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I have done my ADR for a second time but no company would hire me without PDP. How on earth do you acquire PDP if

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I have done my ADR for a second time but no company would hire me without PDP. How on earth do you acquire PDP if all the training sites only do the theory part of it. Please only those reply who actually know how to get a valid PDP in the UK.
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I'm following this cause ibe just done it for first time and most tanker jobs want 1 to 2 years experience on tankers before they even give you a job
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Unless you have experience of loading/discharging then I wouldn’t bother doing PDP privately. Wait till you get a start and let the company show you properly.
If you walked in off the street and tried to load a tanker in a terminal you wouldn’t know what to do so a good bit of training before the assessment will be required and terminal inductions etc. Also if you acquire a PDP without any experience you’ll be spotted a mile off.
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Adaximi59 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:10 pm Unless you have experience of loading/discharging then I wouldn’t bother doing PDP privately. Wait till you get a start and let the company show you properly.
If you walked in off the street and tried to load a tanker in a terminal you wouldn’t know what to do so a good bit of training before the assessment will be required and terminal inductions etc. Also if you acquire a PDP without any experience you’ll be spotted a mile off.
ok I get that. How does the industry acquire new drivers than. No and I mean no company want to hire me even with 0 points tanker experience 15 years accident free driving... What else do you want?
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:10 pm
Adaximi59 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:10 pm Unless you have experience of loading/discharging then I wouldn’t bother doing PDP privately. Wait till you get a start and let the company show you properly.
If you walked in off the street and tried to load a tanker in a terminal you wouldn’t know what to do so a good bit of training before the assessment will be required and terminal inductions etc. Also if you acquire a PDP without any experience you’ll be spotted a mile off.
ok I get that. How does the industry acquire new drivers than. No and I mean no company want to hire me even with 0 points tanker experience 15 years accident free driving... What else do you want?
where are you based?
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Adaximi59 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:11 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:10 pm
Adaximi59 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:10 pm Unless you have experience of loading/discharging then I wouldn’t bother doing PDP privately. Wait till you get a start and let the company show you properly.
If you walked in off the street and tried to load a tanker in a terminal you wouldn’t know what to do so a good bit of training before the assessment will be required and terminal inductions etc. Also if you acquire a PDP without any experience you’ll be spotted a mile off.
ok I get that. How does the industry acquire new drivers than. No and I mean no company want to hire me even with 0 points tanker experience 15 years accident free driving... What else do you want?
where are you based?
Enfield London
Matthewin
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Post by Matthewin »

Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:11 pm
Adaximi59 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:11 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:10 pm

ok I get that. How does the industry acquire new drivers than. No and I mean no company want to hire me even with 0 points tanker experience 15 years accident free driving... What else do you want?
where are you based?
Enfield London
location could be a factor think about just how many drivers who have the same experience as you or maybe more would be applying for the jobs.
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:11 pm
Adaximi59 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:11 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:10 pm

ok I get that. How does the industry acquire new drivers than. No and I mean no company want to hire me even with 0 points tanker experience 15 years accident free driving... What else do you want?
where are you based?
Enfield London
try ICL out of Greys
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Adaximi59 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:10 pm Unless you have experience of loading/discharging then I wouldn’t bother doing PDP privately. Wait till you get a start and let the company show you properly.
If you walked in off the street and tried to load a tanker in a terminal you wouldn’t know what to do so a good bit of training before the assessment will be required and terminal inductions etc. Also if you acquire a PDP without any experience you’ll be spotted a mile off.
following
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I want to know and this honestly is a serious question
Why did you think if you got an ADR certificate did you think companies would be queuing up to give you a job and if I can add this one on did you really think you were going to make £1500 a week
I’m honestly not having a kick at you
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RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm I want to know and this honestly is a serious question
Why did you think if you got an ADR certificate did you think companies would be queuing up to give you a job and if I can add this one on did you really think you were going to make £1500 a week
I’m honestly not having a kick at you
I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm I want to know and this honestly is a serious question
Why did you think if you got an ADR certificate did you think companies would be queuing up to give you a job and if I can add this one on did you really think you were going to make £1500 a week
I’m honestly not having a kick at you
I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
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RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm I want to know and this honestly is a serious question
Why did you think if you got an ADR certificate did you think companies would be queuing up to give you a job and if I can add this one on did you really think you were going to make £1500 a week
I’m honestly not having a kick at you
I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
I am only talking about job adverts and rates.
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm

I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
I am only talking about job adverts and rates.
some people think you can buy experience🤣🤣 Hey Mr ADR Driver you want PDP??? £1000 per week??
Then Why Ask A social media forum 🤷🤷
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RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm I want to know and this honestly is a serious question
Why did you think if you got an ADR certificate did you think companies would be queuing up to give you a job and if I can add this one on did you really think you were going to make £1500 a week
I’m honestly not having a kick at you
PDP is different to ADR.
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm

I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
I am only talking about job adverts and rates.
He's right mate. I drove tankers out of Grangemouth before contractors took over and it was good, I now earn as much as them driving for a supermarket. The fuel tanker game isn't what it once was
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm

I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
I am only talking about job adverts and rates.
mate I'm adr and last year 64k this year more so ignore those who are drying over their paypacket and I'm not on fuel well ethanol tankers but not fuel tankers
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm I want to know and this honestly is a serious question
Why did you think if you got an ADR certificate did you think companies would be queuing up to give you a job and if I can add this one on did you really think you were going to make £1500 a week
I’m honestly not having a kick at you
I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
Hmmm... If you're going for interviews with that money-oriented attitude, THAT is where your problem lies, not with a lack of PDP.
Gaspher-Jo
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SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:17 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm I want to know and this honestly is a serious question
Why did you think if you got an ADR certificate did you think companies would be queuing up to give you a job and if I can add this one on did you really think you were going to make £1500 a week
I’m honestly not having a kick at you
I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
Hmmm... If you're going for interviews with that money-oriented attitude, THAT is where your problem lies, not with a lack of PDP.
I am not going in for charity but I am working for my money... No accidents, no sickness, no moaning just grinding. I am money orientated because my taxes are ever growing.
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:17 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:17 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm

I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
Hmmm... If you're going for interviews with that money-oriented attitude, THAT is where your problem lies, not with a lack of PDP.
I am not going in for charity but I am working for my money... No accidents, no sickness, no moaning just grinding. I am money orientated because my taxes are ever growing.
Fine, then get used to the sound of potential employers switching off during interviews.
Forget PDP, get some advice on "interview technique"
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SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:18 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:17 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:17 pm

Hmmm... If you're going for interviews with that money-oriented attitude, THAT is where your problem lies, not with a lack of PDP.
I am not going in for charity but I am working for my money... No accidents, no sickness, no moaning just grinding. I am money orientated because my taxes are ever growing.
Fine, then get used to the sound of potential employers switching off during interviews.
Forget PDP, get some advice on "interview technique"
I do not have problems getting a job. They are looking for me... FYI most of the interviews I have attended I have been hired. We are in the HGV drivers forum all of us are looking for a good salary I do not need your tales about "not being money orientated".
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:18 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:18 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:17 pm

I am not going in for charity but I am working for my money... No accidents, no sickness, no moaning just grinding. I am money orientated because my taxes are ever growing.
Fine, then get used to the sound of potential employers switching off during interviews.
Forget PDP, get some advice on "interview technique"
I do not have problems getting a job. They are looking for me... FYI most of the interviews I have attended I have been hired. We are in the HGV drivers forum all of us are looking for a good salary I do not need your tales about "not being money orientated".
FFS... THESE are YOUR words:
"I have done my ADR for a second time but no company would hire me without PDP. "
That does not sound like someone who could honestly say "I do not have problems getting a job. They are looking for me"
Maybe people who are equally as unimpressed with your approach to work as I am are simply using the PDP issue as a way to end the interview.
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SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:19 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:18 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:18 pm

Fine, then get used to the sound of potential employers switching off during interviews.
Forget PDP, get some advice on "interview technique"
I do not have problems getting a job. They are looking for me... FYI most of the interviews I have attended I have been hired. We are in the HGV drivers forum all of us are looking for a good salary I do not need your tales about "not being money orientated".
FFS... THESE are YOUR words:
"I have done my ADR for a second time but no company would hire me without PDP. "
That does not sound like someone who could honestly say "I do not have problems getting a job. They are looking for me"
Maybe people who are equally as unimpressed with your approach to work as I am are simply using the PDP issue as a way to end the interview.
because I want to get into the industry. I have been a full timer since I was 18... I only leave a job if the new one is lined up. Yes I get daily requests to come to work... WTF are we talking about?
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:19 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:19 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:18 pm

I do not have problems getting a job. They are looking for me... FYI most of the interviews I have attended I have been hired. We are in the HGV drivers forum all of us are looking for a good salary I do not need your tales about "not being money orientated".
FFS... THESE are YOUR words:
"I have done my ADR for a second time but no company would hire me without PDP. "
That does not sound like someone who could honestly say "I do not have problems getting a job. They are looking for me"
Maybe people who are equally as unimpressed with your approach to work as I am are simply using the PDP issue as a way to end the interview.
because I want to get into the industry. I have been a full timer since I was 18... I only leave a job if the new one is lined up. Yes I get daily requests to come to work... WTF are we talking about?
It should be very clear what we're talking about: Passing the attitude test with an employer.
"Daily requests to come to work..." ?
That says "agency driver", some employers are averse to agency drivers, who sometimes have a very poor reputation.
"I want to get into the industry." first obvious question from a potential employer is: "Why?"
If all you have to say for yourself is that you want to do this kind of work so you can (in your opinion "expect to") "clear £1000 per week", that tells the TM "I'm only interested in the money"
A TM recruiting for fuel tanker work will have seen this a million times before and will be looking for a different attitude in their interview candidates, so their thoughts will naturally be: "Send in the next candidate please..."
And... bear in mind that employers and TMs etc read these forum, so you could already be "marking your card" with every post you make.
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SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:20 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:19 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:19 pm

FFS... THESE are YOUR words:
"I have done my ADR for a second time but no company would hire me without PDP. "
That does not sound like someone who could honestly say "I do not have problems getting a job. They are looking for me"
Maybe people who are equally as unimpressed with your approach to work as I am are simply using the PDP issue as a way to end the interview.
because I want to get into the industry. I have been a full timer since I was 18... I only leave a job if the new one is lined up. Yes I get daily requests to come to work... WTF are we talking about?
It should be very clear what we're talking about: Passing the attitude test with an employer.
"Daily requests to come to work..." ?
That says "agency driver", some employers are averse to agency drivers, who sometimes have a very poor reputation.
"I want to get into the industry." first obvious question from a potential employer is: "Why?"
If all you have to say for yourself is that you want to do this kind of work so you can (in your opinion "expect to") "clear £1000 per week", that tells the TM "I'm only interested in the money"
A TM recruiting for fuel tanker work will have seen this a million times before and will be looking for a different attitude in their interview candidates, so their thoughts will naturally be: "Send in the next candidate please..."
And... bear in mind that employers and TMs etc read these forum, so you could already be "marking your card" with every post you make.
What a waste of time this is. I did not ask for interview advice... Talking BS. Every single person on this forum is working for money... Even if you are talking rubbish. There are people already telling me where to go for PDP going to give them a call tomorrow. All talks I know your kind. My hard-work gets me into any job. That's all it matters. Yes I am working for money. And about the agency driver or not it is still a job I am being called for.
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:21 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:20 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:19 pm

because I want to get into the industry. I have been a full timer since I was 18... I only leave a job if the new one is lined up. Yes I get daily requests to come to work... WTF are we talking about?
It should be very clear what we're talking about: Passing the attitude test with an employer.
"Daily requests to come to work..." ?
That says "agency driver", some employers are averse to agency drivers, who sometimes have a very poor reputation.
"I want to get into the industry." first obvious question from a potential employer is: "Why?"
If all you have to say for yourself is that you want to do this kind of work so you can (in your opinion "expect to") "clear £1000 per week", that tells the TM "I'm only interested in the money"
A TM recruiting for fuel tanker work will have seen this a million times before and will be looking for a different attitude in their interview candidates, so their thoughts will naturally be: "Send in the next candidate please..."
And... bear in mind that employers and TMs etc read these forum, so you could already be "marking your card" with every post you make.
What a waste of time this is. I did not ask for interview advice... Talking BS. Every single person on this forum is working for money... Even if you are talking rubbish. There are people already telling me where to go for PDP going to give them a call tomorrow. All talks I know your kind. My hard-work gets me into any job. That's all it matters. Yes I am working for money. And about the agency driver or not it is still a job I am being called for.
Yes we all work for money, but we don't make it the number one thing that people remember about us.
1) You've already been told by at least one other person that you won't get PDP training without a job,
2) You've already said no-one will take you on without a PDP,
3) At least one other person has already said that even if you could somehow get a PDP, without the experience to go with it, it will count for nothing.
We DGSAs (if you don't know what that is, you'll find it in your ADR handbook) only want the right kind of driver looking after vehicles loaded with dangerous goods, and the "I'm only in it for the money" types are NOT the kind of driver we're looking for.
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:21 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:20 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:19 pm

because I want to get into the industry. I have been a full timer since I was 18... I only leave a job if the new one is lined up. Yes I get daily requests to come to work... WTF are we talking about?
It should be very clear what we're talking about: Passing the attitude test with an employer.
"Daily requests to come to work..." ?
That says "agency driver", some employers are averse to agency drivers, who sometimes have a very poor reputation.
"I want to get into the industry." first obvious question from a potential employer is: "Why?"
If all you have to say for yourself is that you want to do this kind of work so you can (in your opinion "expect to") "clear £1000 per week", that tells the TM "I'm only interested in the money"
A TM recruiting for fuel tanker work will have seen this a million times before and will be looking for a different attitude in their interview candidates, so their thoughts will naturally be: "Send in the next candidate please..."
And... bear in mind that employers and TMs etc read these forum, so you could already be "marking your card" with every post you make.
What a waste of time this is. I did not ask for interview advice... Talking BS. Every single person on this forum is working for money... Even if you are talking rubbish. There are people already telling me where to go for PDP going to give them a call tomorrow. All talks I know your kind. My hard-work gets me into any job. That's all it matters. Yes I am working for money. And about the agency driver or not it is still a job I am being called for.
can I just ask how long you’ve been driving normal artics for and was it like 5 outta 7 or 4 on 4 of or tramping? I fancied the tankers when I took my class 1 as I’ve been on the tippers over 10yrs and even the trainer said get some experience first and meet ppl who may be able to help get you in then look for the qualifications 🤷‍♂️ I’m only a year in on the artics and I gotta say I literally learn something totally new almost every single night 🤔
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ARRONIK wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:23 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:21 pm
SteveTuch wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:20 pm

It should be very clear what we're talking about: Passing the attitude test with an employer.
"Daily requests to come to work..." ?
That says "agency driver", some employers are averse to agency drivers, who sometimes have a very poor reputation.
"I want to get into the industry." first obvious question from a potential employer is: "Why?"
If all you have to say for yourself is that you want to do this kind of work so you can (in your opinion "expect to") "clear £1000 per week", that tells the TM "I'm only interested in the money"
A TM recruiting for fuel tanker work will have seen this a million times before and will be looking for a different attitude in their interview candidates, so their thoughts will naturally be: "Send in the next candidate please..."
And... bear in mind that employers and TMs etc read these forum, so you could already be "marking your card" with every post you make.
What a waste of time this is. I did not ask for interview advice... Talking BS. Every single person on this forum is working for money... Even if you are talking rubbish. There are people already telling me where to go for PDP going to give them a call tomorrow. All talks I know your kind. My hard-work gets me into any job. That's all it matters. Yes I am working for money. And about the agency driver or not it is still a job I am being called for.
can I just ask how long you’ve been driving normal artics for and was it like 5 outta 7 or 4 on 4 of or tramping? I fancied the tankers when I took my class 1 as I’ve been on the tippers over 10yrs and even the trainer said get some experience first and meet ppl who may be able to help get you in then look for the qualifications 🤷‍♂️ I’m only a year in on the artics and I gotta say I literally learn something totally new almost every single night 🤔
over 15 years now.
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:24 pm
ARRONIK wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:23 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:21 pm

What a waste of time this is. I did not ask for interview advice... Talking BS. Every single person on this forum is working for money... Even if you are talking rubbish. There are people already telling me where to go for PDP going to give them a call tomorrow. All talks I know your kind. My hard-work gets me into any job. That's all it matters. Yes I am working for money. And about the agency driver or not it is still a job I am being called for.
can I just ask how long you’ve been driving normal artics for and was it like 5 outta 7 or 4 on 4 of or tramping? I fancied the tankers when I took my class 1 as I’ve been on the tippers over 10yrs and even the trainer said get some experience first and meet ppl who may be able to help get you in then look for the qualifications 🤷‍♂️ I’m only a year in on the artics and I gotta say I literally learn something totally new almost every single night 🤔
over 15 years now.
damn bro so your more than ready on skill level at least. Maybe forum like this trying to make a contact to get you an interview at least. Maybe find local companies and emailing them saying you love the company and have this qualification what would you need to do to get an interview at least? Good luck bro you’ve got a big advantage over a lot of drivers looking for the same thing you just need a dab of luck 🍀
Gaspher-Jo
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Post by Gaspher-Jo »

ARRONIK wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:29 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:24 pm
ARRONIK wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:23 pm

can I just ask how long you’ve been driving normal artics for and was it like 5 outta 7 or 4 on 4 of or tramping? I fancied the tankers when I took my class 1 as I’ve been on the tippers over 10yrs and even the trainer said get some experience first and meet ppl who may be able to help get you in then look for the qualifications 🤷‍♂️ I’m only a year in on the artics and I gotta say I literally learn something totally new almost every single night 🤔
over 15 years now.
damn bro so your more than ready on skill level at least. Maybe forum like this trying to make a contact to get you an interview at least. Maybe find local companies and emailing them saying you love the company and have this qualification what would you need to do to get an interview at least? Good luck bro you’ve got a big advantage over a lot of drivers looking for the same thing you just need a dab of luck 🍀
Thanks very much.
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm

I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
I am only talking about job adverts and rates.
I’m sorry to piss on your parade but think about it
You’ve paid a load of money to get a bit of paper that thousands of people with experience all ready have
Now if you were an employer would you take on an experienced ADR driver or someone who knows nothing
You should have spent your money on hiab Moffat stgo anything but adr no
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Post by andyki »

RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:30 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm

Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
I am only talking about job adverts and rates.
I’m sorry to piss on your parade but think about it
You’ve paid a load of money to get a bit of paper that thousands of people with experience all ready have
Now if you were an employer would you take on an experienced ADR driver or someone who knows nothing
You should have spent your money on hiab Moffat stgo anything but adr no
we take on new adr and also train those without and we have 370 drivers so you're not pissing on his parade many companies do the same pal
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RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:30 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm

Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
I am only talking about job adverts and rates.
I’m sorry to piss on your parade but think about it
You’ve paid a load of money to get a bit of paper that thousands of people with experience all ready have
Now if you were an employer would you take on an experienced ADR driver or someone who knows nothing
You should have spent your money on hiab Moffat stgo anything but adr no
I disagree on several counts:
1) ADR doesn't have to cost shedloads of money, we do standard + tanks for £500 and that gets you 28 hours of DCPC, so subtract the costs of doing DCPC and what remains is the cost of the ADR, less than £300
2) STGO is not about a paper qualification, getting into that kind of work depends on demonstrable safe driving skills and presenting at the interview with the right attitude (our ADR friend I suspect struggles with his interview technique because he's too money oriented)
3) Both Moffett and HIAB are ALL about the EXPERIENCE and being able to do the job in challenging conditions. These two (especially HIAB) are far less dependent on a paper qualification.
4) Apart from fuel tankers, the vast bulk of ADR work is simple "packages" work with curtainsiders, and does not need a vast amount of experience.
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Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm

I have paid all the relevant training myself I have never waited for a company to pay for my training. I am not the sort of person " I wait until they pay for mine" with that attitude I would not get anywhere. Probably that's why I have the most experience I could get in the job. Yeah I believe with regular 4 on 4 off I would clear a 1000.
Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
I am only talking about job adverts and rates.
job adverts lie my friend and so do drivers on this site
Here’s the truth ADR gas/aviation fuel out of Grangemouth £790 for 42 hours worked 5 over 7 and that’s from someone who’s done it so you tell me who’s paying £1000 in the bank and I’ll be in front of you
And by the way I’ve held a full ADR for 22 years
Adaximi59
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Post by Adaximi59 »

RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:32 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm

Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
I am only talking about job adverts and rates.
job adverts lie my friend and so do drivers on this site
Here’s the truth ADR gas/aviation fuel out of Grangemouth £790 for 42 hours worked 5 over 7 and that’s from someone who’s done it so you tell me who’s paying £1000 in the bank and I’ll be in front of you
And by the way I’ve held a full ADR for 22 years
stop talking sh**e pal.
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Post by johnet »

RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:32 pm
Gaspher-Jo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm
RelRolando wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:14 pm

Oh and clear £1000 a week
I’ve had an ADR 16 years and I don’t make £1000 BEFORE tax and NI a week
I’m really not wanting to piss you of but stop believing the bullshit you read on this sh**
I am only talking about job adverts and rates.
job adverts lie my friend and so do drivers on this site
Here’s the truth ADR gas/aviation fuel out of Grangemouth £790 for 42 hours worked 5 over 7 and that’s from someone who’s done it so you tell me who’s paying £1000 in the bank and I’ll be in front of you
And by the way I’ve held a full ADR for 22 years
ICL but to earn that you are doing 6 on and 2 off
davidun
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Post by davidun »

Little loophole may be to do a bit of research on what firms local do heating oil but also derv/petroleum,
take the heating oil job if available That may not require PDP if they have another driver to do terminal runs to fill bunker on site to service the other oil drivers ,
Then worm your way in to getting your PDP and terminal introductions with them
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Need to find 1 of the big company's who put you through pdp and train you
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There are 2 parts to the PDP. First part can be done in a classroom but the second is a practical and has to be done on site at a refinery. Having access to a truck and refinery makes it difficult for the majority of ADR training providers. Your best bet would be gaining your PDP and training through one of the large fuel companies such as Hoyer that will take on inexperienced drivers and train them up
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Newts Oils Ltd in Ellesmere Port used to provide full PDP training, only place I ever found but that was 2020 when I was looking.
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My mates just got a job with hoyer, he's getting 4 weeks training and his pdp off them
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allents wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:34 pm My mates just got a job with hoyer, he's getting 4 weeks training and his pdp off them
I thought Hoyer had gone.
There trucks seem to have change to Oxy something down my way
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Post by michaero »

kelvinne wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:35 pm
allents wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:34 pm My mates just got a job with hoyer, he's getting 4 weeks training and his pdp off them
I thought Hoyer had gone.
There trucks seem to have change to Oxy something down my way
same company different name
davidun
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kelvinne wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:35 pm
allents wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:34 pm My mates just got a job with hoyer, he's getting 4 weeks training and his pdp off them
I thought Hoyer had gone.
There trucks seem to have change to Oxy something down my way
Oxalis
Websetin773
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Post by Websetin773 »

Try Martyn Clark at Bedfordshire fuels. He advertised lately. Able to do adr and pdp training.
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You can't get a PDP without a job.
Allisonix
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Core Drivers Ltd speak to these guys they can help get you on fuel on PDP
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Post by Robertines »

The only way you will get your pdp is if a fuel company take you on and train you up for the job . And as for taking home £1000 plus yes it’s possible on fuel but you need to get on certain contracts and that will be impossible if you’re new to the fuel sector . Your adr these days is a waste of money it makes no difference in hourly rates in most parts of the uk
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Post by mark4elloq »

The problem you have is pdp is in 2 parts practical and theory. The practical side you demonstrate off loading and loading safely, without being with a company this could prove difficult. You could try approaching Tanker companies and offer to pay your pdp if they will train you for the theory
MalColmmad
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I thought you could only get the PDP via on the job training.
noblewa
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Wouldn't bother, only way in is through subbies and the rates are shi**
SteveTuch
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You ONLY need PDP if you have to enter a refinery, you should have been told that during the Tanks module of your ADR. So the only people who are likely to refuse you are fuel tanker companies who do actually run into a refinery. Try applying for non - fuel tanker jobs, or if going for that kind of work, ask if they can arrange the theory and practical training for you - half a day in the classroom, with a test, plus about one full day of practical training, with some other form of testing.
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