Hi guys, Filling out these way bills which part do you do now for close group?

[JAMIELDER]

Hi guys, Filling out these way bills which part do you do now for close group?

[jazon-1362]

Put a x in box A

[kevinn.cannd]

Should've been filled in and completed by the operator and stamped.

[fintexo]

Should've been filled in and completed by the operator and stamped.

No it doesn't.

[murrayimFox]

Should've been filled in and completed by the operator and stamped.

No it doesn't.

of course it has to be completed by the operator before the journey has begun and only the unforseen changes need to be filled in by the driver if relevant!

[fintexo]

Should've been filled in and completed by the operator and stamped.

No it doesn't.

of course it has to be completed by the operator before the journey has begun and only the unforseen changes need to be filled in by the driver if relevant!

Does not state that this is the case anywhere on the waybill book (see other post) and there is no space for an "operator stamp". Anyone can complete the waybill.
If you could advise me on where you think this is a requirement from your TM CPC course, I'll happily compare them with mine.

[kevinn.cannd]

Should've been filled in and completed by the operator and stamped.

No it doesn't.

think you need an update course mate. As of 2021

[fintexo]

Should've been filled in and completed by the operator and stamped.

No it doesn't.

think you need an update course mate. As of 2021

2021 is when waybills were introduced.
"It is the prime responsibility of the operator to ensure that passenger waybills are correct."
That does not in any way stipulate that a qualified Transport Manager needs to complete one. It is down to the operator to determine how that is done.
Yet another stupid Coach Driver myth.
More information here...
https://app.croneri.co.uk/topics/overvi ... ns/indepth

[PaPaullz]

No it doesn't.

think you need an update course mate. As of 2021

2021 is when waybills were introduced.
"It is the prime responsibility of the operator to ensure that passenger waybills are correct."
That does not in any way stipulate that a qualified Transport Manager needs to complete one. It is down to the operator to determine how that is done.
Yet another stupid Coach Driver myth.
More information here...
https://app.croneri.co.uk/topics/overvi ... ns/indepth

we fill our own waybills out for every tour & have never once been pulled up for it.

[fintexo]

think you need an update course mate. As of 2021

2021 is when waybills were introduced.
"It is the prime responsibility of the operator to ensure that passenger waybills are correct."
That does not in any way stipulate that a qualified Transport Manager needs to complete one. It is down to the operator to determine how that is done.
Yet another stupid Coach Driver myth.
More information here...
https://app.croneri.co.uk/topics/overvi ... ns/indepth

we fill our own waybills out for every tour & have never once been pulled up for it.

Likewise. When stuff has been completed pre departure, it is usually wrong especially in respect of mileages or issues where feeder Drivers don't fill in their part (any) of the waybill.
That's usually down to general knowledge of the waybills / education by the operator, however, rather than anything else.

[PeRRELLU]

Are you on the road?

[fintexo]

.

[fintexo]

On the front...
- Closed Door Type A.
- Vehicle registration.
- Name of operator (from O Licence)
- Name of Drivers (includes those who do feeders or drive on any part of the tour)
- No. of passenger seats on vehicle.

[fintexo]

On the back...
- Details of journey for each day (0000-2359) remember your location when the clock rolls over if you are travelling overnight.
- Don't forget your border crossing points
- Start of journey is from depot to pickup point (unladen)
- List of pax can be a copy of a passenger list (but make sure you keep it with the waybill) or get the lead passenger to complete it.

[misnTarry]

Same as before ..surely filled one in before

[lewis1geno]

Surely your trained transport manager would know how to fill it out?

[fintexo]

Surely your trained transport manager would know how to fill it out?

It's not rocket science, but if you've never done it before it can be confusing.

[lewis1geno]

Surely your trained transport manager would know how to fill it out?

It's not rocket science, but if you've never done it before it can be confusing.

absolutely agree with you, makes sense if someone who’s trained to fill out such a document does it, rather than running the risk of getting it wrong.

[JAMIELDER]

Surely your trained transport manager would know how to fill it out?

It's not rocket science, but if you've never done it before it can be confusing.

exactly

[andreal]

Surely your trained transport manager would know how to fill it out?

funnily enough but this wasn’t on the TM CPC… This is also a fairly new doc, only a couple of years old..

[lewis1geno]

Surely your trained transport manager would know how to fill it out?

funnily enough but this wasn’t on the TM CPC… This is also a fairly new doc, only a couple of years old..

strange, it was in mine

[andreal]

Surely your trained transport manager would know how to fill it out?

funnily enough but this wasn’t on the TM CPC… This is also a fairly new doc, only a couple of years old..

strange, it was in mine

not mine.. 4 year ago..

[lewis1geno]

funnily enough but this wasn’t on the TM CPC… This is also a fairly new doc, only a couple of years old..

strange, it was in mine

not mine.. 4 year ago..

strange, would have thought it would have been in your yearly refresher that I’m sure you take

[andreal]

strange, it was in mine

not mine.. 4 year ago..

strange, would have thought it would have been in your yearly refresher that I’m sure you take

it’s 5 yearly… not yearly
Mine is this year

[andreal]

Make sure you add everyone’s name to it or staple a correct list to the waybill!
It’s all about the carrier not the hirer..
Make sure your mileages are are good and if anything exceed each calculation… if it’s not enough they can fine you.. if it’s excessive and you could be fined for potentially carrying out other journeys!
Funny old game

[McLeoddge]

A

[Younglz]

I've to fill in something similar for travelling to southern Ireland from Northern Ireland, drivers name, from where and to, how many kms, date of travel etc, but not really enforced.

[peteerva-287]

Should be filled in by office before leaving depot

[GwyuLedger]

Back to how it was years ago!!!!

[jenkinnDay]

This is not the way bill nothing to do with way bill. Yes the operator should fill in way bill in uk and driver fills in anything else the right way? This is only for the pass to go into Switzerland tax.

[rhobert-874]

Simple answer now stuff Europe don't go

[draveeye-hall]

A

[fintexo]

If you are out and back with the same group, Part A - Closed Door Tour.

[JAMIELDER]

If you are out and back with the same group, Part A - Closed Door Tour.

do I need to put the ski operators name in as they have hired coach

[AndreJ6ay]

If you are out and back with the same group, Part A - Closed Door Tour.

do I need to put the ski operators name in as they have hired coach

not. You put the name of the company because you are the carriers

[fintexo]

If you are out and back with the same group, Part A - Closed Door Tour.

do I need to put the ski operators name in as they have hired coach

No, the Operator (as written on the O Licence / Legal lettering). The ski company is the "Contracting Party", but they don't need to be identified on the waybill.