Who do we send complaints to about roadside encounters of being overweight? We are very careful about the weight we

[cirjon_danz]

Who do we send complaints to about roadside encounters of being overweight?
We are very careful about the weight we carry. Always at least 300kg underweight. Every time we get pulled at trowel services we are told that we are 1/2 ton over weight of our train weight. It is impossible. We have had our vehicles weighed at a Vosa with bridge and the trailer weighed separately.
The weight of our vehicle comes in at 2022 kg but at trowel they tell us it is 2600kg.

[ThrillTribee]

You can always raise a complaint with DVSA but you need to be accurate about the situation and provide good information. I can’t understand your calculation because you seem to indicate that the vehicle was weighed as a combination of vehicle and trailer but then say that the vehicle was under weight as it was weighed separately.

[AmeeTinny]

Are you weighing the vehicle combination with a full tank of fuel and passengers? This will make a difference to the overall weight of the vehicle so needs to be factored in

[Colisman]

Van published weight is empty, you now have driver, fuel, drivers bag of boiled sweets and 12 empty McDonalds wrappers as well as ply lining and the pallet the load is on and straps etc. Chinese carton weights are a guess at best, fluids tend to assume 1litre = 1kg but many fluids are heavier plus the packing. Load up the drive and mate if applicable plus a full tank of fuel and ADR kit or anything else that remains in the van then visit a public weighbridge and pay for a printout. Then revisit what your load actually is.

[cirjon_danz]

Van published weight is empty, you now have driver, fuel, drivers bag of boiled sweets and 12 empty McDonalds wrappers as well as ply lining and the pallet the load is on and straps etc. Chinese carton weights are a guess at best, fluids tend to assume 1litre = 1kg but many fluids are heavier plus the packing. Load up the drive and mate if applicable plus a full tank of fuel and ADR kit or anything else that remains in the van then visit a public weighbridge and pay for a printout. Then revisit what your load actually is.

this wasn’t the published weight. It was the actual weight at weighbridge

[Colisman]

Van published weight is empty, you now have driver, fuel, drivers bag of boiled sweets and 12 empty McDonalds wrappers as well as ply lining and the pallet the load is on and straps etc. Chinese carton weights are a guess at best, fluids tend to assume 1litre = 1kg but many fluids are heavier plus the packing. Load up the drive and mate if applicable plus a full tank of fuel and ADR kit or anything else that remains in the van then visit a public weighbridge and pay for a printout. Then revisit what your load actually is.

this wasn’t the published weight. It was the actual weight at weighbridge

so either load is not the described weight or one of the weigh bridges is wrong.

[cirjon_danz]

Van published weight is empty, you now have driver, fuel, drivers bag of boiled sweets and 12 empty McDonalds wrappers as well as ply lining and the pallet the load is on and straps etc. Chinese carton weights are a guess at best, fluids tend to assume 1litre = 1kg but many fluids are heavier plus the packing. Load up the drive and mate if applicable plus a full tank of fuel and ADR kit or anything else that remains in the van then visit a public weighbridge and pay for a printout. Then revisit what your load actually is.

this wasn’t the published weight. It was the actual weight at weighbridge

so either load is not the described weight or one of the weigh bridges is wrong.

At road side they are using plates.

[mcIdol]

this wasn’t the published weight. It was the actual weight at weighbridge

so either load is not the described weight or one of the weigh bridges is wrong.

At road side they are using plates.

Did they use dummy pads or levelling mats to ensure the vehicle was level when using the mobile weigh pads? I’m currently contesting a case where we were weighed without causing each axle to weigh considerably more than it should due to the height difference.
https://pesage-captels.com/en/technic/m ... -accuracy/

[cirjon_danz]

so either load is not the described weight or one of the weigh bridges is wrong.

At road side they are using plates.

Did they use dummy pads or levelling mats to ensure the vehicle was level when using the mobile weigh pads? I’m currently contesting a case where we were weighed without causing each axle to weigh considerably more than it should due to the height difference.
https://pesage-captels.com/en/technic/m ... -accuracy/

I will dm you my number. I finally have someone else in the same boat.

[Binnson]

At road side they are using plates.

Did they use dummy pads or levelling mats to ensure the vehicle was level when using the mobile weigh pads? I’m currently contesting a case where we were weighed without causing each axle to weigh considerably more than it should due to the height difference.
https://pesage-captels.com/en/technic/m ... -accuracy/

I will dm you my number. I finally have someone else in the same boat.

I have carried out many weight checks for a major construction company. We used weigh pads with a dummy set to ensure the vehicle was level. We found if you didn’t put blanks in, the discrepancy was quite alarming. I think you need to video them weighing your vehicle and post it for comments. We found the shorter the wheelbase the bigger the margin for error.

[mcIdol]

Did they use dummy pads or levelling mats to ensure the vehicle was level when using the mobile weigh pads? I’m currently contesting a case where we were weighed without causing each axle to weigh considerably more than it should due to the height difference.
https://pesage-captels.com/en/technic/m ... -accuracy/

I will dm you my number. I finally have someone else in the same boat.

I have carried out many weight checks for a major construction company. We used weigh pads with a dummy set to ensure the vehicle was level. We found if you didn’t put blanks in, the discrepancy was quite alarming. I think you need to video them weighing your vehicle and post it for comments. We found the shorter the wheelbase the bigger the margin for error.

Do you have any documented figures showing what the differences were?

[mcIdol]

At road side they are using plates.

Did they use dummy pads or levelling mats to ensure the vehicle was level when using the mobile weigh pads? I’m currently contesting a case where we were weighed without causing each axle to weigh considerably more than it should due to the height difference.
https://pesage-captels.com/en/technic/m ... -accuracy/

I will dm you my number. I finally have someone else in the same boat.

Have a read of:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... f-vehicles
“in cases where all axles of the vehicle are not being weighed simultaneously, sufficient dummy pads or levelling mats of equivalent thickness are to be used under all wheels not being weighed, ensuring that the wheels on each axle are weighed together”
I will give you a call this morning

[Binnson]

I will dm you my number. I finally have someone else in the same boat.

I have carried out many weight checks for a major construction company. We used weigh pads with a dummy set to ensure the vehicle was level. We found if you didn’t put blanks in, the discrepancy was quite alarming. I think you need to video them weighing your vehicle and post it for comments. We found the shorter the wheelbase the bigger the margin for error.

Do you have any documented figures showing what the differences were?

no, however, the manufacturer states the vehicle must be level. I will ask some of the guys that still do what they call gate checks and come back to you.

[mcIdol]

I have carried out many weight checks for a major construction company. We used weigh pads with a dummy set to ensure the vehicle was level. We found if you didn’t put blanks in, the discrepancy was quite alarming. I think you need to video them weighing your vehicle and post it for comments. We found the shorter the wheelbase the bigger the margin for error.

Do you have any documented figures showing what the differences were?

no, however, the manufacturer states the vehicle must be level. I will ask some of the guys that still do what they call gate checks and come back to you.

Thank you

[cirjon_danz]

Did they use dummy pads or levelling mats to ensure the vehicle was level when using the mobile weigh pads? I’m currently contesting a case where we were weighed without causing each axle to weigh considerably more than it should due to the height difference.
https://pesage-captels.com/en/technic/m ... -accuracy/

I will dm you my number. I finally have someone else in the same boat.

Have a read of:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... f-vehicles
“in cases where all axles of the vehicle are not being weighed simultaneously, sufficient dummy pads or levelling mats of equivalent thickness are to be used under all wheels not being weighed, ensuring that the wheels on each axle are weighed together”
I will give you a call this morning

That’s exactly what they did to us.

[cirjon_danz]

Vehicle was weighed at weighbridge with 3/4 tank of fuel and driver in. Trailer weighs 800kg and the vehicle on trailer weighed 1850kg. We pass at every stop except trowel. This has to be incorrect measuring on their side as we have had the same combination at Newport and we were under as per normal. Driver had to leave vehicle and trailer at the services for another driver to come and collect.

[cirjon_danz]

We weighed in at under 4700 at weigh ridge and train weight is 5300. How can this be 1/2 ton over.

[BillStill]

You obviously have a problem. Weighbridges are calibrated. Re-check all your figures.

[Kurisure]

If the nose weight that is messing you up

[jadevin]

What are you transporting? Is there any chance for the load to get wet and hold water? EG were a scaffold company so the board may get wet and become more heavy etc.