trackers will notify a sudden stop.. not everyone is unfortunate enough to drive a scaniaiannPark33 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:07 pmsurely trackers and systems such as Scania fleet do the same, without the invasion of privacy?ROSS+Press wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:07 pmif it is a live link system it records a sudden stop. it will notify your control/transport office. They will then check on the driver either by phone or through the camera system. If you are incapacitated they can send help.iannPark33 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:56 pm
please expand on how it could save your life after a collision? Does it become articulate and administer first aid?
Companies have actually been taken to court to prove that as its in the workplace it's not classed as invasion of privacy. But there are restrictions to what a company can do with them and the footage
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When every forklift driver has an inward facing camera, every planner has a live-link to the webcam above his screen, every transport manager has a camera I can access in the corner of his office, pointing at his workplace, when the CEO agrees to cameras in the boardroom - then I might go along with this crap.
Until then - it’s a handy place to hang my hat.
Until then - it’s a handy place to hang my hat.
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Not sure what your problem is I have one every night not caused me any issue but I drive with due care and attention only cowboys are scared of these things
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If you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about
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I think it’s wrong …… absolutely no privacy at all
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Your in a place of work but it must be able to turn off when ignition isn’t on, so it’s legal, if you’ve nothing to hide, what’s the problem
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exactlytrukkerConn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:11 pm Your in a place of work but it must be able to turn off when ignition isn’t on, so it’s legal, if you’ve nothing to hide, what’s the problem
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They've had em years I out a post up about this 2 years ago.
When the ignition is off its. Not filming aparantly..
But they do check it. Randomly. Throughout your shift so be careful I've know drivers. To. Be dismissed when they get back for answering a call..
Its dogs hit we all know it but this sorta thing is only going to get worse. I mends look at me here I am doing 50 in the middle lane and nothing had hap.....
When the ignition is off its. Not filming aparantly..
But they do check it. Randomly. Throughout your shift so be careful I've know drivers. To. Be dismissed when they get back for answering a call..
Its dogs hit we all know it but this sorta thing is only going to get worse. I mends look at me here I am doing 50 in the middle lane and nothing had hap.....
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I have one, if your not doing anything wrong you be ok, carry on
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It’s not really anything to do with ‘if you’re doing nothing wrong why worry’.
It’s a little to do with civil liberties and the gradual erosion of privacy. Smacks very much of ‘1984’ by George Orwell. Having been entrusted to do the job correctly for 50 years, from London to Tehran and all points on between, without company input for weeks at a time, why would a company feel the need to have such intimate control of an employees life. As per other comments concerning telematics and other forms of checking an employers performance it does nothing to encourage new employees into the industry. X
It’s a little to do with civil liberties and the gradual erosion of privacy. Smacks very much of ‘1984’ by George Orwell. Having been entrusted to do the job correctly for 50 years, from London to Tehran and all points on between, without company input for weeks at a time, why would a company feel the need to have such intimate control of an employees life. As per other comments concerning telematics and other forms of checking an employers performance it does nothing to encourage new employees into the industry. X
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a lot of the time now insurance companies are starting too ask for it and I would guessing they get a better deal on insurance ratesPAUCINEXS wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:29 am It’s not really anything to do with ‘if you’re doing nothing wrong why worry’.
It’s a little to do with civil liberties and the gradual erosion of privacy. Smacks very much of ‘1984’ by George Orwell. Having been entrusted to do the job correctly for 50 years, from London to Tehran and all points on between, without company input for weeks at a time, why would a company feel the need to have such intimate control of an employees life. As per other comments concerning telematics and other forms of checking an employers performance it does nothing to encourage new employees into the industry. X
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Put tape over it, or a device playing a wagon journey.
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Just crank one out every hour they will either get you help or stop giving you trucks with a camera
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if he does that he'll be out of "fuel" by the third hourStepayer.Max wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:34 am Just crank one out every hour they will either get you help or stop giving you trucks with a camera
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Got em in ours, over passenger door. For insurance purposes
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How much is the agency paying you to be there?
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if you don't want to do something you don't have to. It's not all about money. The agency wouldn't have paid if he refused to drive it. He can go and find a truck without a camera on him everyone happy.
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I just wanted to know what the agy is paying at cullina matesales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:37 amif you don't want to do something you don't have to. It's not all about money. The agency wouldn't have paid if he refused to drive it. He can go and find a truck without a camera on him everyone happy.
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19£/hkirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:38 amI just wanted to know what the agy is paying at cullina matesales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:37 amif you don't want to do something you don't have to. It's not all about money. The agency wouldn't have paid if he refused to drive it. He can go and find a truck without a camera on him everyone happy.
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is goodStanis_Munde wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:41 am19£/hkirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:38 amI just wanted to know what the agy is paying at cullina matesales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:37 am
if you don't want to do something you don't have to. It's not all about money. The agency wouldn't have paid if he refused to drive it. He can go and find a truck without a camera on him everyone happy.
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And you complain?Stanis_Munde wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:41 am19£/hkirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:38 amI just wanted to know what the agy is paying at cullina matesales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:37 am
if you don't want to do something you don't have to. It's not all about money. The agency wouldn't have paid if he refused to drive it. He can go and find a truck without a camera on him everyone happy.
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yeskirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:42 amAnd you complain?Stanis_Munde wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:41 am19£/hkirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:38 am
I just wanted to know what the agy is paying at cullina mate
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fair enough chap, from what I've been offered so far agency are behindkirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:38 amI just wanted to know what the agy is paying at cullina matesales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:37 amif you don't want to do something you don't have to. It's not all about money. The agency wouldn't have paid if he refused to drive it. He can go and find a truck without a camera on him everyone happy.
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how's that?sales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:43 amfair enough chap, from what I've been offered so far agency are behindkirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:38 amI just wanted to know what the agy is paying at cullina matesales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:37 am
if you don't want to do something you don't have to. It's not all about money. The agency wouldn't have paid if he refused to drive it. He can go and find a truck without a camera on him everyone happy.
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well in felixstowe and stowmarket areas I was offered 12£ ish but from experience I tend to steer clear from agency now and not just the money..kirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:44 amhow's that?sales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:43 amfair enough chap, from what I've been offered so far agency are behindkirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:38 am
I just wanted to know what the agy is paying at cullina mate
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12 ish is not greatsales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:44 amwell in felixstowe and stowmarket areas I was offered 12£ ish but from experience I tend to steer clear from agency now and not just the money..kirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:44 amhow's that?sales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:43 am
fair enough chap, from what I've been offered so far agency are behind
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That was Arc I was on 16ph there 4-5 years agokirboxin.69 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:44 am12 ish is not greatsales+simply wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:44 amwell in felixstowe and stowmarket areas I was offered 12£ ish but from experience I tend to steer clear from agency now and not just the money..
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Not a f..king chances I tell f...k off and walk
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but unless you are involved in an incident… it cannot be viewed. Its not cctv, that can just be watched, not like your office staff have anything better to do than watch you all day. So what's the issue?Lebony.Xinn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:47 amI live in it week after week
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We have them in our tractor unit.. but I'm sure we signed a conformation that it is only viewable with driver and member of management in the event of an incident.
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It’s only illegal if they scroll through for no reason it’s there so if an incident happens they can check what you where doing at the time so if you don’t do anything wrong nothing to worry about
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And you never do “nothing wrong”?35_rdsemmi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:50 am It’s only illegal if they scroll through for no reason it’s there so if an incident happens they can check what you where doing at the time so if you don’t do anything wrong nothing to worry about
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of cause we don't we just like angels lolMalcoin.Vod wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:51 amAnd you never do “nothing wrong”?35_rdsemmi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:50 am It’s only illegal if they scroll through for no reason it’s there so if an incident happens they can check what you where doing at the time so if you don’t do anything wrong nothing to worry about
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
There was this one Angel, went a different way than all the others…iannichoJR wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:52 amof cause we don't we just like angels lolMalcoin.Vod wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:51 amAnd you never do “nothing wrong”?35_rdsemmi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:50 am It’s only illegal if they scroll through for no reason it’s there so if an incident happens they can check what you where doing at the time so if you don’t do anything wrong nothing to worry about
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
I try to drive to high standards I may make mistakes as I’m only human and as my license is my living no I don’t do anything wrong on purpose why do you ignore the rules and road lawsMalcoin.Vod wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:52 amThere was this one Angel, went a different way than all the others…
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
Still driving, on a clean license, after passing my test almost 40 years ago. So probably not doing that much wrong.35_rdsemmi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:53 amI try to drive to high standards I may make mistakes as I’m only human and as my license is my living no I don’t do anything wrong on purpose why do you ignore the rules and road lawsMalcoin.Vod wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:52 amThere was this one Angel, went a different way than all the others…
Just wondering when the Great British Trucker became such a corporate lamb.
Probably around the time Stobarts drivers started grassing each other up for not wearing a green tie.
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
but if you did do something wrong why would the company want evidence that's could go against them and leave their insurance liable for a claim35_rdsemmi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:50 am It’s only illegal if they scroll through for no reason it’s there so if an incident happens they can check what you where doing at the time so if you don’t do anything wrong nothing to worry about
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
It's in the contract where I work that they can install them. But we haven't got them yet
Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
Their lorry, their choice to fit them
As is your choice whether or not to drive it
As is your choice whether or not to drive it
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
No chance, never again…didn’t realize they came on with the ignition turned on, everyone seen me watching fake now
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
If I wanted watching 24/7 I'd get a job I a office or shop I chose this profession because of the solidarity. I don't want someone watching my every move
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
your office staff really don't have anything to do other than watch you drive around? I feel like the business may go under very soon if that's the case so you’ll need a new job anywayVicomnettAsp wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:00 am If I wanted watching 24/7 I'd get a job I a office or shop I chose this profession because of the solidarity. I don't want someone watching my every move
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
All trucks should have them in this day age no worries
Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
Got one in our work vans, they beep if not paying attention, warn you your speeding, and they take a photo every 2 mins, no sound recording, any harsh braking or stuff like that and they record, if you cover the cameras, they send an alert to head office,
‘Samsara camera’
I’ve covered the infrared with tape
‘Samsara camera’
I’ve covered the infrared with tape
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
Stop being a f@cking fairy and get on with it, if you do your job properly you have nothing to worry about
Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
Everyone has them after a day you forget they are there
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
you just get used to they office have better things to do than look at your willy
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
Is that what they tell you?DBCrossed wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:06 amyou just get used to they office have better things to do than look at your willy
What do you think they’re all giggling about, over there pointing at you?
That little tweezer finger & thumb thing they’re doing?
It isn’t what you think it is.
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
Unfortunately it's the norm these days, insurance will not insure unless they are fitted
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
Some of you would do well to know the difference between the law and company policy there is no law that says in cab cameras are a legal requirement however it can be company policy to fit the camera if you disagree with driving a unit with a camera you can tell the company. Company policy does not over ride the law so since there is no law on in cab cameras there is no legal action against you that can be taken if you cover or refuse to drive it. It’s the simple folks.
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
Is there a law that says your employer cannot fit a camera to their own property?Rich.Sublime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:09 am Some of you would do well to know the difference between the law and company policy there is no law that says in cab cameras are a legal requirement however it can be company policy to fit the camera if you disagree with driving a unit with a camera you can tell the company. Company policy does not over ride the law so since there is no law on in cab cameras there is no legal action against you that can be taken if you cover or refuse to drive it. It’s the simple folks.
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
nope there isn’trickercoLil wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:11 amIs there a law that says your employer cannot fit a camera to their own property?Rich.Sublime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:09 am Some of you would do well to know the difference between the law and company policy there is no law that says in cab cameras are a legal requirement however it can be company policy to fit the camera if you disagree with driving a unit with a camera you can tell the company. Company policy does not over ride the law so since there is no law on in cab cameras there is no legal action against you that can be taken if you cover or refuse to drive it. It’s the simple folks.
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
Lots of industries have employee facing cameras. I wouldn't like it. Leave if you don't agree with it.Rich.Sublime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:11 amnope there isn’trickercoLil wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:11 amIs there a law that says your employer cannot fit a camera to their own property?Rich.Sublime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:09 am Some of you would do well to know the difference between the law and company policy there is no law that says in cab cameras are a legal requirement however it can be company policy to fit the camera if you disagree with driving a unit with a camera you can tell the company. Company policy does not over ride the law so since there is no law on in cab cameras there is no legal action against you that can be taken if you cover or refuse to drive it. It’s the simple folks.
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Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
exactly but it’s not the law to have one fitted that’s all I’m sayingrickercoLil wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:12 amLots of industries have employee facing cameras. I wouldn't like it. Leave if you don't agree with it.Rich.Sublime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:11 amnope there isn’trickercoLil wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:11 am
Is there a law that says your employer cannot fit a camera to their own property?
Re: They gave me a unit with driver facing camera. Which I refused to drive. They argue that's it's legal to have driver
who said it was the law?Rich.Sublime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:12 amexactly but it’s not the law to have one fitted that’s all I’m sayingrickercoLil wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:12 amLots of industries have employee facing cameras. I wouldn't like it. Leave if you don't agree with it.
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