How many drivers that use Dover know that from this March the coach bays on the way in we used as change over. Will

[DherekJoJon]

How many drivers that use Dover know that from this March the coach bays on the way in we used as change over. Will be taken away for good.

[henriee124]

Who cares?

[DherekJoJon]

Who cares?

we who use Dover and need to change over drivers and if you need to pick up passengers that is who cares.

[henriee124]

Who cares?

we who use Dover and need to change over drivers and if you need to pick up passengers that is who cares.

Port of Dover dont care, the UK Govt dont care, the travel industry dont care....
Just get over it Del and change over and pick up elsewhere. Its not rocket science

[murrayimFox]

Who cares?

we who use Dover and need to change over drivers and if you need to pick up passengers that is who cares.

not the drivers concern its the companies problem!

[murrayimFox]

Who cares?

we who use Dover and need to change over drivers and if you need to pick up passengers that is who cares.

All the drivers who pull their card in Calais after running out of hours then drive off into Dover docks to change over might have a problem!

[DherekJoJon]

Who cares?

we who use Dover and need to change over drivers and if you need to pick up passengers that is who cares.

Port of Dover dont care, the UK Govt dont care, the travel industry dont care....
Just get over it Del and change over and pick up elsewhere. Its not rocket science

it's Dherek not del never has been and never will be.

[henriee124]

we who use Dover and need to change over drivers and if you need to pick up passengers that is who cares.

Port of Dover dont care, the UK Govt dont care, the travel industry dont care....
Just get over it Del and change over and pick up elsewhere. Its not rocket science

it's Dherek not del never has been and never will be.

ok Del Boy, message received

[DherekJoJon]

Port of Dover dont care, the UK Govt dont care, the travel industry dont care....
Just get over it Del and change over and pick up elsewhere. Its not rocket science

it's Dherek not del never has been and never will be.

ok Del Boy, message received

[henriee124]

it's Dherek not del never has been and never will be.

ok Del Boy, message received

ooh Del, getting tetchy in your old age

[Simex1448]

ok Del Boy, message received

ooh Del, getting tetchy in your old age

the coaches that swap drivers at the port.

[henriee124]

ooh Del, getting tetchy in your old age

the coaches that swap drivers at the port.

well, they will have to do elsewhere, like many have done for years to avoid cars at the docks.
Its really not a problem.

[227.geollex]

Will have to block the road while changing drivers

[COLINZERP]

Will have to block the road while changing drivers

do it on the move down the motorway, through the sunroof.

[227.geollex]

Will have to block the road while changing drivers

do it on the move down the motorway, through the sunroof.

I believe some people have changed drivers on the move but not through the some roof?

[COLINZERP]

Will have to block the road while changing drivers

do it on the move down the motorway, through the sunroof.

I believe some people have changed drivers on the move but not through the some roof?

it may happen now ...
No alternative

[DherekJoJon]

Will have to block the road while changing drivers

As always there is a lot of stupid people on here who don't have a clue what they are talking about i thought this was a place for coach drivers to try and help each other out etc. not to post silly remarks and take the piss.

[227.geollex]

Will have to block the road while changing drivers

As always there is a lot of stupid people on here who don't have a clue what they are talking about i thought this was a place for coach drivers to try and help each other out etc. not to post silly remarks and take the piss.

You are right Dherek, some people can't help but come with silly answers, I wished if they can't help then they shouldn't make any comments

[leedUnison]

It’ll make it easier for DVSA to see which drivers drive down to Dover in a car (illegally) to then drive coach abroad

[henriee124]

It’ll make it easier for DVSA to see which drivers drive down to Dover in a car (illegally) to then drive coach abroad

is it illegal to drive to Dover in a car then?

[leedUnison]

It’ll make it easier for DVSA to see which drivers drive down to Dover in a car (illegally) to then drive coach abroad

is it illegal to drive to Dover in a car then?

.. it is when your coming from somewhere like Newcastle then driving to Barcelona.. see it all the time

[henriee124]

It’ll make it easier for DVSA to see which drivers drive down to Dover in a car (illegally) to then drive coach abroad

is it illegal to drive to Dover in a car then?

.. it is when your coming from somewhere like Newcastle then driving to Barcelona.. see it all the time

how come? Do you mean not taking any rest before driving the coach onto the ferry?

[COLINZERP]

is it illegal to drive to Dover in a car then?

.. it is when your coming from somewhere like Newcastle then driving to Barcelona.. see it all the time

how come? Do you mean not taking any rest before driving the coach onto the ferry?

officially you cant drive a "company" car as you are on the clock.
Bit different to driving your own to get to work.

[henriee124]

.. it is when your coming from somewhere like Newcastle then driving to Barcelona.. see it all the time

how come? Do you mean not taking any rest before driving the coach onto the ferry?

officially you cant drive a "company" car as you are on the clock.
Bit different to driving your own to get to work.

hmmm. What if i do things legally and record the car driving on my digi card by manual entry?

[COLINZERP]

how come? Do you mean not taking any rest before driving the coach onto the ferry?

officially you cant drive a "company" car as you are on the clock.
Bit different to driving your own to get to work.

hmmm. What if i do things legally and record the car driving on my digi card by manual entry?

its not about driving as a car doesn't cone under driving rules, its your daily hours that a lot of people would fall foul of

[henriee124]

officially you cant drive a "company" car as you are on the clock.
Bit different to driving your own to get to work.

hmmm. What if i do things legally and record the car driving on my digi card by manual entry?

its not about driving as a car doesn't cone under driving rules, its your daily hours that a lot of people would fall foul of

oh dear, driving anything will come under "the rules"

[COLINZERP]

hmmm. What if i do things legally and record the car driving on my digi card by manual entry?

its not about driving as a car doesn't cone under driving rules, its your daily hours that a lot of people would fall foul of

oh dear, driving anything will come under "the rules"

Working Hours nir driving hours

[henriee124]

its not about driving as a car doesn't cone under driving rules, its your daily hours that a lot of people would fall foul of

oh dear, driving anything will come under "the rules"

Working Hours nir driving hours

it still needs to go on a digital tachograph card...

[COLINZERP]

oh dear, driving anything will come under "the rules"

Working Hours nir driving hours

it still needs to go on a digital tachograph card...

how can you put it on a digital tachograph card if a car doesnebt have a tachograph
Cat B vehicle (car) do not come under tacho rules, however you are technically working so your working hours count.

[henriee124]

Working Hours nir driving hours

it still needs to go on a digital tachograph card...

how can you put it on a digital tachograph card if a car doesnebt have a tachograph
Cat B vehicle (car) do not come under tacho rules, however you are technically working so your working hours count.

oh dear, you are so, so wrong....
Are you an experienced coach driver?

[COLINZERP]

it still needs to go on a digital tachograph card...

how can you put it on a digital tachograph card if a car doesnebt have a tachograph
Cat B vehicle (car) do not come under tacho rules, however you are technically working so your working hours count.

oh dear, you are so, so wrong....
Are you an experienced coach driver?

so where is the tacho in your car , and how do you record driving your car in your tacho .....

I can't wait for the answer ...

[henriee124]

how can you put it on a digital tachograph card if a car doesnebt have a tachograph
Cat B vehicle (car) do not come under tacho rules, however you are technically working so your working hours count.

oh dear, you are so, so wrong....
Are you an experienced coach driver?

so where is the tacho in your car , and how do you record driving your car in your tacho .....

I can't wait for the answer ...

its called a manual entry, its the law.
Everything you do as a professional coach driver needs recording on the drivers card.
You may not like that fact, but hey ho , thats the rules

[COLINZERP]

oh dear, you are so, so wrong....
Are you an experienced coach driver?

so where is the tacho in your car , and how do you record driving your car in your tacho .....

I can't wait for the answer ...

its called a manual entry, its the law.
Everything you do as a professional coach driver needs recording on the drivers card.
You may not like that fact, but hey ho , thats the rules

where have I said it doesn't need recording and that I don't like it?? I haven't!!!
But, in reply to your last comment as far as I am aware you can't enter driving periods on a manual entry, you can only enter other duties, POA and rest.
Therefore for two reasons, the above and its a Cat B vehicle (not in Tacho Scope) you wouldn't enter it as as I said before it would then come under Working Hours Regulations not Driving Hours Regulations.
Thats the rules, as you say.

[henriee124]

so where is the tacho in your car , and how do you record driving your car in your tacho .....

I can't wait for the answer ...

its called a manual entry, its the law.
Everything you do as a professional coach driver needs recording on the drivers card.
You may not like that fact, but hey ho , thats the rules

where have I said it doesn't need recording and that I don't like it?? I haven't!!!
But, in reply to your last comment as far as I am aware you can't enter driving periods on a manual entry, you can only enter other duties, POA and rest.
Therefore for two reasons, the above and its a Cat B vehicle (not in Tacho Scope) you wouldn't enter it as as I said before it would then come under Working Hours Regulations not Driving Hours Regulations.
Thats the rules, as you say.

driving a car or van etc etc which comes the EU rules as we are talking about EU rules here, has to be entered as "Other Work" on a digicard.
You also have to make a manual entry for holidays and sick days....

[Iorifect]

It’ll make it easier for DVSA to see which drivers drive down to Dover in a car (illegally) to then drive coach abroad

so you cannot sleep in a hotel in Folkestone and drive a car to Dover? Interesting. Must hitchike

[leedUnison]

It’ll make it easier for DVSA to see which drivers drive down to Dover in a car (illegally) to then drive coach abroad

so you cannot sleep in a hotel in Folkestone and drive a car to Dover? Interesting. Must hitchike

you know exactly what I mean ..

[henriee124]

It’ll make it easier for DVSA to see which drivers drive down to Dover in a car (illegally) to then drive coach abroad

so you cannot sleep in a hotel in Folkestone and drive a car to Dover? Interesting. Must hitchike

you know exactly what I mean ..

you are not making it very clear though....
Why not have a other bash at it

[henriee124]

It’ll make it easier for DVSA to see which drivers drive down to Dover in a car (illegally) to then drive coach abroad

so you cannot sleep in a hotel in Folkestone and drive a car to Dover? Interesting. Must hitchike

what do you make of Colinzerp viewpoints Iorifect?

[COLINZERP]

It’ll make it easier for DVSA to see which drivers drive down to Dover in a car (illegally) to then drive coach abroad

how will it make it easier??
Having everyone change at Dover is easier for them as they could just pull everyone who meets a coach in a car and see what they can gleam out of them.
This was there could be numerous places for driver swaps.

[fras3ronco]

A lot of drivers going to run out of hours because of it,
Glad I don’t do that work now

[COLINZERP]

A lot of drivers going to run out of hours because of it,
Glad I don’t do that work now

20 mins extra?

[dunnixioMR]

Where have you heard that? Looks like it's gonna be busy at stop24

[alannoGOT]

Where have you heard that? Looks like it's gonna be busy at stop24

an e mail was sent out last week to lots of operators regarding this

[dunnixioMR]

Where have you heard that? Looks like it's gonna be busy at stop24

an e mail was sent out last week to lots of operators regarding this

fair play, I'm freelance and not back on road till end of march

[COLINZERP]

Where have you heard that? Looks like it's gonna be busy at stop24

was in an article today, cant remember where read it though

[lemunde]

Not my concern any more....don't go over the water anymore

[674.rogeriss]

Do changeover at dover railway stn

[farishipXp]

Stop on the way in somewhere instead

[Brainstorm]

Heater

[Lynnon]

,,,

[PpaulAce]

Stop 24 change over better and easier

[DivDaviee]

Change over premier in no drama

[RonnFFoller]

With all these questions and answers it seems like it’s all stage carriage drivers going over the water !!

[gille7cart]

Dover Castle change over. Job done

[Ricc.Infamous]

I would be now concerned about the upcoming passport, fingerprint and facial recognition checks in October, along with the new and additional cost and faff with ETIAS from next year

[COLINZERP]

I would be now concerned about the upcoming passport, fingerprint and facial recognition checks in October, along with the new and additional cost and faff with ETIAS from next year

if it actually comes in on time or ever.

[Ricc.Infamous]

I would be now concerned about the upcoming passport, fingerprint and facial recognition checks in October, along with the new and additional cost and faff with ETIAS from next year

if it actually comes in on time or ever.

very true lol...watch this space I guess!

[KEINTRINP341]

I thought it was only temporary while they make improvements to the port

[nals9hosy]

Been planned for a long time. Just use Stop 24 on M20

[Mattener]

Well aware as they started this last month. Absolutely crap especially for drivers hours.
Change over options are now calais or stop 24.