What should we be charging per mile to make the job pay ? With the running cost going up and up can we still make

[GabCraby]

What should we be charging per mile to make the job pay?
With the running cost going up and up can we still make a living driving?
Finding it difficult out there and only a one man company so what am I doing wrong
Running a Mercedes sprinter flatbed working 5 days a week.

[MichaelMj]

It’s getting ridiculous how low some people are charging. My going rate is 75p to £1 depending on location time and customer. Repeat customers with me get the better rate. But If going to a location that return journeys are harder I sometimes charge more. I’m also finding more and more people doing cheaper rates but are co loading without telling. I was doing a delivery and collection Monday and this Luton van rocked on on what should of been a dedicated load 4 hours late due to a breakdown and it was loaded top to bottom side to side!

[MaPrecise]

It’s getting ridiculous how low some people are charging. My going rate is 75p to £1 depending on location time and customer. Repeat customers with me get the better rate. But If going to a location that return journeys are harder I sometimes charge more. I’m also finding more and more people doing cheaper rates but are co loading without telling. I was doing a delivery and collection Monday and this Luton van rocked on on what should of been a dedicated load 4 hours late due to a breakdown and it was loaded top to bottom side to side!

so you, with luton van, go with 0.75.....1 pounds per mile..interesting!

[MichaelMj]

It’s getting ridiculous how low some people are charging. My going rate is 75p to £1 depending on location time and customer. Repeat customers with me get the better rate. But If going to a location that return journeys are harder I sometimes charge more. I’m also finding more and more people doing cheaper rates but are co loading without telling. I was doing a delivery and collection Monday and this Luton van rocked on on what should of been a dedicated load 4 hours late due to a breakdown and it was loaded top to bottom side to side!

so you, with luton van, go with 0.75.....1 pounds per mile..interesting!

no my small van 75p to £1 but I was explaining what I witnessed whilst on a job. A Luton van rocked up fully co loaded on a job that was meant to be dedicated

[ReAsp10]

It’s getting ridiculous how low some people are charging. My going rate is 75p to £1 depending on location time and customer. Repeat customers with me get the better rate. But If going to a location that return journeys are harder I sometimes charge more. I’m also finding more and more people doing cheaper rates but are co loading without telling. I was doing a delivery and collection Monday and this Luton van rocked on on what should of been a dedicated load 4 hours late due to a breakdown and it was loaded top to bottom side to side!

so you, with luton van, go with 0.75.....1 pounds per mile..interesting!

I carnt run mine on that no chance

[cliniha65]

It’s getting ridiculous how low some people are charging. My going rate is 75p to £1 depending on location time and customer. Repeat customers with me get the better rate. But If going to a location that return journeys are harder I sometimes charge more. I’m also finding more and more people doing cheaper rates but are co loading without telling. I was doing a delivery and collection Monday and this Luton van rocked on on what should of been a dedicated load 4 hours late due to a breakdown and it was loaded top to bottom side to side!

so you, with luton van, go with 0.75.....1 pounds per mile..interesting!

where did you see he said Luton, ffs if you can’t get this simple thing right..

[cliniha65]

It’s getting ridiculous how low some people are charging. My going rate is 75p to £1 depending on location time and customer. Repeat customers with me get the better rate. But If going to a location that return journeys are harder I sometimes charge more. I’m also finding more and more people doing cheaper rates but are co loading without telling. I was doing a delivery and collection Monday and this Luton van rocked on on what should of been a dedicated load 4 hours late due to a breakdown and it was loaded top to bottom side to side!

so you, with luton van, go with 0.75.....1 pounds per mile..interesting!

I carnt run mine on that no chance

you can’t run a small van on £1 a mile ffs another idiot

[cliniha65]

It’s getting ridiculous how low some people are charging. My going rate is 75p to £1 depending on location time and customer. Repeat customers with me get the better rate. But If going to a location that return journeys are harder I sometimes charge more. I’m also finding more and more people doing cheaper rates but are co loading without telling. I was doing a delivery and collection Monday and this Luton van rocked on on what should of been a dedicated load 4 hours late due to a breakdown and it was loaded top to bottom side to side!

so you, with luton van, go with 0.75.....1 pounds per mile..interesting!

no my small van 75p to £1 but I was explaining what I witnessed whilst on a job. A Luton van rocked up fully co loaded on a job that was meant to be dedicated

M8 if you can’t run a small van this time of the year at £1 you in the wrong business

[Jodagolf]

It’s getting ridiculous how low some people are charging. My going rate is 75p to £1 depending on location time and customer. Repeat customers with me get the better rate. But If going to a location that return journeys are harder I sometimes charge more. I’m also finding more and more people doing cheaper rates but are co loading without telling. I was doing a delivery and collection Monday and this Luton van rocked on on what should of been a dedicated load 4 hours late due to a breakdown and it was loaded top to bottom side to side!

this is so true yet posters never question why so cheap in the first place

[MichaelMj]

It’s getting ridiculous how low some people are charging. My going rate is 75p to £1 depending on location time and customer. Repeat customers with me get the better rate. But If going to a location that return journeys are harder I sometimes charge more. I’m also finding more and more people doing cheaper rates but are co loading without telling. I was doing a delivery and collection Monday and this Luton van rocked on on what should of been a dedicated load 4 hours late due to a breakdown and it was loaded top to bottom side to side!

this is so true yet posters never question why so cheap in the first place

another that that gets me is back load rates over 300 miles to cover and want to it arrive in 6 hours

[Jodagolf]

It’s getting ridiculous how low some people are charging. My going rate is 75p to £1 depending on location time and customer. Repeat customers with me get the better rate. But If going to a location that return journeys are harder I sometimes charge more. I’m also finding more and more people doing cheaper rates but are co loading without telling. I was doing a delivery and collection Monday and this Luton van rocked on on what should of been a dedicated load 4 hours late due to a breakdown and it was loaded top to bottom side to side!

this is so true yet posters never question why so cheap in the first place

another that that gets me is back load rates over 300 miles to cover and want to it arrive in 6 hours

oh totally mate backload rates are ok if they allow plenty of time but other than that I just price them as normal take or leave it mate I’d rather run empty for a good job than line there pockets mate

[MichaelMj]

this is so true yet posters never question why so cheap in the first place

another that that gets me is back load rates over 300 miles to cover and want to it arrive in 6 hours

oh totally mate backload rates are ok if they allow plenty of time but other than that I just price them as normal take or leave it mate I’d rather run empty for a good job than line there pockets mate

give me a few days no problem but want 300 miles in 6 hours nowt back load happening price wise

[Jodagolf]

another that that gets me is back load rates over 300 miles to cover and want to it arrive in 6 hours

oh totally mate backload rates are ok if they allow plenty of time but other than that I just price them as normal take or leave it mate I’d rather run empty for a good job than line there pockets mate

give me a few days no problem but want 300 miles in 6 hours nowt back load happening price wise

just stick to your guns and build relationships with good companies mate

[MichaelMj]

oh totally mate backload rates are ok if they allow plenty of time but other than that I just price them as normal take or leave it mate I’d rather run empty for a good job than line there pockets mate

give me a few days no problem but want 300 miles in 6 hours nowt back load happening price wise

just stick to your guns and build relationships with good companies mate

best advice! I’ve made some fantastic contacts just through talking. I do a lot of the same routes now as it frees up with drivers with a local company so I know 2 days a week I have work and it’s always return work to

[driirou21]

January is always bad but this year has been worse than most. Personally I think it will be at least March before work picks up.
If your going to try to hang on look on the bright side, if you make it through these quiet times a lot of your competitors will have either gone bust or drifted away to do something else.

[satmitt52]

January is always bad but this year has been worse than most. Personally I think it will be at least March before work picks up.
If your going to try to hang on look on the bright side, if you make it through these quiet times a lot of your competitors will have either gone bust or drifted away to do something else.

agreed I haven’t had anything since December it starts getting better end of February March

[Gibbsys]

If you don't know what to charge you shouldn't be doing it for a living.

[PatQuick]

I run 2 flatbeds not normal size ones. But it’s hard but I stick to my prices even on cx. My prices are more then everyone is saying

[angSann]

I run 2 flatbeds not normal size ones. But it’s hard but I stick to my prices even on cx. My prices are more then everyone is saying

exactly the same. I’m considerably higher than what’s being quoted here, LWB crafter

[PatQuick]

I run 2 flatbeds not normal size ones. But it’s hard but I stick to my prices even on cx. My prices are more then everyone is saying

exactly the same. I’m considerably higher than what’s being quoted here, LWB crafter

I’m lucky as only 1 % of my work comes off cx these days. Cx is s*it, I’m luck in post work but I pay £1 for a small van. But I see silly prices £2 for small vans £3.50 for Luton’s they want more than I’m getting

[BraPlot]

If your selling your flat bed.. give me a shout..

[Jodagolf]

Don’t matter what you price there’s always someone cheaper by rights it should be down to feedback etc. but most only care about price

[waisWes94]

I’m sorry but if you don’t know what you need to charge per mile to live off it’s time to wrap up. These are basic questions that should of been asked or thought about before even buying a van. Yes it’s very hard out there at the moment but never undersell yourself. I’d rather keep my vans parked up than run for ridiculous rates and don’t forget if you’re judging rates on cx then you’ll never earn money because that’s primarily a backload site

[san1990]

I’m sorry but if you don’t know what you need to charge per mile to live off it’s time to wrap up. These are basic questions that should of been asked or thought about before even buying a van. Yes it’s very hard out there at the moment but never undersell yourself. I’d rather keep my vans parked up than run for ridiculous rates and don’t forget if you’re judging rates on cx then you’ll never earn money because that’s primarily a backload site

it was designed to be until got full of freight forwarders who don't own a single van, as mentioned above if give plenty of time to collect and deliver is backload, when delivery asap not backload anymore

[waisWes94]

I’m sorry but if you don’t know what you need to charge per mile to live off it’s time to wrap up. These are basic questions that should of been asked or thought about before even buying a van. Yes it’s very hard out there at the moment but never undersell yourself. I’d rather keep my vans parked up than run for ridiculous rates and don’t forget if you’re judging rates on cx then you’ll never earn money because that’s primarily a backload site

it was designed to be until got full of freight forwarders who don't own a single van, as mentioned above if give plenty of time to collect and deliver is backload, when delivery asap not backload anymore

if it stipulates asap or booked as a hotshot then yes I agree

[san1990]

I’m sorry but if you don’t know what you need to charge per mile to live off it’s time to wrap up. These are basic questions that should of been asked or thought about before even buying a van. Yes it’s very hard out there at the moment but never undersell yourself. I’d rather keep my vans parked up than run for ridiculous rates and don’t forget if you’re judging rates on cx then you’ll never earn money because that’s primarily a backload site

it was designed to be until got full of freight forwarders who don't own a single van, as mentioned above if give plenty of time to collect and deliver is backload, when delivery asap not backload anymore

if it stipulates asap or booked as a hotshot then yes I agree

well the majority of the jobs posted are hotshots, means then is not a backload site

[MeGazer]

it was designed to be until got full of freight forwarders who don't own a single van, as mentioned above if give plenty of time to collect and deliver is backload, when delivery asap not backload anymore

if it stipulates asap or booked as a hotshot then yes I agree

well the majority of the jobs posted are hotshots, means then is not a backload site

the concept of CX was a trade platform so that transport /Couriers with excess work could cover the jobs with likewise transport / couriers, this filling those dead miles, it makes no difference if a load is posted as a backload or a hotshot, with or without time specifications, if I’ve dropped in London and a job pops up collect by abc time and deliver 5 hours later in Manchester ( taking me home ) I’d do it at a backload rate rather than go home empty.
People need to get it out of their heads that every hotshot needs to be done at full price … especially when competing against someone who has tipped a job for his/her own end user ( thus already made their money on that job, and the return job is just a bonus

[PatQuick]

I’m sorry but if you don’t know what you need to charge per mile to live off it’s time to wrap up. These are basic questions that should of been asked or thought about before even buying a van. Yes it’s very hard out there at the moment but never undersell yourself. I’d rather keep my vans parked up than run for ridiculous rates and don’t forget if you’re judging rates on cx then you’ll never earn money because that’s primarily a backload site

same as me, everything costs. This is the second day this week I’ve been out in my fiesta van doing couple of jobs. Bet I’m still charging my than lwb on cx. People don’t understand customer are trying to cut costs a well . Just had pallet network bring pallet from Exeter to Suffolk £63.87. Over 3 day

[daforr22]

I have just done a job that paid £1.75 per mile... one way.. I won't work for anything less.. just not worth it.. Leave it to the cowboys to fight for nothing.. I will still be working with my customer offering a high quality service.

[Pamyer]

I have just done a job that paid £1.75 per mile... one way.. I won't work for anything less.. just not worth it.. Leave it to the cowboys to fight for nothing.. I will still be working with my customer offering a high quality service.

that’s great it’s when people expect that on a trade site

[daforr22]

I have just done a job that paid £1.75 per mile... one way.. I won't work for anything less.. just not worth it.. Leave it to the cowboys to fight for nothing.. I will still be working with my customer offering a high quality service.

that’s great it’s when people expect that on a trade site

Don't use trade sites, never have done. Coz there is always someone who will do it for nothing.. Have my own Customer base, and just work with them.. Never ever do back load stuff, no money in it and usually more trouble than its worth

[driirou21]

I have just done a job that paid £1.75 per mile... one way.. I won't work for anything less.. just not worth it.. Leave it to the cowboys to fight for nothing.. I will still be working with my customer offering a high quality service.

that’s great it’s when people expect that on a trade site

Don't use trade sites, never have done. Coz there is always someone who will do it for nothing.. Have my own Customer base, and just work with them.. Never ever do back load stuff, no money in it and usually more trouble than its worth

"no money in backloads".
Depends how carefully you pick em mate.

[daforr22]

that’s great it’s when people expect that on a trade site

Don't use trade sites, never have done. Coz there is always someone who will do it for nothing.. Have my own Customer base, and just work with them.. Never ever do back load stuff, no money in it and usually more trouble than its worth

"no money in backloads".
Depends how carefully you pick em mate.

Don't do them.. Too many mates been stung by shite loads, late payments and in a lot of cases no payment at all.. So I just don't take the risk.. I can afford to run back empty from any destination I go.. So much less hassle

[vieiceb83]

OP you are asking what 'we' should be charging per mile, it's an impossible question to answer, you must know your own costs for your van, your mortgage liability, your household bills, not everyone has the same so there is no hard and fast fixed mile rate, geography comes into play as well of course, its a pointless question to ask with all due respect

[DobMo]

OP you are asking what 'we' should be charging per mile, it's an impossible question to answer, you must know your own costs for your van, your mortgage liability, your household bills, not everyone has the same so there is no hard and fast fixed mile rate, geography comes into play as well of course, its a pointless question to ask with all due respect

how many times have you said that? Still they keep on coming........

[BrvBrent]

£15 per hour £1.50 minimum

[satmitt52]

£1 per mile don’t work anymore for 4.2 meter sprinter unfortunately people are doing it for a lot less that’s why people like us don’t get the work I will always quote £2 per mile I
Take what I can as some people do pay this don’t forget people have got money they make it look like they can’t afford it don’t go cheaply going cheap shows the strength of your service although you might just get half your work load in a month as you normally would get but I refuse to be a busy fool and leave the cheap price jobs to the cheap service they provide damaged lost goods and late delivery’s no guarantee to the customer bad feedback poor quality and poor reputation you get what you pay for.

[andallyer]

I’m seeing a lot while posting that people with Luton’s are trying to charge 7.5t ton rates ……. I run a busy transport office …. It’s trying to get the balance between making the Jon worthwhile and not talking yourself out of a job ….. why price a ridiculous rate where you know you’re not going to get the job ?!?
* and the amount of people who try and pass off Luton’s as 7.5 t trucks too*

[CraAim]

Don’t try to make a living. Try to make a profit is my advice. Easier said than done of course but if you don’t have profit you wont get that replacement vehicle in a couple of years or that tyre for that surprise puncture etc. if your running costs say you can turn a wheel at 90p per mile then charge 1.20 if you have your own customers go in at 1.50. Your figures are your own but be realistic and successful or you will just become another busy fool.