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GreatGordom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:35 am
How do you stay legal with 65hrs a week
‘working time’ and ‘break/POA’
if he doesn't know he shouldn't be driving
in all fairness not all of us work for companies who push you to the hilt so there’s no real need to know loopholes and shortcuts to remain legal. I can’t remember the last time I worked 45 hours for instance.
in all fairness not all of us work for companies who push you to the hilt so there’s no real need to know loopholes and shortcuts to remain legal. I can’t remember the last time I worked 45 hours for instance.
exactly, I would be looking for pay from end of weekly rest to start of next weekly rest at those rates, gotta be a whined up no?
in all fairness not all of us work for companies who push you to the hilt so there’s no real need to know loopholes and shortcuts to remain legal. I can’t remember the last time I worked 45 hours for instance.
GreatGordom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:35 am
How do you stay legal with 65hrs a week
The times of breaks, rests and periods of availability shall not be included in the calculation of working time.
think you will find if your doing 3 x 15 hour shifts breaks are included, you can do 84 hours but its illegal to do 2 weeks on the run however you look at it
GreatGordom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:35 am
How do you stay legal with 65hrs a week
The times of breaks, rests and periods of availability shall not be included in the calculation of working time.
think you will find if your doing 3 x 15 hour shifts breaks are included, you can do 84 hours but its illegal to do 2 weeks on the run however you look at it
breaks are not included in calculation of working time
The times of breaks, rests and periods of availability shall not be included in the calculation of working time.
think you will find if your doing 3 x 15 hour shifts breaks are included, you can do 84 hours but its illegal to do 2 weeks on the run however you look at it
breaks are not included in calculation of working time
you show me how you can do a 15 hour shift legal without ya break included
think you will find if your doing 3 x 15 hour shifts breaks are included, you can do 84 hours but its illegal to do 2 weeks on the run however you look at it
breaks are not included in calculation of working time
you show me how you can do a 15 hour shift legal without ya break included
you’ve misunderstood it obviously. Try reading what I provided
i understand it im a driver trainer that teaches tacho
well god help those under your supervision. I’ve provided you with evidence to support what I’m saying
as i said show me how you can do a 15 hour shift without breaks included
it’s not a 15 shift without breaks ffs.
BREAKS are not INCLUDED in the calculation of working time.
For example
15 hr less 45 mins break is 14.25
I really can’t make it any simpler
well god help those under your supervision. I’ve provided you with evidence to support what I’m saying
as i said show me how you can do a 15 hour shift without breaks included
it’s not a 15 shift without breaks ffs.
BREAKS are not INCLUDED in the calculation of working time.
For example
15 hr less 45 mins break is 14.25
I really can’t make it any simpler
why can you work a 15 hour shift 3 times a week, rest must be included as its not possible other wise you noob
as i said show me how you can do a 15 hour shift without breaks included
it’s not a 15 shift without breaks ffs.
BREAKS are not INCLUDED in the calculation of working time.
For example
15 hr less 45 mins break is 14.25
I really can’t make it any simpler
why can you work a 15 hour shift 3 times a week, rest must be included as its not possible other wise you noob
ffs are you intoxicated?
Firstly no mention of 15 hrs in the regulations only rest periods.
Reduced daily rests (15) are between weekly rest periods not per week.
If you want help refrain from the immature insults
as i said show me how you can do a 15 hour shift without breaks included
it’s not a 15 shift without breaks ffs.
BREAKS are not INCLUDED in the calculation of working time.
For example
15 hr less 45 mins break is 14.25
I really can’t make it any simpler
why can you work a 15 hour shift 3 times a week, rest must be included as its not possible other wise you noob
as i said show me how you can do a 15 hour shift without breaks included
it’s not a 15 shift without breaks ffs.
BREAKS are not INCLUDED in the calculation of working time.
For example
15 hr less 45 mins break is 14.25
I really can’t make it any simpler
why can you work a 15 hour shift 3 times a week, rest must be included as its not possible other wise you noob
as i said show me how you can do a 15 hour shift without breaks included
it’s not a 15 shift without breaks ffs.
BREAKS are not INCLUDED in the calculation of working time.
For example
15 hr less 45 mins break is 14.25
I really can’t make it any simpler
why can you work a 15 hour shift 3 times a week, rest must be included as its not possible other wise you noob
I once did a shift that was 14hrs 45 minutes long. Within that shift I did less than 6hrs in total of working time, with more than 9hrs of it being POA. I legally required zero break in that 14hr 45 minute shift. Are you saying that the entire 14hrs 45 minutes should have been added to my working time for that week?
it’s not a 15 shift without breaks ffs.
BREAKS are not INCLUDED in the calculation of working time.
For example
15 hr less 45 mins break is 14.25
I really can’t make it any simpler
why can you work a 15 hour shift 3 times a week, rest must be included as its not possible other wise you noob
it’s not a 15 shift without breaks ffs.
BREAKS are not INCLUDED in the calculation of working time.
For example
15 hr less 45 mins break is 14.25
I really can’t make it any simpler
why can you work a 15 hour shift 3 times a week, rest must be included as its not possible other wise you noob
I once did a shift that was 14hrs 45 minutes long. Within that shift I did less than 6hrs in total of working time, with more than 9hrs of it being POA. I legally required zero break in that 14hr 45 minute shift. Are you saying that the entire 14hrs 45 minutes should have been added to my working time for that week?
did not say that poa if used correctly can help, however if your driving doing a job and you clock up 15 hour shift tachomaster at 15 hour 1 min will give you an infringement with break included
it’s not a 15 shift without breaks ffs.
BREAKS are not INCLUDED in the calculation of working time.
For example
15 hr less 45 mins break is 14.25
I really can’t make it any simpler
why can you work a 15 hour shift 3 times a week, rest must be included as its not possible other wise you noob
ffs are you intoxicated?
Firstly no mention of 15 hrs in the regulations only rest periods.
Reduced daily rests (15) are between weekly rest periods not per week.
If you want help refrain from the immature insults
why can you work a 15 hour shift 3 times a week, rest must be included as its not possible other wise you noob
ffs are you intoxicated?
Firstly no mention of 15 hrs in the regulations only rest periods.
Reduced daily rests (15) are between weekly rest periods not per week.
If you want help refrain from the immature insults
ffs are you intoxicated?
Firstly no mention of 15 hrs in the regulations only rest periods.
Reduced daily rests (15) are between weekly rest periods not per week.
If you want help refrain from the immature insults
the break is part of the 15 hr day however it gets deducted from that to calculate wtd
How you ever managed to fool Bodens to become a driver trainer is outrageous
the break is part of the 15 hr day however it gets deducted from that to calculate wtd
How you ever managed to fool Bodens to become a driver trainer is outrageous
you still haven't answered how you can do a 15 hour day, i will rephrase it for you. You put your tacho card in at 0200 when must you take it out without using poa ???
the break is part of the 15 hr day however it gets deducted from that to calculate wtd
How you ever managed to fool Bodens to become a driver trainer is outrageous
you still haven't answered how you can do a 15 hour day, i will rephrase it for you. You put your tacho card in at 0200 when must you take it out without using poa ???
are you still under the influence?
When did I ever mention poa?
A half decent trainer wouldn’t mention 15 hr days only rest periods as no mention of it in gv 262 or ec 561/2006.
I wouldn’t be driving for £11 I’d rather be in McDonald’s and i ain’t taking pi££ either
Big Mac meal and a large vanilla shake when you're ready please
there’s a million jobs you can do for minimum wage no way would I be dealing with the amount of clowns on the road and no knowing when I’ll be home for £11. Each to their own but I wouldn’t do it
LAUIONO wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:22 pm
Annualized 48 - 51k sounds good then you see 11.50
Why not average that out over the hours instead of two different rates.
to make you do the hours , its always been the golden carrot . hgv jobs of 8 to 10 hours are few n far between in my experience
LAUIONO wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:22 pm
Annualized 48 - 51k sounds good then you see 11.50
Why not average that out over the hours instead of two different rates.
to make you do the hours , its always been the golden carrot . hgv jobs of 8 to 10 hours are few n far between in my experience
you can still write hours into a contract, 60 hours for 50k would be better imo. Works out around £16 p/h
LAUIONO wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:22 pm
Annualized 48 - 51k sounds good then you see 11.50
Why not average that out over the hours instead of two different rates.
to make you do the hours , its always been the golden carrot . hgv jobs of 8 to 10 hours are few n far between in my experience
you can still write hours into a contract, 60 hours for 50k would be better imo. Works out around £16 p/h
true . crafty move all round. im losing the love for it all Lauiono. in my 34th year , we saw a spike in money when demand was high now we all getting expoited again
LAUIONO wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:22 pm
Annualized 48 - 51k sounds good then you see 11.50
Why not average that out over the hours instead of two different rates.
but those figures are for a 60hr week. That's why the industry panicked over the 48hr WTD week and started the driver shortage myth and ruled that we in Britain could voluntarily opt out. We have shot ourselves in the foot!!
Maximum 60 hour working week, so how can you be doing 65 hours a week? And it's 48-51k a year, but you're basically killing yourself for it!! If you were doing more like 40-50 hours a week it'd be more like 42ishk a year - not quite the headline 48-51k a year.
No doubt those interested ONLY in the pay will be falling over themselves to apply though.
The rates just are not there for trucks guys drivers want big money but there is no big rates in order to support the wages. This is way companies are closing the doors faster then you can put up post about the pay offered. With the way it is going we will all be working for the likes of culina and as soon as they have control the pay will go right down.
Jonesin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:31 pm
The rates just are not there for trucks guys drivers want big money but there is no big rates in order to support the wages. This is way companies are closing the doors faster then you can put up post about the pay offered. With the way it is going we will all be working for the likes of culina and as soon as they have control the pay will go right down.
not really. Because 1 mass walk out on strike will cripple them.
