Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
Got this with a driver.
Start 06.00 finish 21.00.
Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
Start 06.00 finish 21.00.
Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
Full rest as 11 hours since last duty and 26 hours since last one started.
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
9 hrs as his/her day started at 06:00 and within a 24 hr period he/she has only accrued 9 hrs continuous rest. The 08:00 start for the next day is the new start time for his /her next 24 hr period.
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
By law 9 hours rest in a 24 hours day ( reduced break ) !?!?!!!!!!!!!!! D:))))
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
apparently saying that it's a break is wrong.
It's rest!
That is due to the syndrome:
I can barely speak my language
I've made some friends around here because they can't cope with the fact the there are people who speak multiple languages and sometimes you get some translation habits.
Pauza instead of perioada de odihna.
Prosti rau bai baiete!
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
My personal opinion is that 15 hour days should be scrapped altogether.
12 hours should be the maximum. In no other industry is a 15 hour day the norm.
12 hours should be the maximum. In no other industry is a 15 hour day the norm.
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
Depends on what you are asking. He’s been on rest for 11hrs if we just count hrs spent on rest. But legally it’s still a reduced (9hr) if he worked for 15hrs good luck with explaining it to some drivers though.
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
He’s had a reduced daily rest of 9 hrs as the 8.00 start next morning is irrelevant, it’s the 24 hr period 06.00-06.00 that counts
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
9 hrs under 24 hr rule. Irrespective of physical rest period actually taken
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
Forget 9s and 15s etc.
Its a reduced daily rest because his shift exceeded 13 hrs. Thats all their is to know.
Its a reduced daily rest because his shift exceeded 13 hrs. Thats all their is to know.
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
bingo, but not everyone understands that.mbroadstreet wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:36 am Forget 9s and 15s etc.
Its a reduced daily rest because his shift exceeded 13 hrs. Thats all their is to know.
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
well there is more to it if he done a split rest then its a full 12hrs restmbroadstreet wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:36 am Forget 9s and 15s etc.
Its a reduced daily rest because his shift exceeded 13 hrs. Thats all their is to know.
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
fair enough, if a split daily rest after a 15 hour shift, the 9 hour rest doesn't count as one of the three reductions (below 11 hours) permitted during a working week.mbroadstreet wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:36 am Forget 9s and 15s etc.
Its a reduced daily rest because his shift exceeded 13 hrs. Thats all their is to know.
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
don't see a problem with it every day as they are having 2 rests per day, but that's my personal viewHartenheer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:40 am yep split daily rest is counted as a regular rest so no issue. Wouldn’t do that 5 days a week or recommend it to anyone but as far as regulation goes its legal.
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
container work, spending many hours resting whilst the box is tipped by hand, is the perfect type of driving work lending itself well to split daily rest (near enough 15 hour spread) on every shift of the working week.Hartenheer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:41 am like i said wouldn’t do it myself but won’t trash anyone for doing it. Some ppl get more rest at work then at home
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
and most of the time aren't actually free to dispose of their time as they want..so not legally on rest.
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
absolutely very common thing on container
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
as long as they allowed to leave company premisses it can be can be classed as a rest. But you are right often this rule is misused to get more work done.bmchenrync wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:42 am and most of the time aren't actually free to dispose of their time as they want..so not legally on rest.
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
nfortunately, in the eyes of the law when taking daily rest according to the split rules, they are legally on rest.bmchenrync wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:42 am and most of the time aren't actually free to dispose of their time as they want..so not legally on rest.
I agree with what you state however, as on occasion I am sure that there are drivers who "tip / work on break" (during the 3 hour rest / break period).
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
Ah but must have access to a bunk or couchette to qualify for split daily rest.robtig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:44 am nfortunately, in the eyes of the law when taking daily rest according to the split rules, they are legally on rest.
I agree with what you state however, as on occasion I am sure that there are drivers who "tip / work on break" (during the 3 hour rest / break period).
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
you stated (in response to my comment) "you can have split daily rest every day" which implies that I didn't know that.
I pointed out that I knew that and questioned why you might think I didn't by asking "where did I state you couldn't ? (have a reduced daily rest every day).
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
unfortunately in the eye's of the law if not able to freely dispose of their time as they see fit then not on rest legally.robtig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:44 am nfortunately, in the eyes of the law when taking daily rest according to the split rules, they are legally on rest.
I agree with what you state however, as on occasion I am sure that there are drivers who "tip / work on break" (during the 3 hour rest / break period).
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
Depends what driver did throughout the day. It’s possible to have a 3 hour rest mid shift then it would count as a full daily rest
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
9 - once you go over 13 hours it is a reduced - unless has had a split rest
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
He's had 11 hours off but still counts as a reduced daily rest of 9 hours in the 24 hour period.
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
Every shift over 13h is considered as reduced daily rest my friend (y)
Unless it's split rest of course.
Unless it's split rest of course.
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
The 24 hour period starts when the driver puts his card in. In this case tacho wise is 9 hour rest, with an 0800 start the next day giving him the option to stay in bed a couple of extra hours…
Make him start at 0600 and clean the wagon for 2 hours! Lol
Make him start at 0600 and clean the wagon for 2 hours! Lol
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
9 hours rest. Daily rest must be completed within 24 hours of duty starting. Regardless of what time his next duty starts he has only had 9 hours rest within this 24 hour period.
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
11 hours unless he’s taken a rest in a split shift of at least 3 hours. In which case he didn’t need to take 11 hours rest.
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Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
9 hours reduced rest as the rest has to be taken in the 24 hour duty period, so they started at 06.00 therefore that duty period end at 06.00 the next day , 06.00 to 08.00 is non working time
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
Why complicate matters, there are 3 hours left in days 1, add on the hours in day 2 before start of next shift ,i.e. 8 hours, so 3 plus 8 =11....simples
Re: Got this with a driver. Start 06.00 finish 21.00. Start next day 08.00, how much daily rest has the said driver had.
9 hours daily rest, as it has to be calculated in the 24 hour period that commenced at 0600.
Driver has used up one of their three permitted daily rest reductions (below 11 hours) during their WORKING WEEK (not fixed week).
Driver has used up one of their three permitted daily rest reductions (below 11 hours) during their WORKING WEEK (not fixed week).
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