Hi everyone, do a weeks work (55hrs + 4 nights out) decided the next week job wasn't for me and left. Deducted £600

[GunneUnness]

Hi everyone, George Allinson Transport, Darlington, do a weeks work (55hrs + 4 nights out) decided the next week job wasn't for me and left. Deducted £600 for 'insufficient notice', £8.80 take home.

[KOLTONER]

Is that even allowed?

[chipell1995]

Is that even allowed?

not aloud to take anything out of wages without prior notice

[KOLTONER]

Is that even allowed?

not aloud to take anything out of wages without prior notice

I didn’t think that was the case
It seems like an unreasonable amount of money that

[euonymous]

Is that even allowed?

actually this is a myth. The company can take money. OK I being honest I'm not sure if it has to be written in contract or not I would imagine it would have to. Being a newish employer in a different industry I read about this when doing contract. A company is allowed to take money to cover costs incurred if they have to pay another person so agency in that period of not giving the correct notice.

[KOLTONER]

Think a mate of mines looking for drivers in County Durham if you’re stuck

[GunneUnness]

Think a mate of mines looking for drivers in County Durham if you’re stuck

na im good mate...working out of Morrisons now £19 an hour so its worked out pretty well tbf

[Brower]

Yes they can withhold pay for not working notice period

[GunneUnness]

Yes they can withhold pay for not working notice period

i agree but not the whole wage lol away

[Petter+Netter]

Yes they can withhold pay for not working notice period

no they can’t mate, not in this circumstance as the company did not pay for any of the drivers training.
If the driver had done training that the company had payed for, I.e cpc, hgv licence, flt training, then they can deduct the cost of that training.

[Gavinnn]

Yes they can withhold pay for not working notice period

that depends as most places will have a certain amount of time either part can terminate employment without notice for any reason they want. It’s sort of a long trial period, think where I am it’s 6 months

[JanVander]

Yes they can withhold pay for not working notice period

only if it is contract in black and white

[Petter+Netter]

Yes they can withhold pay for not working notice period

only if it is contract in black and white

even the legally they can’t do it. If the driver took them to court, he’d win.

[rontells]

Yes they can withhold pay for not working notice period

not unless you've been there longer than 3 or what ever the trail period is.

[bamsengXo]

Yes they can withhold pay for not working notice period

within the first week you can walk away with no notice, same as a company can fire you with no notice.

[Apell+Unwell]

Yes they can withhold pay for not working notice period

no they can't lol, it's illegal go see acas lol

[Jomiers-Qui]

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[Apell+Unwell]

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correct this is acas some idiots on here.

[Dezroni]

Nothing to even think about, instant letter before action, 7 days notice to pay, then straight on to money claim online

[Egorr1828]

Nothing to even think about, instant letter before action, 7 days notice to pay, then straight on to money claim online

100%

[walatime]

If you take a job somewhere and you don't like it... Do the decent thing and offer to work your notice. If they say that they don't want you to... Fine but don't just down tools. If they were to give you notice you'd expect to be paid...

[joo_burness]

If you take a job somewhere and you don't like it... Do the decent thing and offer to work your notice. If they say that they don't want you to... Fine but don't just down tools. If they were to give you notice you'd expect to be paid...

so it is ok to not pay someone for the work they done? I know you give a notice period but to take all his wage? I get your point but this is dirty.

[GunneUnness]

If you take a job somewhere and you don't like it... Do the decent thing and offer to work your notice. If they say that they don't want you to... Fine but don't just down tools. If they were to give you notice you'd expect to be paid...

TM treats u like absolute sh*t...any1 whos worked there previous will tell you same...im not helping them out when im getting no respect

[walatime]

If you take a job somewhere and you don't like it... Do the decent thing and offer to work your notice. If they say that they don't want you to... Fine but don't just down tools. If they were to give you notice you'd expect to be paid...

TM treats u like absolute sh*t...any1 whos worked there previous will tell you same...im not helping them out when im getting no respect

did you walk with no notice? If so you're in breach of contract....

[GunneUnness]

If you take a job somewhere and you don't like it... Do the decent thing and offer to work your notice. If they say that they don't want you to... Fine but don't just down tools. If they were to give you notice you'd expect to be paid...

TM treats u like absolute sh*t...any1 whos worked there previous will tell you same...im not helping them out when im getting no respect

did you walk with no notice? If so you're in breach of contract....

and???...a dont give a sh*t what im in breach of...im just giving drivers a heads up about the company that is all this post is about...people goin deep as f**k about money and losing a job...fs man

[Aronsu]

If you take a job somewhere and you don't like it... Do the decent thing and offer to work your notice. If they say that they don't want you to... Fine but don't just down tools. If they were to give you notice you'd expect to be paid...

he isn't in breach of fuck all because no contract was signed!

[AllTainted]

If you take a job somewhere and you don't like it... Do the decent thing and offer to work your notice. If they say that they don't want you to... Fine but don't just down tools. If they were to give you notice you'd expect to be paid...

he isn't in breach of fuck all because no contract was signed!

This is why the jobs f*cked when people start siding with employers who pull tricks like this and sh*t on drivers.
It is illegal to make this type of deduction and especially illegal when there has been no contract signed.

[SindBlazed]

Let's start a go fund me page for yourself and let's get on the companies reviews on Google

[GunneUnness]

Let's start a go fund me page for yourself and let's get on the companies reviews on Google

this isn't about the money mate...i live comfortably with money in the bank...im not missing the money its the principle of it and hw these companies think they can get away with it

[harpeller47]

https://www.tuc.org.uk/guidance/i-quit- ... rked-month

[morricsDeck]

It is an illegal deduction am sure ACAS would agree and to be truthful against the law unless you have signed for the deduction to take place

[FlootNephew]

I'm class 2 an on more than that

[GunneUnness]

I'm class 2 an on more than that

another reason why I left...promise lots of overtime and 4get 2 tell you they deduct breaks and tax your night out money

[Gaaryon]

I'm class 2 an on more than that

so???

[FlootNephew]

I'm class 2 an on more than that

so???

that's right

[Inderr_Element]

It is illegal for them to deduct anything .. period

[Kingson]

It is illegal for them to deduct anything .. period

not if it states it in the contract he signed

[PaCooled]

It is illegal for them to deduct anything .. period

certain things can be deducted without consent

[Jesussy25]

It is illegal for them to deduct anything .. period

certain things can be deducted without consent

but they have to let you know in advance

[Kingson]

All depends on the contract you signed

[Dezroni]

All depends on the contract you signed

it really doesn’t. No contract in the the world allows then to make deductions below minimum wage in the one exception of theft

[Kingson]

All depends on the contract you signed

it really doesn’t. No contract in the the world allows then to make deductions below minimum wage in the one exception of theft

if you breach a legally binding contract which you have signed, you really can

[Dezroni]

All depends on the contract you signed

it really doesn’t. No contract in the the world allows then to make deductions below minimum wage in the one exception of theft

if you breach a legally binding contract which you have signed, you really can

Again, unless it would take you to below minimum wage. There’s a reason it’s called the minimum wage

[trac2dock]

You wouldn't need to give notice after just a week. A bit naughty not yelling them your not going back if that's what you did. Illegal for them to make such deductions though you'll have the law on your side.

[Toniee1]

You are not required to give any notice if employed for less than a month. That's the law. Employer must pay in full. They will know this. Send them an email demanding immediate payment plus accrued holiday pay which can be calculated through sage payroll to the hour. I would also copy in your MP to demonstrate yet more unacceptable behavior from employers within the Transport Industry. I'd also be inclined to inform the TC.

[andrus_tech]

You are not required to give any notice if employed for less than a month. That's the law. Employer must pay in full. They will know this. Send them an email demanding immediate payment plus accrued holiday pay which can be calculated through sage payroll to the hour. I would also copy in your MP to demonstrate yet more unacceptable behavior from employers within the Transport Industry. I'd also be inclined to inform the TC.

good idea to copy MP in

[AllTainted]

You are not required to give any notice if employed for less than a month. That's the law. Employer must pay in full. They will know this. Send them an email demanding immediate payment plus accrued holiday pay which can be calculated through sage payroll to the hour. I would also copy in your MP to demonstrate yet more unacceptable behavior from employers within the Transport Industry. I'd also be inclined to inform the TC.

even cc'ing the TC and local MP could have the immediate desired effect of getting paid without any legal action being taken

[compangul]

But I bet you signed the contract that states if notice period is given then driver may be chargeable for disturbance to planned work. My contact states that due to the amount of idiots that just don’t turn up

[Dezroni]

But I bet you signed the contract that states if notice period is given then driver may be chargeable for disturbance to planned work. My contact states that due to the amount of idiots that just don’t turn up

incorrect. You cannot garnish wages to a level below what is commensurate to at least minimum wage for hours worked regardless of what the contract says

[SkelRaw]

By the looks of it they have deducted it after tax which is wrong any deductions on your pay should be gross as you have now been taxed on the full amount which in essence you haven’t received. We have work in Scorton if you’re interested £13 ph

[markid.plus]

As annoying as it is they can do that, you gave no notice, they would have that truck planned and because you didn't work a weeks notice they have deducted what it has cost them, you can fight it but I would expect it will cost you more in the long run, put it down to experience not to piss companies off by just jacking because it never suited you!

[blosy-madz]

As annoying as it is they can do that, you gave no notice, they would have that truck planned and because you didn't work a weeks notice they have deducted what it has cost them, you can fight it but I would expect it will cost you more in the long run, put it down to experience not to piss companies off by just jacking because it never suited you!

you don't have to give a notice if you've worked there less than a month
He hadn't signed a contract I believe so they have no right to deduct the amount they have.

[Dezroni]

As annoying as it is they can do that, you gave no notice, they would have that truck planned and because you didn't work a weeks notice they have deducted what it has cost them, you can fight it but I would expect it will cost you more in the long run, put it down to experience not to piss companies off by just jacking because it never suited you!

Nor can they make deductions even in contract if it would take your wage to below what the equivalent hours would have been at minimum wage

[morricsDeck]

As annoying as it is they can do that, you gave no notice, they would have that truck planned and because you didn't work a weeks notice they have deducted what it has cost them, you can fight it but I would expect it will cost you more in the long run, put it down to experience not to piss companies off by just jacking because it never suited you!

no it will not cost him a dime trust me

[lovellux]

Did you read the small print when you signed up? If that clause is in the paperwork and you accepted it, you'll be on a sticky wicket trying to get it back. You walking out means they have lost a weeks money running a very expensive trucker will have to hire an agency driver which will cost a fortune. Walking out without warning always costs someone money.

[blosy-madz]

If a contract was signed then yes they can deduct a "reasonable amount" however if no contract has been signed even during trial period then written notice must be provided.
And as he was there less than a month he doesn't need to give notice.

[RummiBlog]

If a contract was signed then yes they can deduct a "reasonable amount" however if no contract has been signed even during trial period then written notice must be provided.
And as he was there less than a month he doesn't need to give notice.

I think that can only deduct up to a maximum of £250 by law to cover any costs. Might be wrong, but that’s what I’ve read somewhere.

[blosy-madz]

If a contract was signed then yes they can deduct a "reasonable amount" however if no contract has been signed even during trial period then written notice must be provided.
And as he was there less than a month he doesn't need to give notice.

I think that can only deduct up to a maximum of £250 by law to cover any costs. Might be wrong, but that’s what I’ve read somewhere.

not sure, but £600 seems an awful and he didn't need to give notice as he wasn't there long enough

[Huckin.Tello]

Why are they taxing your night out money?

[GunneUnness]

Why are they taxing your night out money?

coz they pay £26.50 unless you hand in a meal receipt of £5 value they tax it...so you've got 2 spend £5 on food each day in services etc 2 get it tax free...dont ask me why

[JoeMac]

It always been a total sh*t company. And when he bought out company out in liverpool (kirby) metrans he said take a break when you fill up in yard? or i will stop it off you?

[GunneUnness]

It always been a total sh*t company. And when he bought out company out in liverpool (kirby) metrans he said take a break when you fill up in yard? or i will stop it off you?

i remember u telling me that in Wilrijk, a few years back when we were on 4 S&K...dont you remember lol

[JoeMac]

It always been a total sh*t company. And when he bought out company out in liverpool (kirby) metrans he said take a break when you fill up in yard? or i will stop it off you?

i remember u telling me that in Wilrijk, a few years back when we were on 4 S&K...dont you remember lol

yes mate metrans them lad.s never left? but when they all called a day with in a month? all because tony metcalfe retired and sold out and all they where after was a.c.l. contract? and not work force

[GunneUnness]

It always been a total sh*t company. And when he bought out company out in liverpool (kirby) metrans he said take a break when you fill up in yard? or i will stop it off you?

i remember u telling me that in Wilrijk, a few years back when we were on 4 S&K...dont you remember lol

yes mate metrans them lad.s never left? but when they all called a day with in a month? all because tony metcalfe retired and sold out and all they where after was a.c.l. contract? and not work force

doesn't surprise me...old fella who runs the place doesn't give a f**k about drivers...just profit

[JoeMac]

i remember u telling me that in Wilrijk, a few years back when we were on 4 S&K...dont you remember lol

yes mate metrans them lad.s never left? but when they all called a day with in a month? all because tony metcalfe retired and sold out and all they where after was a.c.l. contract? and not work force

doesn't surprise me...old fella who runs the place doesn't give a f**k about drivers...just profit

he had big milk delivery business in liverpool and the haulage company and propertys all around Merseyside? how's life mate still working?

[GunneUnness]

yes mate metrans them lad.s never left? but when they all called a day with in a month? all because tony metcalfe retired and sold out and all they where after was a.c.l. contract? and not work force

doesn't surprise me...old fella who runs the place doesn't give a f**k about drivers...just profit

he had big milk delivery business in liverpool and the haulage company and propertys all around Merseyside? how's life mate still working?

Greed is all it is...yeh im good mate...took a break from the Euro work last month and left S&K just 2 be home a bit more...but missing it already lol

[Fearode]

It always been a total sh*t company. And when he bought out company out in liverpool (kirby) metrans he said take a break when you fill up in yard? or i will stop it off you?

I worked for Metrans when they took over. They sacked a few Liverpool lads whilst they where up in darlington, they had to put their stuff in big bags and make their own way back home.

[cheeRience]

It always been a total sh*t company. And when he bought out company out in liverpool (kirby) metrans he said take a break when you fill up in yard? or i will stop it off you?

but that would be against driving hours as you are on other work if you are fueling up unless someone did it for you.
Argument is that fuel needs monitoring. You cannot be somewhere else, what if pipe came out of tank?

[Jesussy25]

Tell them you going to take them to and employment tribunal, they will give you the money shortly

[MacMisanno]

Its not illegal, they are entitled to deduct money to cover agency driver etc if you fail to give notice. However its a bit shit of them if you have only been there for a week

[Dezroni]

Its not illegal, they are entitled to deduct money to cover agency driver etc if you fail to give notice. However its a bit shit of them if you have only been there for a week

no they aren’t. Not if it takes your wage to below what the minimum wage equivalent would have been

[MacMisanno]

Its not illegal, they are entitled to deduct money to cover agency driver etc if you fail to give notice. However its a bit shit of them if you have only been there for a week

no they aren’t. Not if it takes your wage to below what the minimum wage equivalent would have been

they can mate if you didnt give notice an employer is entitled to withold money to cover costs

[Dezroni]

Its not illegal, they are entitled to deduct money to cover agency driver etc if you fail to give notice. However its a bit shit of them if you have only been there for a week

no they aren’t. Not if it takes your wage to below what the minimum wage equivalent would have been

they can mate if you didnt give notice an employer is entitled to withold money to cover costs

Not if it takes you to below what your wage would have been at minimum wage they aren’t. And even they shouldn’t do it all at once

[Osborney]

no they aren’t. Not if it takes your wage to below what the minimum wage equivalent would have been

they can mate if you didnt give notice an employer is entitled to withold money to cover costs

Not if it takes you to below what your wage would have been at minimum wage they aren’t. And even they shouldn’t do it all at once

your using the same invalid argument over and over mate, I take it your a contract lawyer the way you seem to think you know the law

[Dezroni]

they can mate if you didnt give notice an employer is entitled to withold money to cover costs

Not if it takes you to below what your wage would have been at minimum wage they aren’t. And even they shouldn’t do it all at once

your using the same invalid argument over and over mate, I take it your a contract lawyer the way you seem to think you know the law

Because it’s a fact. And being I’ve won all the tribunals I’ve been a party to, also been a GMB rep for 4 years in my younger years, yes, I’m pretty confident in stating I know what I’m talking about