Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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Parkessi.Jo
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Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break 🤷 I always thought that if you work 6 hours or less no break was needed
Started my shift at 06:00 15 minute on other work then
Drove for 2 hours then stopped and put on poa for 3 hours as waiting. Then did 1 hour of other work and then drove for 2 hours back to the yard did 30 minutes other work and finished at 14:45 how much break was required?
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YouNotice wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:06 am 15 minutes for WTD
no break needed he's only worked 5.45
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POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
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trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
I thought the first 45 counted as break I never use poa so I'm not 100% sure on that ?
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Post by davement51 »

burnsen wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
I thought the first 45 counted as break I never use poa so I'm not 100% sure on that ?
only when double manned..
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Post by arjo.bosco »

burnsen wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
I thought the first 45 counted as break I never use poa so I'm not 100% sure on that ?
resets driving hours only does not count as break you need 30 min minimum
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Post by burnsen »

arjo.bosco wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:08 am
burnsen wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
I thought the first 45 counted as break I never use poa so I'm not 100% sure on that ?
resets driving hours only does not count as break you need 30 min minimum
oh I see thanks for the info I just never us poa ha
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burnsen wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
I thought the first 45 counted as break I never use poa so I'm not 100% sure on that ?
only on double manning as far as I'm aware mate. The tacho will register it as a break but it won't stand on a roadside stop by DVSA.
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burnsen wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
I thought the first 45 counted as break I never use poa so I'm not 100% sure on that ?
only if your double maned you should have had 1/2hr break
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Post by 891.hellieca »

burnsen wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
I thought the first 45 counted as break I never use poa so I'm not 100% sure on that ?
only in slot 2
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Post by 93kevission »

trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
wrong. Yes, POA does not count as break, but it also doesn’t count as work.
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93kevission wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:12 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
wrong. Yes, POA does not count as break, but it also doesn’t count as work.
I meant to say the computer thinks you’ve worked 8:45 without a break
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Post by jamexxli »

trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:12 am
93kevission wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:12 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
wrong. Yes, POA does not count as break, but it also doesn’t count as work.
I meant to say the computer thinks you’ve worked 8:45 without a break
computer won't think that he has worked 8 hours it will think 5:45
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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jamexxli wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:13 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:12 am
93kevission wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:12 am

wrong. Yes, POA does not count as break, but it also doesn’t count as work.
I meant to say the computer thinks you’ve worked 8:45 without a break
computer won't think that he has worked 8 hours it will think 5:45
so why did it give an infringement?
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Post by chare-jung »

trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:13 am
jamexxli wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:13 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:12 am

I meant to say the computer thinks you’ve worked 8:45 without a break
computer won't think that he has worked 8 hours it will think 5:45
so why did it give an infringement?
we need to see a printout really, something isn’t right
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Post by chare-jung »

trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
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chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
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Post by davement51 »

AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
poa doesn't count towards working hrs..
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Post by Seanza »

AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
POA doesn’t count towards working hours.
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davement51 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:17 am
AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am

he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
poa doesn't count towards working hrs..
no I didn't word that right as still trying to get my head around the rules with poa but also doesn't count to break either hence the infringement?
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AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
he has been at work for 8h45m but only working for 5h45m so doesn’t need a break. POA doesn’t count as working time
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Post by AmaraBesT »

chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:19 am
AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am

he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
he has been at work for 8h45m but only working for 5h45m so doesn’t need a break. POA doesn’t count as working time
doesn't count to break either though?
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AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
it’s brother working time not break. On that basis the working period is only 5hr45 so no break required.
When double manned (so long as you are completing no other work) the first 45 will count itself as break and reset driving hours.
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Post by AmaraBesT »

chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:19 am
AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am

he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
he has been at work for 8h45m but only working for 5h45m so doesn’t need a break. POA doesn’t count as working time
poa still scrambles my brain tbh so if the logic you say being correct I can't understand why he'd get an infringement. Very odd.
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Post by whell.moore »

AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:22 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:19 am
AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am

from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
he has been at work for 8h45m but only working for 5h45m so doesn’t need a break. POA doesn’t count as working time
poa still scrambles my brain tbh so if the logic you say being correct I can't understand why he'd get an infringement. Very odd.
same Reason I said on the other post. Because his times are wrong. The computer doesn’t lie. Plain black and white. His events don’t match reality.
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AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
poa doesn't count as work or break. Poa is available to work but not working to be honest it's best to use other work or break
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AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
doesn’t matter Amara POA stops there your working time clock so it’s correct what others have said he’s only worked 5:45
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chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
but it doesnt count as a break either. Needed 15 mins at 1300 hrs.
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chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
just curious then why did he get one ?????
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vicphon wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:28 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
just curious then why did he get one ?????
that’s a good question. In my opinion, either he hasn’t given us exactly the right times, there’s an issue with the companies tacho analysis software or he’s just on the wind up. Without seeing a printout and the infringement then there’s no way of knowing.
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AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
poa is a pause in your working time so if you work 2hrs and then poa for 3hrs then work another 2hrs you have worked 4hrs and poa has paused the time time in between. You are paid for this time but it is not registered as work.
If you drive for 2.5hrs then poa for 45min It will reset your drive time but if you drive for longer than 2hrs without taking a break you will get an infringement as it was paused on poa not a break.
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AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
poa does not count too working hours when you put it on poa it stops the clock but doesn't count as break
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AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:14 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
he hasn’t worked 8:45 without a break, he’s worked 5:45, he doesn’t need a break. No infringement here as long as the times he’s given us are exact
from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
it doesn't but he still only done 5hrs45 work so wouldn't need a break
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trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
I’ve been told POA pushes back, or stretches the wtd period, so the 3 hour POA is excluded, and extends the 6 hour time period rule. <But that I should have a break within the POA for my own safety etc etc>.
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NiKaven wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:31 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
I’ve been told POA pushes back, or stretches the wtd period, so the 3 hour POA is excluded, and extends the 6 hour time period rule. <But that I should have a break within the POA for my own safety etc etc>.
correct it stops the clock
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trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
POA effectively pauses your work time so only 5:45 worked here.
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moydi2020 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:35 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
POA effectively pauses your work time so only 5:45 worked here.
paused he’s work time, but didn’t paused his availability to work. So at the end of the day he spend 8:45 at work without taking any break.
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LASZOWERON wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:41 am
moydi2020 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:35 am
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
POA effectively pauses your work time so only 5:45 worked here.
paused he’s work time, but didn’t paused his availability to work. So at the end of the day he spend 8:45 at work without taking any break.
I don't need to explain its simple
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:22 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:19 am
AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am

from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
he has been at work for 8h45m but only working for 5h45m so doesn’t need a break. POA doesn’t count as working time
poa still scrambles my brain tbh so if the logic you say being correct I can't understand why he'd get an infringement. Very odd.
no it doesn’t. But he doesn’t need a break because he hasn’t worked more than 6hrs. POA is a period of availability, it doesn’t go towards working time
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:47 am
AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:22 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:19 am

he has been at work for 8h45m but only working for 5h45m so doesn’t need a break. POA doesn’t count as working time
poa still scrambles my brain tbh so if the logic you say being correct I can't understand why he'd get an infringement. Very odd.
no it doesn’t. But he doesn’t need a break because he hasn’t worked more than 6hrs. POA is a period of availability, it doesn’t go towards working time
poa doesn't count as break for wtd as on poa you aren't technically able to dispose of your time freely as in the definition of a working break so he would of needed at least 15 mins before 6 hours from start of shift
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

Post by chare-jung »

GINGEST.08 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:53 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:47 am
AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:22 am

poa still scrambles my brain tbh so if the logic you say being correct I can't understand why he'd get an infringement. Very odd.
no it doesn’t. But he doesn’t need a break because he hasn’t worked more than 6hrs. POA is a period of availability, it doesn’t go towards working time
poa doesn't count as break for wtd as on poa you aren't technically able to dispose of your time freely as in the definition of a working break so he would of needed at least 15 mins before 6 hours from start of shift
you’re right in the fact that POA doesn’t count as break, but he doesn’t need a break because he hasn’t reached 6hrs working time or 4.5hrs driving time
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:53 am
GINGEST.08 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:53 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:47 am

no it doesn’t. But he doesn’t need a break because he hasn’t worked more than 6hrs. POA is a period of availability, it doesn’t go towards working time
poa doesn't count as break for wtd as on poa you aren't technically able to dispose of your time freely as in the definition of a working break so he would of needed at least 15 mins before 6 hours from start of shift
you’re right in the fact that POA doesn’t count as break, but he doesn’t need a break because he hasn’t reached 6hrs working time or 4.5hrs driving time
but he hasn't had a break within 6 hours of the start of shift regardless of other work or poa
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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GINGEST.08 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:54 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:53 am
GINGEST.08 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:53 am

poa doesn't count as break for wtd as on poa you aren't technically able to dispose of your time freely as in the definition of a working break so he would of needed at least 15 mins before 6 hours from start of shift
you’re right in the fact that POA doesn’t count as break, but he doesn’t need a break because he hasn’t reached 6hrs working time or 4.5hrs driving time
but he hasn't had a break within 6 hours of the start of shift regardless of other work or poa
that’s right, because he doesn’t need one as he hasn’t had 6hrs working time or driven 4 1/2hrs
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:54 am
GINGEST.08 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:54 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:53 am

you’re right in the fact that POA doesn’t count as break, but he doesn’t need a break because he hasn’t reached 6hrs working time or 4.5hrs driving time
but he hasn't had a break within 6 hours of the start of shift regardless of other work or poa
that’s right, because he doesn’t need one as he hasn’t had 6hrs working time or driven 4 1/2hrs
if you start work at 6am drive for 3 hrs then pop for 4 hours you have to by law have shown at least a 15 mins by 12pm or you will get infringements regardless of the fact you was on poa and not working as poa is not freely disposing of o es time it sucks but the law is the law
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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GINGEST.08 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:55 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:54 am
GINGEST.08 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:54 am

but he hasn't had a break within 6 hours of the start of shift regardless of other work or poa
that’s right, because he doesn’t need one as he hasn’t had 6hrs working time or driven 4 1/2hrs
if you start work at 6am drive for 3 hrs then pop for 4 hours you have to by law have shown at least a 15 mins by 12pm or you will get infringements regardless of the fact you was on poa and not working as poa is not freely disposing of o es time it sucks but the law is the law
no you don’t. POA isn’t working time so any POA extends the time required before you need a break. In this example he started at 6am, did a mix of other work, driving plus 3hrs of POA, so the 3hrs of POA means he doesn’t need to take a break until 3pm. Similarly, if he’d had a mix of other work and driving, but had 10 minutes of break, he wouldn’t need a working time break until 12:10, the 10 minute break extends the time until he needs a working time break but doesn’t count as a working time break itself because they need to be of at least 15 minutes.
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:55 am
GINGEST.08 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:55 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:54 am

that’s right, because he doesn’t need one as he hasn’t had 6hrs working time or driven 4 1/2hrs
if you start work at 6am drive for 3 hrs then pop for 4 hours you have to by law have shown at least a 15 mins by 12pm or you will get infringements regardless of the fact you was on poa and not working as poa is not freely disposing of o es time it sucks but the law is the law
no you don’t. POA isn’t working time so any POA extends the time required before you need a break. In this example he started at 6am, did a mix of other work, driving plus 3hrs of POA, so the 3hrs of POA means he doesn’t need to take a break until 3pm. Similarly, if he’d had a mix of other work and driving, but had 10 minutes of break, he wouldn’t need a working time break until 12:10, the 10 minute break extends the time until he needs a working time break but doesn’t count as a working time break itself because they need to be of at least 15 minutes.
then why do you get infringements when on poa and not recording a break within 6 hours of start of shift doesn't that tell you your wrong
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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GINGEST.08 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:56 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:55 am
GINGEST.08 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:55 am

if you start work at 6am drive for 3 hrs then pop for 4 hours you have to by law have shown at least a 15 mins by 12pm or you will get infringements regardless of the fact you was on poa and not working as poa is not freely disposing of o es time it sucks but the law is the law
no you don’t. POA isn’t working time so any POA extends the time required before you need a break. In this example he started at 6am, did a mix of other work, driving plus 3hrs of POA, so the 3hrs of POA means he doesn’t need to take a break until 3pm. Similarly, if he’d had a mix of other work and driving, but had 10 minutes of break, he wouldn’t need a working time break until 12:10, the 10 minute break extends the time until he needs a working time break but doesn’t count as a working time break itself because they need to be of at least 15 minutes.
then why do you get infringements when on poa and not recording a break within 6 hours of start of shift doesn't that tell you your wrong
he shouldn’t have had an infringement, that’s why he has refused to sign it and escalated it to higher management.
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:22 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:19 am
AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:15 am

from 0600 to 1445 how is that only 5hrs 45. Poa doesn't count to break but counts towards working hours total does it not, tbh i struggle with poa and never use it?? So he did need a break. 15mins I believe as it was over 6hrs but less than 9?
he has been at work for 8h45m but only working for 5h45m so doesn’t need a break. POA doesn’t count as working time
poa still scrambles my brain tbh so if the logic you say being correct I can't understand why he'd get an infringement. Very odd.
it confuses many people, that’s why a lot won’t use it. I can’t see why he would have an infringement, really we need to see a printout to help understand that
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:57 am
AmaraBesT wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:22 am
chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:19 am

he has been at work for 8h45m but only working for 5h45m so doesn’t need a break. POA doesn’t count as working time
poa still scrambles my brain tbh so if the logic you say being correct I can't understand why he'd get an infringement. Very odd.
it confuses many people, that’s why a lot won’t use it. I can’t see why he would have an infringement, really we need to see a printout to help understand that
yeah print out would indeed help. Glad I'm not the only one it confuses then. 🤣 one day with more experience I might get there
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
More like the software as been altered to require the break to be taken in the first 6 hrs ie company policy and as usual no one tells the drivers. I’d refuse to sign it if that’s the case.
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
no it won't
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
no it won't
so why the infringement?
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
no it won't
but it’s the working time directive, not the shift time directive!
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
no it won't
well what is written there is total bollocks!!
If you think you can teach me anything about the wtd or drivers hours don’t bother!
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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Peteines wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:25 pm
AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
no it won't
well what is written there is total bollocks!!
If you think you can teach me anything about the wtd or drivers hours don’t bother!
you’re wasting your time there mate. I’ve told him on another comment that the text he has shared isn’t the correct wording and is likely to confuse, which it has done in his case
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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Peteines wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:23 pm
AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
no it won't
but it’s the working time directive, not the shift time directive!
oh dear, oh dear, he’s just told me he’s a driver trainer 🤣
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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chare-jung wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:26 pm
Peteines wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:25 pm
AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm

no it won't
well what is written there is total bollocks!!
If you think you can teach me anything about the wtd or drivers hours don’t bother!
you’re wasting your time there mate. I’ve told him on another comment that the text he has shared isn’t the correct wording and is likely to confuse, which it has done in his case
that just about tops it off then, what hope do drivers have when the person training them is feeding them bullsh*t?!
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
no it won't
where you get that from ! It's wrong.
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:21 pm
AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
no it won't
so why the infringement?
because he has done something wrong perhaps
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
no it won't
You've made a right fool of yourself.
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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Peteines wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:25 pm
AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
no it won't
well what is written there is total bollocks!!
If you think you can teach me anything about the wtd or drivers hours don’t bother!
I see AbbNess has chosen a battle of the wits with you but he arrived unarmed.
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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jeandspo wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:30 pm
Peteines wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:25 pm
AbbNess wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:01 pm

no it won't
well what is written there is total bollocks!!
If you think you can teach me anything about the wtd or drivers hours don’t bother!
I see AbbNess has chosen a battle of the wits with you but he arrived unarmed.
You've found the thread then 👍
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Jrba wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:31 pm
jeandspo wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:30 pm
Peteines wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:25 pm

well what is written there is total bollocks!!
If you think you can teach me anything about the wtd or drivers hours don’t bother!
I see AbbNess has chosen a battle of the wits with you but he arrived unarmed.
You've found the thread then 👍
I can’t believe he’s supposed to be a driver trainer
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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jeandspo wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:32 pm
Jrba wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:31 pm
jeandspo wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:30 pm

I see AbbNess has chosen a battle of the wits with you but he arrived unarmed.
You've found the thread then 👍
I can’t believe he’s supposed to be a driver trainer
Unbelievable.
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Jrba wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:32 pm
jeandspo wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:32 pm
Jrba wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:31 pm

You've found the thread then 👍
I can’t believe he’s supposed to be a driver trainer
Unbelievable.
wtd the gift that keeps on giving
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
poa also doesn't count as work either. This is clearly a fishing post and it's obviously exposed a lot of people with no idea what they are talking about
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
I’m so glad I’m out of this sh*t now
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trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
poa stops the clock but doesn't count as break
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joemond wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:36 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
poa stops the clock but doesn't count as break
it is a break. If on POA you are available to work but on break.
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LindKino wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:36 pm
joemond wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:36 pm
trewayerJigg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:07 am POA doesn’t count as break. You worked 8:45 without a break is what the analysis software will think.
poa stops the clock but doesn't count as break
it is a break. If on POA you are available to work but on break.
its not a break its a period of availability it is not a break a break is rest poa is not rest
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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joemond wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:37 pm
LindKino wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:36 pm
joemond wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:36 pm

poa stops the clock but doesn't count as break
it is a break. If on POA you are available to work but on break.
its not a break its a period of availability it is not a break a break is rest poa is not rest
It counts as break in your tacho. POA doesnt go on driving or wtd its resting.
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Re: Sorry if a stupid question but I got an infringement for insufficient break I always thought that if you work 6 hour

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LindKino wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:38 pm
joemond wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:37 pm
LindKino wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:36 pm

it is a break. If on POA you are available to work but on break.
its not a break its a period of availability it is not a break a break is rest poa is not rest
It counts as break in your tacho. POA doesnt go on driving or wtd its resting.
no it doesn't lol you need too do ur research it will clear ur break but doesn't count as a break 🤣
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LindKino wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:38 pm
joemond wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:37 pm
LindKino wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:36 pm

it is a break. If on POA you are available to work but on break.
its not a break its a period of availability it is not a break a break is rest poa is not rest
It counts as break in your tacho. POA doesnt go on driving or wtd its resting.
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joemond wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:39 pm
LindKino wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:38 pm
joemond wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:37 pm

its not a break its a period of availability it is not a break a break is rest poa is not rest
It counts as break in your tacho. POA doesnt go on driving or wtd its resting.
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