Just been sacked for not working my extra day (overtime) after 7yrs so looking for a job Mansfield/Notts was anybody

Whi1ttendo · Post by **Whi1ttendo** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:30 pm

Mollance-px wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:29 pm
kean-2336 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:25 pm
MasseyA1 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:25 pm

it say if when needed
they might have you on that then still not good
I'd go straight to the tribunal. As and when needed doesn't mean that he must give his life up for a company. If he wasn't available for family reasons or was feeling unwell for example. No one gets to sack a person giving 7 years of their life just because he refused to go in one day, no matter what it says in the contract. Off to the tribunal with you lad.

agreed. An employee being unable to work one day overtime isn't grounds to sack someone. There's due process to consider ie the companies disciplinary procedure and even then if the contract doesn't specify precisely what overtime is required then the company has zero grounds for disciplinary action unless they can prove the employee had consistently refused to do any overtime.

adee+nced · Post by **adee+nced** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:33 pm

Don't bother with Hanson's Tyrington the twat on weigh bridge makes things up an gets u barred for week or 2 to fuc up your pay

thaconymy · Post by **thaconymy** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:33 pm

Unfair dismissal

UnderryJr · Post by **UnderryJr** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:36 pm

They can’t sack you for that dis you receive a warning or anything before for this

potch.2337 · Post by **potch.2337** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:37 pm

You've done your contractual hrs and if your on your weekly rest by law they should not be contacting you contact acas and save your text messages from said company for evidence good luck but shouldn't need it

Brayshi · Post by **Brayshi** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:38 pm

Can't do that mate no your day off theve dropped a bollock there phone acas it's free

neeAkron · Post by **neeAkron** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:40 pm

I've sent you a PM mate

MasseyA1 · Post by **MasseyA1** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:40 pm

neeAkron wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:40 pm I've sent you a PM mate

not got it yet

neeAkron · Post by **neeAkron** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:41 pm

MasseyA1 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:40 pm
neeAkron wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:40 pm I've sent you a PM mate
not got it yet

where were you working?

Baiinno · Post by **Baiinno** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:41 pm

Sorry bud but I don't think you have a case if it's in your contract and you've refused to do it. If you weren't happy with those terms you should have asked for them to be removed when you started. If you've agreed to them, which you have by working and getting paid then unfortunately just chalk it down and move on. Most places will have similar wording though I expect.

MasseyA1 · Post by **MasseyA1** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:42 pm

I I’m trying to read all messages and advice please bear with me

Joee.champ · Post by **Joee.champ** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:44 pm

No warnings or suspensions?

bonnelBox · Post by **bonnelBox** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:48 pm

1. Contact Acas and inform them of your dispute with the employer "Early conciliation"
2. Get a Early Conciliation certificate number from Acas
3. File an ET1 with the tribunal online, YOU HAVE 3 MONTHS LESS 1 DAY TO FILE YOUR ET1......
All the best!!!

hardexerry · Post by **hardexerry** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:52 pm

Firstly it’s illegal so unless you’ve done anything that’s classed as gross misconduct I’d suggest you get after them for unfair dismissal

MasseyA1 · Post by **MasseyA1** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:53 pm

Because what the done I had a beer I promise I will go through the messages tomorrow and thank you all

sedbe · Post by **sedbe** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:56 pm

MasseyA1 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:53 pm Because what the done I had a beer I promise I will go through the messages tomorrow and thank you all

was pears on logbook?

MasseyA1 · Post by **MasseyA1** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:56 pm

sedbe wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:56 pm
MasseyA1 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:53 pm Because what the done I had a beer I promise I will go through the messages tomorrow and thank you all
was pears on logbook?

no taco

RIDDISON · Post by **RIDDISON** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:59 pm

As they said above but work wise we are Mansfield way and my partner works for gist and they have been pretty good with him.

JonatKaptain · Post by **JonatKaptain** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:00 pm

Try Malcolm’s in Wakefield

Howeev · Post by **Howeev** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:00 pm

I’d give them a review on indeed so other drivers steer clear

chivy_one · Post by **chivy_one** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:01 pm

My current boss wanted me to started working every other Saturday, I said over time isn't compulsory, he I know the f**king laws that's fine stand down on Wednesday (without paying)and work Saturday

for basic pay .....

Jamentic · Post by **Jamentic** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:01 pm

chivy_one wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:01 pm My current boss wanted me to started working every other Saturday, I said over time isn't compulsory, he I know the f**king laws that's fine stand down on Wednesday (without paying)and work Saturday for basic pay .....

have to give 12 weeks notice to a change of contact.

anding · Post by **anding** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:02 pm

And if all else fails……have a word with the local crackheads regarding site security

maui_2338 · Post by **maui_2338** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:05 pm

Really... not possible 2024.

Mc_kaycee · Post by **Mc_kaycee** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:07 pm

If that’s the case then what a pile of sh*te getting the “Dan Mack” there’s plenty of other sh*t jobs out there.

good luck

iidrosExpert · Post by **iidrosExpert** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:10 pm

Go get some proper advice on the matter mate. It could be more beneficial to you in the long run than advice from all the would be amateur employment lawyers on this platform. Just a thought.

Mollance-px · Post by **Mollance-px** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:10 pm

iidrosExpert wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:10 pm Go get some proper advice on the matter mate. It could be more beneficial to you in the long run than advice from all the would be amateur employment lawyers on this platform. Just a thought.

exactly

WallRiders · Post by **WallRiders** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:12 pm

Well if the job needs doing and there not asking you to brake the law then the job needs to be done that's a driver in job not 9 till 5 sorry mate

Mccolid · Post by **Mccolid** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:12 pm

WallRiders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:12 pm Well if the job needs doing and there not asking you to brake the law then the job needs to be done that's a driver in job not 9 till 5 sorry mate

what planet you from

Highfalutin · Post by **Highfalutin** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:13 pm

Drive,chill out mate with that many years experience you’ll be fine.yuh might have to jump around a bit but I guarantee you will find something you like & enjoy driving again.Good luck.

tamaxin · Post by **tamaxin** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:14 pm

Haven't J.D.sports got a big distribution centre around Mansfield. Used to in there with yodel..

Moore1ho · Post by **Moore1ho** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:14 pm

tamaxin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:14 pm Haven't J.D.sports got a big distribution centre around Mansfield. Used to in there with yodel..

are you thinking of Sports Direct , at Shirebrooks ?

tamaxin · Post by **tamaxin** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:15 pm

Moore1ho wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:14 pm
tamaxin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:14 pm Haven't J.D.sports got a big distribution centre around Mansfield. Used to in there with yodel..
are you thinking of Sports Direct , at Shirebrooks ?

Yes

SmithMr · Post by **SmithMr** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:15 pm

Look these up mate. Absolutely brilliant. Call them.. ex boss will

himself

mike0syny · Post by **mike0syny** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:16 pm

I'd say, as others, get the advice and support of ACAS.
In my former life (!) I was TM for a Bus Co and there wasn't a week go by that I didn't have to deal with an HR issue.
You've 7 years service, more than 2 yrs and you have more rights.
Sounds that you'd have a good case even as it's likely they've not followed correct procedures. Someone could have done something that may warrant dismissal, however, if correct procedures have not been followed there's still a case for unfair.
I'd keep this a private matter just now. Don't put yourself in a position that they may use any disparaging remarks made on social media against you.
Again, ACAS is 100% the way forward.
Good luck.
Ps. I recently turned down a job offer for a pretty decent, as it seemed, ADR tanks job. There was an expectation to do " your fair share of overtime" How ambiguous is that?

Deepophidz · Post by **Deepophidz** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:17 pm

Acas all the way with that.. overtime is optional

llandoMarq · Post by **llandoMarq** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:19 pm

Let him fire you then take the company to court unfair dismissal win hands down if what your saying is true.

seanrium · Post by **seanrium** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:20 pm

Wat a boss. Name an shame him no such thing as a bad job. Just bad management

earnPaCorp · Post by **earnPaCorp** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:20 pm

Can't sack ya for that bud

johnnoy · Post by **johnnoy** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:21 pm

Citizens advice Soon as possible. You’re not working so it’s free! Good luck hope you get a start soon

skaterca · Post by **skaterca** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:21 pm

7 years. Thats a big payment you are going to get.

NigNimbus · Post by **NigNimbus** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:22 pm

skaterca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:21 pm 7 years. Thats a big payment you are going to get.

sacked no payment

Whi1ttendo · Post by **Whi1ttendo** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:22 pm

It'll take up to two years to go through the tribunal process. That involves solicitors fees. But get onto ACAS, they can advise you whether to take up a case against the company. If yes then go for it, you'll eventually get compensation including costs and more importantly - teach the tossers a valuable lesson..

RussFerdy · Post by **RussFerdy** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:23 pm

Explore are looking for drivers

rhobert-874 · Post by **rhobert-874** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:23 pm

You in union should b take the fuckers to court you cannot b sackex for refusing overtime

Jefferts · Post by **Jefferts** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:24 pm

Well done...till we all start saying no the mad hours and low wages will continue... They done you a favour 48 hours is the normal now ....there lots of jobs for experience drivers ....

Yatesis · Post by **Yatesis** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:24 pm

Linage we're advertising at Bilsthorpe m - f nights

Jamentic · Post by **Jamentic** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:25 pm

Has anyone else been sacked or pressured to leave recently? Just asking because I have seen a place in the past use any excuse to sack people, then replace them on lower wages. Or planning on shutting the company, and don't want as big redundancy bill?

Jamentic · Post by **Jamentic** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:26 pm

On the skips my contract was every other Saturday morning, and if you needed it of, then it was upto us to get another driver to cover. But "a reasonable amount" or "when needed" is a bit vague. And I'm sure there have been some court cases over it.

Baileyor · Post by **Baileyor** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:26 pm

Seek legal advice don't post disrespectful posts against your previous employer they could use this against you at a later date

malcolex · Post by **malcolex** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:27 pm

When one door closes another one opens good luck pal

Burlinte · Post by **Burlinte** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:27 pm

Contact Accas

turday · Post by **turday** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:28 pm

You need to appeal that immediately. You have rights! You only need to 'feel tired' to make an employer question whether to send you out on the road is the safest thing to do. Once you tell them you're tired its on them!! Surely your union has had something to say?? If you're not in a union speak to ACAS or an employment solicitor... be 100% upfront with them.

BankSYneop · Post by **BankSYneop** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:28 pm

Give acas a ring mate.

Jefen2328 · Post by **Jefen2328** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:29 pm

That's transport I'm afraid. been like this since I can remember driving is not like a proper job if you upset the boss your out ,,,, maybe mate he'll calm down and bell ya and apologise especially when he realises that your a good worker.fingers crossed

Dewifenn · Post by **Dewifenn** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:29 pm

If there is no more to this story and you had exceeded your contract hrs, then lodge a complaint with ACAS.
Should pull down some tidy money, say around £10k or more if I remember correctly.

peterzip · Post by **peterzip** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:30 pm

Hope Ur taking legal action

Davoila · Post by **Davoila** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:30 pm

Claim definitely

yvvon · Post by **yvvon** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:31 pm

Disciplinary? Was it classed as gross misconduct? I'd speak to ACAS.

kevin_evan · Post by **kevin_evan** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:32 pm

You can not be sacked for not doing overtime
It's optional not compulsory

andreewt · Post by **andreewt** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:32 pm

So like most people who are saying without looking at the contract it's unclear. However you will still have a case if you have not had a disciplinary procedure carried out regardless of what your Contract Says.
In accordance with Acas Code of Practice or Employment Law the following procedure should have taken place.
1 You sre invited to an Investigation as to why you were unavailable for your shift. There may have been reasons why you could not attend.
At the Investigation it should be explained to you that you could be facing a Disciplinary Hearing.
2. If you are invited to a Disciplinary you have the right to be Accompanied by a work Colleague or Shop Steward. A meeting is set up and a disciplinary takes place. At this meeting you should be told that you may be Dismissed due to Time Keeping quite frankly after your record it's a pretty piss poor excuse. May also be a Breech of Contract.
You also have the right to appeal and this should be done with a different Manager.
Failure to do this and carry out this procedure regardless of what your contract says is classed as Unfair Dismissal which is worth anything from £8000 yo £15000 if they have treated you like this it's worth taking the whole way.
If you are in a Union call them. If not Join the Union and explain what's gone on you get free Solicitors which will fight your case.
Either way it's worth contacting Citizens Advice or better still contact Acas they will give you the best advise and tell you how to proceed.
Hope this helps you get in touch if you need any more help.
Good luck fella.