Can anyone shed any light on this as paying for it ourselves would mean increasing the rate charged. Im in a dispute

[AndryUrman]

Hi, I’m in a dispute with an operator on the basis that they as a company should have software analysis systems in place for us tm’s to use to analyse the data. The operator argues that we the tm’s should provide our own systems or pay for it ourselves.
Can anyone shed any light on this as paying for it ourselves would mean increasing the rate charged.

[DevinTSonn]

how has operator been analysing tachos before you joined

[alundp]

It is their responsibility, the records are theirs, not yours.

[rogerson]

It is their responsibility, the records are theirs, not yours.

as Alundp says, not your responsibility, it is theirs as they are the operator. Simple.. back to them.

[callenwe]

I offer it as a service, I charge 20% on top of the suppliers charge. It's a nice easy earner.

[alundp]

I offer it as a service, I charge 20% on top of the suppliers charge. It's a nice easy earner.

but those records are theirs, what would happen if you dropped dead tomorrow?

[racingMuch]

I offer it as a service, I charge 20% on top of the suppliers charge. It's a nice easy earner.

but those records are theirs, what would happen if you dropped dead tomorrow?

double the price. No way I'm running that cheap if I'm dead.

[BillStill]

I offer it as a service, I charge 20% on top of the suppliers charge. It's a nice easy earner.

but those records are theirs, what would happen if you dropped dead tomorrow?

records are, yes! They can have access to print stuff out.

[alundp]

I offer it as a service, I charge 20% on top of the suppliers charge. It's a nice easy earner.

but those records are theirs, what would happen if you dropped dead tomorrow?

records are, yes! They can have access to print stuff out.

and if you leave you will have the hassle of handing them all over. If they are a new operator get them to use the system of your choice, if they are established then learn to use what they have

[krislou]

I'm exactly like 'callenwe above. I offer it as a service and charge a fee on top of the rate

[incaRida]

Totally agree say no problems then put an extra charge on it

[jaxon]

Guess I would ask how you became TM for company and not have talked this over before agreeing to be the TM?
If they read the guide to be a good operator it will tell them they must control the drivers hours and WTD and keep records for the necessary time for each.

[plaudions]

Are you a Ex TM or internal, I would assume XTMs would have their own analysis system, did you not agree this when you took the job?

[andrewNot]

It is their responsibility and their data that they are legally obliged to analyse.
However if it brings you some extra income then go for it.

[BillStill]

Are you internal or external? As an external, I will only provide my own system to analyse as it is what I want to use.

[hopper]

I guess that's to be sorted between you and the company.
If you, then obviously you need to charge more from reading these comments 20% extra charge seems standard.

[ownenzane]

Is the operator, but is only around 300 a year FFS it must be very tight!

[paunium]

,,,

[carleernGE]

No tm should be paying for the analysis service or software, that is an operational cost to be met by the operator, it's for the TM to effectively manage the downloads and information from the analysis such as infringement reports, in my opinion.