What are everyone’s thought? yes I know service drivers get more. Id just like to make a point that I guess has been

[DerexTeffo]

Part of the problem in the coach industry is that when bookings are not coming in consistently drivers still need to be paid for “down time”. When the wheels aren’t turning drivers still get paid even though they are not driving and generating revenue. You don’t get down time working in supermarkets. Those tills workers and shelf stackers are like robots and never seem to stop for a second. I know which job I would prefer

[Dayxana]

Then if you've been in the industry that long you know the pay is not great but made up with optionals, tips and drinks sold .........

That's is the sort of daft comment that probably keeps employers thinking they can pay rubbish.

So you think a comment keeps it low, started in 84 finished in 2002 so I know it's always been low and comments won't change anything.

Regarding tips and bungs as making up wages is silly.

[simoncu56]

That's is the sort of daft comment that probably keeps employers thinking they can pay rubbish.

So you think a comment keeps it low, started in 84 finished in 2002 so I know it's always been low and comments won't change anything.

Regarding tips and bungs as making up wages is silly.

how about paying to not share a room?

[LloydenDun]

That's is the sort of daft comment that probably keeps employers thinking they can pay rubbish.

So you think a comment keeps it low, started in 84 finished in 2002 so I know it's always been low and comments won't change anything.

Regarding tips and bungs as making up wages is silly.

so they pay decent wage and take the optionals and tips and don't say they won't as I worked for well known holiday companies and at one time the optionals were the drivers then it changed and drivers only got a small percentage

[Dayxana]

So you think a comment keeps it low, started in 84 finished in 2002 so I know it's always been low and comments won't change anything.

Regarding tips and bungs as making up wages is silly.

so they pay decent wage and take the optionals and tips and don't say they won't as I worked for well known holiday companies and at one time the optionals were the drivers then it changed and drivers only got a small percentage

Point missed completely. Accepting poor pay because you can make it up with bungs is wrong. And any employer who takes this into account when setting wages is breaking the law

[LloydenDun]

Regarding tips and bungs as making up wages is silly.

so they pay decent wage and take the optionals and tips and don't say they won't as I worked for well known holiday companies and at one time the optionals were the drivers then it changed and drivers only got a small percentage

Point missed completely. Accepting poor pay because you can make it up with bungs is wrong. And any employer who takes this into account when setting wages is breaking the law

So is working 24hrs a day but you do that
When single driver/guide on tour you are the one that drives, cleans the coach, informs the passengers of the sights, is there for passengers if needed in the evening and if any emergency during the night.
The wages are what they are low, I now drive HGVs so on this basis just because I don't have passengers I should be payed less? The whole transport industry both PSV/HGV is low because of cost of running business, plus if you strike no one will stick together for a all out strike for better wages as there is always someone who is willing to drive

[Dayxana]

so they pay decent wage and take the optionals and tips and don't say they won't as I worked for well known holiday companies and at one time the optionals were the drivers then it changed and drivers only got a small percentage

Point missed completely. Accepting poor pay because you can make it up with bungs is wrong. And any employer who takes this into account when setting wages is breaking the law

So is working 24hrs a day but you do that
When single driver/guide on tour you are the one that drives, cleans the coach, informs the passengers of the sights, is there for passengers if needed in the evening and if any emergency during the night.
The wages are what they are low, I now drive HGVs so on this basis just because I don't have passengers I should be payed less? The whole transport industry both PSV/HGV is low because of cost of running business, plus if you strike no one will stick together for a all out strike for better wages as there is always someone who is willing to drive

Look im sorry but every word of that is nonsense.

[JozesTips]

Thanks for the comments, I’ve only been in the industry for 23 years..

[pixoneBuy]

Thanks for the comments, I’ve only been in the industry for 23 years..

38 years I did it for

[136_lewismequ]

Just so you know Jazes. Everyone in the world thinks they are worth more than they actually are. No one is in disposable.

[ihenxo-2173]

Just so you know Jazes. Everyone in the world thinks they are worth more than they actually are. No one is in disposable.

Spot on 35 years running my own coach business now 3 years bus driving bus driving 4 days a week for £8.50 a hour and no worries as when I was an operator.

[personalth]

23 years and still moaning about pay. I’d have thought your would have learned by now that the rates will always be lower than you can earn in other industries. But I guess as they say, some people never learn.

[136_lewismequ]

23 years and still moaning about pay. I’d have thought your would have learned by now that the rates will always be lower than you can earn in other industries. But I guess as they say, some people never learn.

Pilots and train drivers earn more

[personalth]

23 years and still moaning about pay. I’d have thought your would have learned by now that the rates will always be lower than you can earn in other industries. But I guess as they say, some people never learn.

Pilots and train drivers earn more

hgv Driver’s earn more. That’s what coach drivers who actually want to earn more, rather than just moan about shit wages, go and do.

[136_lewismequ]

23 years and still moaning about pay. I’d have thought your would have learned by now that the rates will always be lower than you can earn in other industries. But I guess as they say, some people never learn.

Pilots and train drivers earn more

hgv Driver’s earn more. That’s what coach drivers who actually want to earn more, rather than just moan about shit wages, go and do.

and I thought they all became pilots. As apparently they are equal

[personalth]

Pilots and train drivers earn more

hgv Driver’s earn more. That’s what coach drivers who actually want to earn more, rather than just moan about shit wages, go and do.

and I thought they all became pilots. As apparently they are equal

Ah yes probably that too. My bad! That’s what I was going to do. But then I remembered I didn’t have brains nor the £100k+ required for training!

[JozesTips]

hgv Driver’s earn more. That’s what coach drivers who actually want to earn more, rather than just moan about shit wages, go and do.

and I thought they all became pilots. As apparently they are equal

Ah yes probably that too. My bad! That’s what I was going to do. But then I remembered I didn’t have brains nor the £100k+ required for training!

I was trying to put over the importance of a coach driver, ie people’s lives at stake etc and other jobs with same pay... not a moan, just people’s thoughts.... please read original post before commenting..

[TreDraven]

Wouldn't get out of bed for that

[136_lewismequ]

Wouldn't get out of bed for that

You must spend a lot of time in bed then ... lazy bugger

[KENEssence]

Face reality. Some years ago. Shearings was owned by Top Rank Bingo, they paid their bingo callers, better wages than their Coach Drivers.

[136_lewismequ]

Face reality. Some years ago. Shearings was owned by Top Rank Bingo, they paid their bingo callers, better wages than their Coach Drivers.

The bingo callers were semi skilled professionals

[Crowthfa]

Face reality. Some years ago. Shearings was owned by Top Rank Bingo, they paid their bingo callers, better wages than their Coach Drivers.

The bingo business and Shearings were both owned by Rank Organization Plc. In different divisions run by completely separate management. No direct connection.

[KENEssence]

Face reality. Some years ago. Shearings was owned by Top Rank Bingo, they paid their bingo callers, better wages than their Coach Drivers.

The bingo business and Shearings were both owned by Rank Organization Plc. In different divisions run by completely separate management. No direct connection.

but the bingo callers got Better wages

[Alanable]

Every time I see a bus or a coach there is a bod sitting in the front right hand corner.Its all down to market forces,if an operator can get a bod for £9.00 why would he pay£10.00.

[P0steeSky]

Depends where you are in the country. South of Watford don't get out of bed for less than £10.00 hour. That's bus money. For tachograph vehicles stay in bed if rate under £11.00. Best day rate is £13.00 hour excluding nights and weekends.

[KENEssence]

That’s why I moved to Germany in 2003.
HGV wage was €25 an hour Plus €44 per night sleep out fee. You also got €37.50 overtime over 35 hours.
All controlled by Berlin.

[KENEssence]

And your night out money, if within the M25 increased to €57!!!!!!!

[personalth]

And your night out money, if within the M25 increased to €57!!!!!!!

Why would you be within the m25 if you are in Germany!

[KENEssence]

And your night out money, if within the M25 increased to €57!!!!!!!

Why would you be within the m25 if you are in Germany!

Cos that’s where the Germans built the services

[JozesTips]

Isn’t it abit pathetic that some of you post unconstructed posts, but seem to know everything about the industry.. feel overwhelmed with some of the crap posted.... Many thanks anyway,

[136_lewismequ]

Perhaps it’s because this topic comes up weekly ...

[Dayxana]

Lewis's right, it's almost constant. You asked for people's thoughts and you got them, that was the point yes?
As the saying goes that applies to everything - If you don't like the answers don't ask the question.

[JozesTips]

Well seeing that I’ve only just joined I’ve never seen posts on here before... but thank you to all the professional drivers thought... I would just like to point out that some views are complete b#####ks but Lewis you chat more sense...

[personalth]

Well seeing that I’ve only just joined I’ve never seen posts on here before... but thank you to all the professional drivers thought... I would just like to point out that some views are complete b#####ks but Lewis you chat more sense...

Well that’s a first. Someone calling Lewis sensible!

[JozesTips]

That’s why I moved to Germany in 2003.
HGV wage was €25 an hour Plus €44 per night sleep out fee. You also got €37.50 overtime over 35 hours.
All controlled by Berlin.

I’d put you in a category as a usual (I’ll take what I can) as a coach driver.... your views are so me me me, thank god you don’t work for me..

[edurhVam]

That’s why I moved to Germany in 2003.
HGV wage was €25 an hour Plus €44 per night sleep out fee. You also got €37.50 overtime over 35 hours.
All controlled by Berlin.

I’d put you in a category as a usual (I’ll take what I can) as a coach driver.... your views are so me me me, thank god you don’t work for me..

says the fella that chosen to only get £8.50 per hour lol

[JozesTips]

That’s why I moved to Germany in 2003.
HGV wage was €25 an hour Plus €44 per night sleep out fee. You also got €37.50 overtime over 35 hours.
All controlled by Berlin.

I’d put you in a category as a usual (I’ll take what I can) as a coach driver.... your views are so me me me, thank god you don’t work for me..

says the fella that chosen to only get £8.50 per hour lol

thanks for your comment... guess minibus is for you

[edurhVam]

I’d put you in a category as a usual (I’ll take what I can) as a coach driver.... your views are so me me me, thank god you don’t work for me..

says the fella that chosen to only get £8.50 per hour lol

thanks for your comment... guess minibus is for you

beats driving a coach for £8.50 an hour lol

[edurhVam]

I was getting more than that driving local buses when I was a new driver lol

[136_lewismequ]

I was getting more than that driving local buses when I was a new driver lol

I get more stacking shelves in the supermarket... there we go... full circle

[edurhVam]

I was getting more than that driving local buses when I was a new driver lol

I get more stacking shelves in the supermarket... there we go... full circle

my son gets more and he not left school yet lol

[136_lewismequ]

I was getting more than that driving local buses when I was a new driver lol

I get more stacking shelves in the supermarket... there we go... full circle

my son gets more and he not left school yet lol

My grandson gets more and he’s not a twinkle in my some eye yet

[personalth]

I was getting more than that driving local buses when I was a new driver lol

I get more stacking shelves in the supermarket... there we go... full circle

my son gets more and he not left school yet lol

it’s not his fault he’s still at school age 39!

[edurhVam]

I get more stacking shelves in the supermarket... there we go... full circle

my son gets more and he not left school yet lol

it’s not his fault he’s still at school age 39!

I be wondering who the f**k the dad was if he was 39 lol I aint 35 yet lol

[JozesTips]

I was getting more than that driving local buses when I was a new driver lol

Thank you Edurhvam... I guess your village appreciates you

[edurhVam]

I was getting more than that driving local buses when I was a new driver lol

Thank you Edurhvam... I guess your village appreciates you

we live in the same place you and me jonesy

[JozesTips]

I was getting more than that driving local buses when I was a new driver lol

Thank you Edurhvam... I guess your village appreciates you

we live in the same place you and me jonesy

I doubt it..,

[edurhVam]

Thank you Edurhvam... I guess your village appreciates you

we live in the same place you and me jonesy

I doubt it..,

obviously not the same estate tho lol

[JozesTips]

we live in the same place you and me jonesy

I doubt it..,

obviously not the same estate tho lol

I don’t live on a estate.. I’ve done good

[edurhVam]

I doubt it..,

obviously not the same estate tho lol

I don’t live on a estate.. I’ve done good

ok then, the terraced houses lol

[Johnetto]

Till operators generally get paid more than shelf stackers, and 20 years ago, operating a till in the local Tesco would have earned me more per hour than driving a coach, so this is not a new thing.
However, till operation is boring, repetitive work, and you spend your entire time at work actually, you know, working. As against working for a bit, then having an hour or two off while getting paid for sleeping, answering e-mails and posting on here.