Does anyone have a list, or the correct knowledge, of which 4X4 Crew Cab Pick-Ups fall within certain weight limits?

[Martynet]

Does anyone have a list, or the correct knowledge, of which 4X4 Crew Cab Pick-Ups fall within certain weight limits? Specifically, those that do NOT require the vehicle to be on the O Licence, when used for towing.
Please note: I'm not asking about the Tachograph. Just the O licence requirements.
I've been trawling manufacturers websites. But, they seem to be quite vague around this area. I'm sure the DVSA would have a list. Is it available? Thanks

[Thielday]

Isuzu DMax is under the threshold.

[Martynet]

Isuzu DMax is under the threshold.

That's the only one I am certain about. But, I hear they are a really bad ride (suspension) when towing a load?

[Thielday]

Isuzu DMax is under the threshold.

That's the only one I am certain about. But, I hear they are a really bad ride (suspension) when towing a load?

if you can load the bed it usually helps.
They have a ton payload and that helps stabilize the combo.

[Martynet]

Isuzu DMax is under the threshold.

That's the only one I am certain about. But, I hear they are a really bad ride (suspension) when towing a load?

if you can load the bed it usually helps.
They have a ton payload and that helps stabilize the combo.

are they a 6 tonne GTW?

[cross-mello]

Isuzu DMax is under the threshold.

air suspension upgrade we supply for them helps tremendously

[mcIdol]

That's the only one I am certain about. But, I hear they are a really bad ride (suspension) when towing a load?

if you can load the bed it usually helps.
They have a ton payload and that helps stabilize the combo.

are they a 6 tonne GTW?

6000kg GTW as standard, which can be upgraded to 7000kg GTW. We used to operate a couple of them towing trailers. They are good workhorses. The suspension isn’t great, but much better with the air suspension upgrade.

[cross-mello]

Isuzu DMax is under the threshold.

That's the only one I am certain about. But, I hear they are a really bad ride (suspension) when towing a load?

if you can load the bed it usually helps.
They have a ton payload and that helps stabilize the combo.

if anything will increase ULW for weight of equipment not a lot though

[cross-mello]

Isuzu DMax is under the threshold.

That's the only one I am certain about. But, I hear they are a really bad ride (suspension) when towing a load?

if you can load the bed it usually helps.
They have a ton payload and that helps stabilize the combo.

when you drive it empty

[lungchu]

As long as gross train weight is over 3.5T, then it is subject to OL, unless exemptions.

[Martynet]

As long as gross train weight is over 3.5T, then it is subject to OL, unless exemptions.

It's the exemptions I am asking about.

[mcIdol]

As long as gross train weight is over 3.5T, then it is subject to OL, unless exemptions.

Under current legislation if the vehicle falls into the dual purpose category and operates in the UK only, then it is exempt from O licence. I have heard rumours of the rules changing shortly to fall into line with EU however, where O licence is required above 2500kg and there is no dual purpose exemption.

[krislou]

so I believe the only current ones are the Dmax and L200. need to be double cab and under 2040kg ULW

[Martynet]

so I believe the only current ones are the Dmax and L200. need to be double cab and under 2040kg ULW

Thanks, Krislou. I know the rule. It's getting the fine detail from the manufacturers that's the difficult bit. I haven't researched the L200.

[jayinn]

so I believe the only current ones are the Dmax and L200. need to be double cab and under 2040kg ULW

Hello, I've read yesterday on the Govt Website that Double Cabs need to be under1,000kgs payload, Now.

[mcIdol]

so I believe the only current ones are the Dmax and L200. need to be double cab and under 2040kg ULW

Hello, I've read yesterday on the Govt Website that Double Cabs need to be under1,000kgs payload, Now.

That is to do with benefit in kind taxation, not O licence

[jamsky]

so I believe the only current ones are the Dmax and L200. need to be double cab and under 2040kg ULW

Hello, I've read yesterday on the Govt Website that Double Cabs need to be under1,000kgs payload, Now.

That is to do with benefit in kind taxation, not O licence

and they have done a u turn on that now I believe

[krislou]

so I believe the only current ones are the Dmax and L200. need to be double cab and under 2040kg ULW

Hello, I've read yesterday on the Govt Website that Double Cabs need to be under1,000kgs payload, Now.

yeah thats for benefit in kind, and they have done a u turn on it.

[jayinn]

so I believe the only current ones are the Dmax and L200. need to be double cab and under 2040kg ULW

Hello, I've read yesterday on the Govt Website that Double Cabs need to be under1,000kgs payload, Now.

That is to do with benefit in kind taxation, not O licence

BIF Then?
Regarding O.L you can pull an all up trailer behind you upto 7,000kgs without O.L. as long as you are Not Transporting Vehicles that could be driven,
And you are Only on Recovery of Brokedown Vehicles.
You also do Not need a Tachograph fitted for same reason, But your Driving Licence should show the C1+E Group entitlement.

[andreenV4]

We use 2 x D-max’s and 2 x Nissan Navara’s. 63 D-Max 500k towing its whole life one clutch replacement and DPF delete. Otherwise faultless.
Nissans very good too.
O Licence only required if traveling into Europe.

[Martynet]

We use 2 x D-max’s and 2 x Nissan Navara’s. 63 D-Max 500k towing its whole life one clutch replacement and DPF delete. Otherwise faultless.
Nissans very good too.
O Licence only required if traveling into Europe.

What is the KSW of the Navara? I was under the impression they were too heavy? Or was there a specific year/model that was within the specs?

[andreenV4]

We use 2 x D-max’s and 2 x Nissan Navara’s. 63 D-Max 500k towing its whole life one clutch replacement and DPF delete. Otherwise faultless.
Nissans very good too.
O Licence only required if traveling into Europe.

What is the KSW of the Navara? I was under the impression they were too heavy? Or was there a specific year/model that was within the specs?

1990kg to 2135kg on the later models

[Martynet]

We use 2 x D-max’s and 2 x Nissan Navara’s. 63 D-Max 500k towing its whole life one clutch replacement and DPF delete. Otherwise faultless.
Nissans very good too.
O Licence only required if traveling into Europe.

What is the KSW of the Navara? I was under the impression they were too heavy? Or was there a specific year/model that was within the specs?

1990kg to 2135kg on the later models

So the later Navara is over the 2040Kg threshold.

[fi7marie]

The government did a U turn yesterday not happening, rules now reverted to April 6th 2022 again

[Martynet]

The government did a U turn yesterday not happening, rules now reverted to April 6th 2022 again

Personal tax allowance and benefit in kind, is not what I'm talking about.

[fi7marie]

The government did a U turn yesterday not happening, rules now reverted to April 6th 2022 again

Personal tax allowance and benefit in kind, is not what I'm talking about.

aah ok